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Originally Posted by topper
unfortunately Spinoza this has/is being tried and not successfully and reports (not in the Daily Mail) have pointed out that there are now examples of people re entering the UK after leaving for another bite of the incentive cherry. Incentives for an illegal immigrant to leave is not the answer but stronger border controls and sea patrols are the best option - if not perfect . You may not stop the flow completely this way but you can reduce it substantially and demonstrate to the locals that something is being done.
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The solution isn't to stop the flow, it's to create a two-way flow. Closing borders incentivises immigrants to stay. Opening borders lets them come and go as they please - going being the bit that most people would like of course, without realising that closing borders prevents people from going as well as coming. I'm pretty sure I've explained this several times in various threads.
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Originally Posted by topper
At this point in time - and not living in the UK so its hearsay- friends and family members tell me that there is a perception (right or wrong) that illegals found are not ejected quickly enough, that rewards for leaving are wrong and that border controls are inept.
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I agree that illegal immigration needs to be reduced. The solution isn't to crack down on immigration per se, and anyway the methods employed to reduce illegal immigration are not all that effective.
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Originally Posted by iguanamanc
How do you work that out? Most countries or communities such as the EEC have immigration controls of some sort to prevent people from doing precisely that.
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All countries and communities in the EEC officially welcome immigration as a means of filling skill deficits in their economy. Quite often this is lost in a wave of irrational fear, xenophobia or discontent.
Anyway, what I was annoyed about was that your post implied that people have no right to choose where to do what they want to do. Anyone in the world has the right to live and work where they wish, as long as they abide by whatever laws are put into place. And once they gain the right to influence those laws, they have every right to exercise it.