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Old 29th May 2008, 05:45   #87 (permalink)
devilish
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Brown isn't a better tackler than Pique. He isn't a better Leader, neither is his positioning better. Anyone who watched him in La Liga and has watched Brown through out his United stay can see this clearly.What Brown is, is much faster and more experienced. That is why he is better. Nothing else.It's the same with Park. He crosses better than Dos santos, has better work rate, makes better decisions, defends better, doesn't ran into blind alleys when dribbling as often all because he is far more experienced. That makes him better. Period. Only if Dos santos was a mature player like Messi was at 18 woud you have a point. But he isn't that way at all. Experience matters every where. Park has the technique of a decent winger and has the experience too. Dos Santos as a player isn't even close to him ATM. And at a club like United talent alone wont get you a start. You need experience too.Yeah right. A winger is judged mainly on creative end porduct, link up play with the other team members and decision making. Not goals. Do santos' over rall link up play is very average, his end product is erratic at best and his decision making is still poor. All he does best is score goals ATM. Basically Park shits on him as a winger right now. Because Giovanni is too raw. Thus he can't be a better player than Park. This is blatantly obviousPark is not there to win a first team place. He is there to be a quality squad player. In addtion, as I said before we are more than capable of having Park, Dos Santos, Nani and Ronaldo in the same team. But you would rather have a 34-35 year old Giggs on our wing instead of Park. Because you clearly rate him little. Because he has more talent and if I was a manager I'd rate talent above experience. That is why I wanted to keep Pique and let Brown leave. This is something you already know very well.. . So what? You are no different.
Wes is a better defender then Pique. If that wasnt the case then SAF would have sold Wes and kept the Spaniard. I cannot understand why you rate Wes so poorly. I mean we are talking here about a player (a first teamer in a team capable of making the golden double) with more then 200 appearances with us and more then 17 caps with England. How can you ever compare him with Pique?

I do rate Park. He is a good utility player but he is not first team level. On the other hand Dos Santos has potential to become better then that. Regarding Giggs I apologise for still having faith in a player who will be remembered as one of the best wingers football had ever had. SAF tend to do that same mistake.

Experience is crucial for a goalkeeper and a defender, because you do one mistake in that role and you are fecked. The flank role is different, you are judged on the chances you create and your ability to score goals, in fact both Ronaldo and Giggs won a place when they were very young.

I still cannot understand how you can say that Dos Santos is still inferior to Park but you would still play Park ahead of him.

PS I had just told you that you're right on part of your post.
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