Originally Posted by spinoza

The solution isn't to stop the flow, it's to create a two-way flow. Closing borders incentivises immigrants to stay. Opening borders lets them come and go as they please - going being the bit that most people would like of course, without realising that closing borders prevents people from going as well as coming. I'm pretty sure I've explained this several times in various threads.


I agree that illegal immigration needs to be reduced. The solution isn't to crack down on immigration per se, and anyway the methods employed to reduce illegal immigration are not all that effective.



All countries and communities in the EEC officially welcome immigration as a means of filling skill deficits in their economy. Quite often this is lost in a wave of irrational fear, xenophobia or discontent.

Anyway, what I was annoyed about was that your post implied that people have no right to choose where to do what they want to do. Anyone in the world has the right to live and work where they wish, as long as they abide by whatever laws are put into place. And once they gain the right to influence those laws, they have every right to exercise it.