Originally Posted by Count Duckula

I could understand being annoyed at Beckham's inclusion, but you can't honestly expect an England manager to drop Gerrard and Lampard? Who would you play instead? Carrick and Hargreaves no doubt.

Gerrard and Lampard are two of the stand-out central midfielders in our league, and maybe in the world. They're the lynchpins of their successful clubs and to not include them in the national team is ridiculous.

The reason England play shite football and go out of tournaments "early" all the time is because, shockingly, they're shite. Not because of players being "picked on reputation".