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Originally Posted by Frosty
I really don't like Hillary though.
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She's not exactly a cuddly personality, but on the other hand, too much importance is attached to likeability in politicians. She's highly intelligent, she's capable, she's reasonably experienced, and she has a history of at least giving something of a shit about flagrant inequality, whether of wealth or respect or access to medicine.
Anyway, apparently she can be pretty charming when it's required to build bridges or get her way, she's worked well with Republicans in the senate. Plus, she'll have Bill... everybody loves Bill, apart from all the people who'd love to kill him.
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Does America really want another potentially 8 years of the Clintons? The idea of two families dominating the White House for up to 28 years doesn't fill me with joy.
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I admit that's not ideal. But I'd rather see a good president there than not see a dynastic succession. And I'd rather see a Clinton dynastic succession than a Republican non-dynastic succession.
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Originally Posted by spinoza
Welfare reform
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True. But a lot of people on the left agreed that it had to be done, welfare was bloated and out of date, and reforming it hasn't increased poverty, even if you can't prove it's decreased it.
And I'm not claiming the Clinton administration was pure of heart or very left-wing... it was a centrist administration. In US politics these days, that means pretty radical.