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Originally Posted by iguanamanc
Those are excellent attributes to have and use in their own country of origin.
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Originally Posted by spinoza
And it's their right to use them where they wish, as long as they don't break any laws.
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Originally Posted by iguanamanc
How do you work that out? Most countries or communities such as the EEC have immigration controls of some sort to prevent people from doing precisely that.
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Originally Posted by iguanamanc
I've done business trips that require visas, but have not worked outside the UK longer term. But what you are saying is exactly what I have said - you still require permission from many other countries to work there, it is not an automatic right.
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I took issue with your initial post, which seems to say that immigrants shouldn't emigrate while they can use their skills in their own country. It's purely their choice where they want to use their skills, subject to rules and regulations. I do think that certain people (myself for instance) should be allowed to work and live anywhere, but the irrationality of the rest of the world is preventing this from happening.
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Originally Posted by iguanamanc
The issue was brought up because it is 40 years since that speech, and that milestone was reported in the media. A Gallup Poll taken straight after his speech in 1968 indicated that almost 75% of those interviewed agreed with his views. Mine was not an isolated reaction to it. This was at a time, rightly or wrongly, that TV programmes such as Till Death Us Do Part and Love Thy Neighbour were amongst the most watched form of "light entertainment". That era was quite different, and your views for example would have been in a smaller minority than they are now.
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Well, your reaction to it seems not to have changed. Which is, as I pointed out, silly at best, because Powell's speech is clearly racist, economically illiterate, outdated and a terrible basis for policy. Entertaining rhetoric I suppose, if you go in for such things.
So if the speech was rubbish, why bring it up? The issues surrounding immigration are far more complex than Powell grasped. In fact, the vast majority of people in the UK haven't a clue what's going on, yet almost everyone has a (usually silly) opinion on it.