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AhmedDimwitson · 8th April 2002, 19:10

[quote]Originally posted by passiveman:
<strong>Eh? Is the thrust of this response to imply that Western economies are suffering in terms of growth because of their commitment to provide for those without work?

Perhaps it is designed to suggest that the only people who don't work are Muslim immigrants, who are therefore directly culpable for any difficulties the Western economies are suffering from...

Or was it your intention to belittle the legitimacy of the anti-Israeli protests by implying that no Westerners are involved?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, the westerners involved are the unemployed communists who have nothing better to do than protest. Like Gothenburg last year when these destroyed a city, these communists were interviewed and asked what they were angry at, they didn't know, they were protesting against everything. These protests get legitimacy when working people like myself get involved and not this professional protestors who are everywhere and who no-one listens to.

You have to wonder what the muslim community are thinking, muslims from Indonesia to Marocco are spending the entire day protesting and burning flags, the next thing their government do is hand in a request for money to the world bank and wonder why the hell their country ain't producing anything.

The answer to their problem is that you use the resources you have and make it work, like in real life. You have the choice to educate yourself and get a decent job or be unemployed living on welfare ultimatelly provided by those who work. And there is something fundamentally wrong with society when we are importing unemployed people who do not even try to intgrate. Take Finland as an example of success, in the 50s they had a huge debt to pay to Sovjet, they payed it and gradually they have developed their economy from scratch to being voted most competitive in the world. All through hard work and usage of the limited resources available. These underdeveloped countries could follow the same example if they would do some work. But it's ultimately a cultural thing and it won't happen.

So in short in my previous post I did indeed question the legitimacy of the protests and necessarity of them.

8th April 2002, 19:10	#66 (permalink)
AhmedDimwitson The Expert Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: FI Posts: 5,159	[quote]Originally posted by passiveman: <strong>Eh? Is the thrust of this response to imply that Western economies are suffering in terms of growth because of their commitment to provide for those without work? Perhaps it is designed to suggest that the only people who don't work are Muslim immigrants, who are therefore directly culpable for any difficulties the Western economies are suffering from... Or was it your intention to belittle the legitimacy of the anti-Israeli protests by implying that no Westerners are involved?</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, the westerners involved are the unemployed communists who have nothing better to do than protest. Like Gothenburg last year when these destroyed a city, these communists were interviewed and asked what they were angry at, they didn't know, they were protesting against everything. These protests get legitimacy when working people like myself get involved and not this professional protestors who are everywhere and who no-one listens to. You have to wonder what the muslim community are thinking, muslims from Indonesia to Marocco are spending the entire day protesting and burning flags, the next thing their government do is hand in a request for money to the world bank and wonder why the hell their country ain't producing anything. The answer to their problem is that you use the resources you have and make it work, like in real life. You have the choice to educate yourself and get a decent job or be unemployed living on welfare ultimatelly provided by those who work. And there is something fundamentally wrong with society when we are importing unemployed people who do not even try to intgrate. Take Finland as an example of success, in the 50s they had a huge debt to pay to Sovjet, they payed it and gradually they have developed their economy from scratch to being voted most competitive in the world. All through hard work and usage of the limited resources available. These underdeveloped countries could follow the same example if they would do some work. But it's ultimately a cultural thing and it won't happen. So in short in my previous post I did indeed question the legitimacy of the protests and necessarity of them.