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Old 8th November 2009, 13:52   #161 (permalink)
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Ugh no Berbatov? I would've thought he'd be just right for this game, we need someone to hold the ball up.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:01   #162 (permalink)
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Berbatov hasn't travelled and wont play.
I've just heard this on TalkSPORT.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:08   #163 (permalink)
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Only Rooney up top, or Owen to start?
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:11   #164 (permalink)
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van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia Rooney Giggs

Guess it's this then...
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:13   #165 (permalink)
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van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia Rooney Giggs

Guess it's this then...
thats a good solid side with good attacking/defending balance

come on lads!!!
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:15   #166 (permalink)
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Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:19   #167 (permalink)
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Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson
if we're talking medals on the table, our lads kick the shit out of theirs.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:24   #168 (permalink)
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Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson
What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Vidic and Evans - oh yea that shite defensive partnership that broke clean sheet records last season, and Vidic who's kept Drogba quiet nearly every time he's faced him - what a donkey.

Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson, that awful midfield trio that absolutely destroyed Arsenal in the CL last season.

With such shite players on our team, no wonder everyone's got such an inferiority complex.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:26   #169 (permalink)
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if we're talking medals on the table, our lads kick the shit out of theirs.
you sure about that? Can't be assed working it out but it must be pretty close.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:27   #170 (permalink)
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What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Vidic and Evans - oh yea that shite defensive partnership that broke clean sheet records last season, and Vidic who's kept Drogba quiet nearly every time he's faced him - what a donkey.

Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson, that awful midfield trio that absolutely destroyed Arsenal in the CL last season.

With such shite players on our team, no wonder everyone's got such an inferiority complex.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:27   #171 (permalink)
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Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson
7 League winners medals, 10 FA Cup medals v

12 League winners medals, 5 Champions League medals and one FA Cup Medal

Last edited by SharkyMcShark; 8th November 2009 at 14:30. Reason: I thought Ashley Cole for Cole cos im an idiot
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:29   #172 (permalink)
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:29   #173 (permalink)
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I reckon our best chance of really getting at them is trying to expose Ivanovic like we did in the Community Shield. Evra and whoever starts on the left are going to be really important.

Valencia has a tough job too with keeping Cole quiet.

Given developments about the squad i'm now pretty certain it will be:

VDS
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia ---------- Giggs
Rooney
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:30   #174 (permalink)
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4. Evans didnt won the CL
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:31   #176 (permalink)
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That's a balls if it's true that Berbatov hasn't traveled.

I like the line up listed above, I really don't think Scholes should start, he hasn't got the legs to deal with that Chelsea midfield.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:33   #177 (permalink)
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4. Evans didnt won the CL
that's true but then sharky didn't count his championship winners medal either the bastard.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:34   #178 (permalink)
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:50   #180 (permalink)
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We're hearing Berbatov is out. Not fully sure if it's true yet, though.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:53   #181 (permalink)
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No Berbatov would suck.
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Old 8th November 2009, 14:55   #182 (permalink)
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Can't see him starting anyway, and Owen would have more impact off the bench IMO.
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:03   #183 (permalink)
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7 League winners medals, 10 FA Cup medals v

12 League winners medals, 5 Champions League medals and one FA Cup Medal
actually, i think anelka and ashley cole would have medals from their time at arsenal but then we also have league cup winners medals.

the point i was trying to make was that of these sets of players, it's ours who have won the last 3 titles whilst getting a european cup winners medal whilst also reaching an extra final.

on paper, chelseas team sounds stronger but then it has done for the last few years and yet we've generally been alright.

on paper. shevchenko was a better player than saha and ballack a better player than carrick. i know which two i'm glad we had.


* ignore the ashley cole bit, confused myself like a twat
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:08   #184 (permalink)
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Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans
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if we're talking medals on the table, our lads kick the shit out of theirs.
Right I got bored.

EPL 8
FAC 11
LC 7
CL 1
Turkish League 1
German League 4
Geman Cup 3
German LC 1
French League 1

v

EPL 12
Championship 1
LC 4
Yugoslav cup 1
Serb League 1
CL 4
FAC 1
Brazil Serie b 1
Portugal League 2
Portugal cup 1

total: Chelsea 37 v 28 united (although chelsea had an extra player)
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:12   #185 (permalink)
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Right I got bored.

EPL 8
FAC 11
LC 7
CL 1
Turkish League 1
German League 4
Geman Cup 3
German LC 1
French League 1

v

EPL 12
Championship 1
LC 4
Yugoslav cup 1
Serb League 1
CL 4
FAC 1
Brazil Serie b 1
Portugal League 2
Portugal cup 1

total: Chelsea 37 v 28 united (although chelsea had an extra player)
Isn't it like comparing apple with oranges, also the average age of chelsea player should be in 30s, and ours is in the mid 20s
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:18   #186 (permalink)
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I cannot see Giggs starting, he hasn't played in a few games and to chuck him back in against Chelsea isn't a great idea.

If Berba is fit..

Van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia Fletcher Anderson Nani
Berbatov Rooney

If not then....

Van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia Rooney Nani
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:20   #187 (permalink)
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A great bet....Rooney to score ANYTIME & do the "bebeto(baby)" celebration 4/1 via P Powers!
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:20   #188 (permalink)
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i'd still rather have our medal haul.

i was trying to make the point that of the two squads over the last three years (comparing the same set of midfielders in particular) we had been pretty successful.

carrick and anderson have won the league in each of their seasons and fletcher has only been a first team pick over the last couple of seasons.

vidic has won the league in each of his full seasons and evans won it in his first last year.

i made the point in another thread that i think people see names like deco and ballack and immediately rank them better than players like carrick and fletcher just because of who they are and not what they bring to the team.

i'm not disputing chelsea should be favourites today just confused that a lot of united fans haven't learnt it's not reputation but performance that matters and hence we aren't as likely to be pulverised as some people are making out.

also, on the medals front, that'd look very different if we took anderson out and put giggs in
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Isn't it like comparing apple with oranges, also the average age of chelsea player should be in 30s, and ours is in the mid 20s
Of course you're correct but I wasn't using it as a benchmark to prove anything I was just interested in seeing if what DA said was true really.
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Rooney will definitely be playing as the lone man upfront, which is very annoying, but lets lay down a marker today, come on united!
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--------------- Van der Sar --------------
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--- O'Shea --- Vidic --- Evans --- Evra--
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---- Valencia -- Fletcher -- Anderson ---
------------------ Giggs -----------------
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------------ Owen -- Rooney ------------

1-0, Fletcher.
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:48   #192 (permalink)
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Rooney will definitely be playing as the lone man upfront, which is very annoying, but lets lay down a marker today, come on united!
Why?

Last time he did that against Chelsea he scored.
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Old 8th November 2009, 15:51   #193 (permalink)
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No Berbs?!!!

I hope he plays Nani, Rooney, Valenica up top... Might be a blessing... If Berbs was fit Fergie probably would have played 4-4-2
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Didn't know where to post it. The french Channel Canal + that has the tv rights of the Premier League is broadcasting the game on its website. I don't know if that will be working abroad though.

Chelsea/Manchester United - 12ème journée de Premier League en direct - Foot Canal+, le meilleur du foot

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Old 8th November 2009, 16:00   #195 (permalink)
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Why?

Last time he did that against Chelsea he scored.
yeah but you can see its not his natural position. If he does start in that role i fully expect valencia to start aswell
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Old 8th November 2009, 16:00   #196 (permalink)
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One thing to look out for is Chelsea (Ballack in particular) diving for freekicks on the edge of the box. They seem to have decided they won't get the fakes called inside the box but will if it's not a pen.
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Didn't know where to post it. The french Channel Canal + that has the tv rights of the Premier League is broadcasting the game on its website. I don't know if that will be working abroad though.

Chelsea/Manchester United - 12ème journée de Premier League en direct - Foot Canal+, le meilleur du foot

Thats only for people in france mate.
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