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Originally Posted by devilish
Wes is a better defender then Pique. If that wasn't the case then SAF would have sold Wes and kept the Spaniard.
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Fergie kept Wes because he is way more experienced and almost as talented. & Fergie felt that was too good to lose. Fair dues to him. That is beyond obvious. It had zero to do with Pique being worse than Brown.
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I cannot understand why you rate Wes so poorly.
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I rate him poorly? Yous re about that Devlish? Especially when I didn't want a player of his ability and talent to be wasted as mere back up on our bench & believed Pique was better suited to that role? And you did and still do think brown is fantastic for a mere bench role for us (which is what he is getting by staying)? and I rate him less than you?
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Originally Posted by devilish
I mean we are talking here about a player (a first teamer in a team capable of making the golden double) with more then 200 appearances with us and more then 17 caps with England. How can you ever compare him with Pique?
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Because he has no business, with all those things you mentioned, being finally over his injury problems, coming into the peak years of his career, being just back up to Rio, Vidic and who ever we bring in at fullback, on our bench. Pique who is just as talented but far less experienced was better suited for the role of back up.
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Originally Posted by devilish
I do rate Park. He is a good utility player but he is not first team level. On the other hand Dos Santos has potential to become better then that. Regarding Giggs I apologise for still having faith in a player who will be remembered as one of the best wingers football had ever had. SAF tend to do that same mistake.
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First off, you can 't rate Park and then claim Dos Santos a totally raw teenage no where near first team level, is a better player than him right now. Sorry, but that is not poosible.
Secondly Fergie hasn't made your "mistake" at all!. Of late he hasn't been using Giggs out wide but more centrally. & the up turn in the great mans performances has justified this particular tactic. & my statements on Giggs' role change all the more.
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Experience is crucial for a goalkeeper and a defender, because you do one mistake in that role and you are fecked. The flank role is different, you are judged on the chances you create and your ability to score goals, in fact both Ronaldo and Giggs won a place when they were very young.
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Neither of them won it based on criteria with goals scored. It was for their ability to link up play and create chances plus to find space for the rest of the team to operate. Dos Santos in terms of that is not close to Park at all. As a big fan of Dos Santos I'm under no illusions about this. Dos Santos isn't better than Park yet. Not by a long shot. Especially when you add experience into it
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still cannot understand how you can say that Dos Santos is still inferior to Park but you would still play Park ahead of him.
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Because you are either just stubborn or you don't bother to read what I post properly. I already said if
I was United manager start Gio ahead of Park
because I rate talent above experience. Because I feel talent always matures faster when given game opportunity. If you can't understand that then the problem lies with you, dude.
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PS I had just told you that you're right on part of your post.
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I am aware. That was duly acknowledged