Originally Posted by cw1984

Agree on the Rooney thing. Especially for England. He can do it for us because he will have 3 or 4 players busting their balls to get up with him. He'd probably be better suited for England playing in one of the wider positions or not at all.....

Hargreaves was good last night but i think it was pointless him playing. If we're going to have 2 holding midfield players someone like Hargreaves (all about the tackling) was unecessary IMO. Carrick+Barry would have been better. 2 players to win the ball and both have great passing ability. If you're going to have just the 1 holding then great, stick Hargo in. But when there's 2 holding having Hargo was pointless IMO.

Also something you didnt point out. John Terry is nothing more than an average player IMO. I dont rate him 1 bit. For me England CB pecking order should go something like:

Rio, Woodgate, King and then the likes of Terry, Brown etc to fight it out for the 4th spot.