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Old 27th March 2008, 13:50   #525 (permalink)
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They can and they do. With practice. You're getting the whole thing arse-ways round. Your God-given talent defines your starting point, not how good you can go on to become.
No way. Your God given talent is your default state. A limitation. You can never do things beyond your talent. All one can do however is master the art of utilising it. Which is where it becomes a starting point. On the road to acquiring skills. Which in terms of talent is commonly called the road to maturity. No one can ever get better at a talent. That is impossible. But with practice one can learn to maximise its use and effect.
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If we could somehow stop players aging, they would get better and better and better, the longer their career goes on. But we can't so they eventually reach a peak and start to decline.
That's obvious.

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Every single player who has ever played football has improved every aspect of his game, through practise and the natural procesa of maturing into an adult. It beggars belief that you are still trying to argue the toss about this
Rather what beggers belief is you're calling someone improving skills to better utilise talent "improving on natural talent".

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Mentioning footballers like Pirlo and Beckham is just obfuscation in the worst way.
Rather trying to deny what such players clearly represent is just obfuscation in the worst way.

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Every single fecking footballer who has ever kicked a ball was a better player aged 25 than they were aged 18. In every single aspect of their game and every single skill they possess. Why do you think this is?
Because they improved/mastered their skills. Which in turn helped enhance their ability to utilize their natural talents! Surely, this can't be too hard to understand or disputable.

You act as if you've never seen people with bags of talent who have done next to nothing with it like Recoba. As compared to less naturally talented individuals like Beckham. All because of who acquired more skills than the other
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