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Old 2nd May 2008, 11:21   #24 (permalink)
spinoza
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Can a country be called a democracy when the premiership is handed down from one family member to another?

Bushes, Clintons, Kennedys.
Yes, because there was a vote. Remember Bush only narrowly won in 2000.

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Why must democracy work for everyone? If their current system works for them and the people aren't complaining or revolting I don't think the western world have a right to say anything.
Not only as Brian says are they complaining, but if you remember there was a near revolt back in 1989. Remember Tiananmen? The Chinese haven't forgotten, neither the CCP or the people. Chinese people take a long view, and right now, partly because of Tiananmen, they have a new social contract, property rights and private sector activity. That will do for now. Maybe in 50 years time it won't.

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AFAIK the only ones to get chucked in jail are the political ones who have an agenda. It depends on how you complain really, if you send suggestions thats fine. If you try to "change" like Obama then could be viewed as a seperatist.
You try suggesting something and see if your suggestion gets taken on board in China.
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Generally speaking, most of them just want a decent lifestyle, they just want food on the table and to get by. Tey love the socialist system, love working for their goals; family, home mortgage, buy a car, travel to Europe. If the Communist government can provide a fair competition and give everyone a chance, they are more than happy to oblige. Pronewbie has a point when he says not everyone has to live like Americans, or have rights like Americans.
They don't "love" the socialist system. They can live with it for now. There's a difference. Besides, it's not even really socialist anymore.
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