Liverpool vs. Manchester United

kps88 · 27th January 2012, 15:51

Those are always meaningless.

acrebo · 27th January 2012, 15:52

Knowing how Liverpool have become the ultimate "game-raising poor team" recently, they'll give us a real battle tomorrow.

I'll be happy with a draw to be honest, although we could do with nicking it 1-0 just to avoid another fixture.

Bellamy will be tired after his exploits mid-week and Gerrard, for all his good form recently, still looks like he's struggling for match fitness. They're two players that would most love to beat us though so they'll be up for it.

As said, this game isn't going to suit Scholes. Giggs fairs better as he has very quick feet still and knows how to find space. Giggs, Carrick and A.N.Other in the middle with Welbeck up front on his own. If Nani was fit then I guess we'd put Park in the middle but I imagine he'll have to play LW.

Maybe Park in the middle, Welbeck to the left and Berbs / Hernandez up front?

SharkyMcShark · 27th January 2012, 15:58

If we're doing a three man midfield then we don't have the bodies to play anyone but Park in there at the moment as the third man with Carrick and Giggs (unless he's going to give Pogba a first start, away at Anfield, in a knockout game).

Man-United · 27th January 2012, 16:00

Everyone 100% sure that Evra till play tomorrow?

kps88 · 27th January 2012, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man-United

Everyone 100% sure that Evra till play tomorrow?

Yep. He was great against Arsenal. Only other option is Fabio who probably won't last the 90 anyway, meaning bringing on Evra.

Kelvin · 27th January 2012, 16:12

tbh I hope our players stay clear of injuries for once although given its liverpool I am not holding my breath, this cunts always play the games of their lives against us.

Leroy The Red · 27th January 2012, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemanja15

Reported matchday squad for this game:

de Gea, Lindegaard, Amos
Evra, Jones, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Fabio, Rafael, Fryers
Giggs, Park, Carrick, Nani, Young, Scholes, Valencia, Pogba, Cole
Berbatov, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Diouf

Jones, Ferdinand, Nani, Young, Rooney are all out.
Where are you getting that false info from?

cw1984 · 27th January 2012, 17:57

^^ Where have you heard it confirmed those players are out?

prateik · 27th January 2012, 17:58

Who says Ferdinand is out?

Northstand · 27th January 2012, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man-United

Everyone 100% sure that Evra till play tomorrow?

Assuming he's fit, he has to. I strongly felt when the draw was made that Fergie would leave him out, but we're on the bare bones as it is, so I'd be surprised if he doesn't play now.

KM · 27th January 2012, 18:09

We'll defeat them.

pocco · 27th January 2012, 18:22

These matchday squads are never right, especially whe we're only playing down the road. You can only trust them on European games when the matchday squads are reported by people within the club that happen to be sat on the plane with the matchday squad.

Kelvin · 27th January 2012, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leroy The Red

Jones, Ferdinand, Nani, Young, Rooney are all out.
Where are you getting that false info from?

fergie have not rule anyone out yet........of course I think some will be touch and go for this.

Red Dreams · 27th January 2012, 18:34

we are limping there...

I'd be happy to get a draw and bring them back to Old Trafford.

Jippy · 27th January 2012, 18:40

Sorry, dunno if it's already been posted but just heard Martin Atkinson has pulled out injured.
Best piece of news I've heard all day...

Leroy The Red · 27th January 2012, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

^^ Where have you heard it confirmed those players are out?

My mate is mates wit........

Just most papers and news pages. Reputable ones too who usually get it right.
Apparently wayne hasn't trained all week.
As far as the rest I thought it was common knowledge they were out.

I hope i'm wrong though and i'll be in here quoting myself at 12 tomorrow pointing and laughing.

Red Dreams · 27th January 2012, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jippy

Sorry, dunno if it's already been posted but just heard Martin Atkinson has pulled out injured.
Best piece of news I've heard all day...

now that would be a good break for us

Jippy · 27th January 2012, 19:00

From the BBC's footie gossip column

Referee Martin Atkinson will definitely miss the game, after pulling out because of illness. It is now almost 11 months since Atkinson took charge of a Manchester United game, after he was fiercely criticised by Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 2-1 defeat by Chelsea.
Full story: the Times (subsciption required)

Red Norse · 27th January 2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jippy

From the BBC's footie gossip column

Referee Martin Atkinson will definitely miss the game, after pulling out because of illness. It is now almost 11 months since Atkinson took charge of a Manchester United game, after he was fiercely criticised by Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 2-1 defeat by Chelsea.
Full story: the Times (subsciption required)

Oh dear, this will really fan the fire at RAWK

We'll miss Vidic at Anfield, if their game vs City is any to go by there'll be a lot of driven long balls into the box (with more hope than meaning, still have to be cleared).

Bryan_Munich · 27th January 2012, 19:18

I wasn't that impressed with them the other night, they play percentage football with little flair. Bellamy was the only one with any imagination in my view.

I'm expecting Dalglish to play Carroll from the start and try to beat us with pressure football, relying heavily on the crowd to force mistakes.

I've a feeling Fergie will play Scholes and Hernandez from the start.

Sean_RedDevil · 27th January 2012, 19:20

Quote:

Andrew Kilduff (Tufty) twitter
Ferdinand, Jones, Rooney, Nani, Carrick, Evra, Fabio are all in the United squad for tomorrow.

Amos, Fryers, Cole and Diouf also in named squad. Pogba not mentioned, but still expect him to travel.

..

Bryan_Munich · 27th January 2012, 19:21

Is Tufty on the coaching staff?

Sally Cinnamon · 27th January 2012, 19:21

Just out of interest, how would Tufty know?

Plan M · 27th January 2012, 19:22

It's gonna take forever for this game to arrive

Red Norse · 27th January 2012, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

I wasn't that impressed with them the other night, they play percentage football with little flair. Bellamy was the only one with any imagination in my view.

I'm expecting Dalglish to play Carroll from the start and try to beat us with pressure football, relying heavily on the crowd to force mistakes.

I've a feeling Fergie will play Scholes and Hernandez from the start.

Neither was impressive IMO, but we've often folded to direct pressure, Vidic would gobble those balls all day (that sounded weird), with our injuries I'm a bit apprehensive about tomorrow. Is Rio confirmed fit?

Bryan_Munich · 27th January 2012, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Norse

Neither was impressive IMO, but we've often folded to direct pressure, Vidic would gobble those balls all day (that sounded weird), with our injuries I'm a bit apprehensive about tomorrow. Is Rio confirmed fit?

Fergie's keeping his cards close to his chest.

Scots Crusader · 27th January 2012, 20:12

I would go with Smalling at the back as he seems happiest under the high ball with Vida out. Carrick alongside Giggs in middle with Park as the leg man. Valencia and Wellbeck wide with Berba as a lone striker to give him a run.

DDG in goal.

As for the game, we will need to be patient. They will get in our faces from the off, need to ride through that and get possession of the ball and take the sting out of thier players and the crowd. If we can do that and not concede early I think we win. If they get up a head of steam with an early goal, might be a long day for us.

Scots Prediction:- 2-1 to United

KingCantona87 · 27th January 2012, 20:54

Here is my hope for tomorrow.

I want a similar situation (like in 06/07) where they were battering us for nigh on 90 or so minutes and they don't get the chance to go ahead.

Then in the 93rd minute I want Evra to make a surging run into the penalty area (Kop End) and be chopped down by a Liverpool player.

Then Evra blasts it into the roof of the net! If only.....

King_Eric · 27th January 2012, 21:12

Tufty was the one who came with the 'Nani out for 2 months' rumour yesterday, no?

Doesn't seem the most reliable source for this kind of news.

acrebo · 27th January 2012, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scots Crusader

DDG in goal.

With Carroll likely to start, I'd be worried about DDG under aerial threat to be honest. Lindegaard is more commanding in the box and deals with crosses better.

Neo_Mufc · 27th January 2012, 22:03

Just remembered that we have to suffer several minutes of Adrian Chiles before the game.

Jippy · 27th January 2012, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Norse

Neither was impressive IMO, but we've often folded to direct pressure, Vidic would gobble those balls all day (that sounded weird), with our injuries I'm a bit apprehensive about tomorrow. Is Rio confirmed fit?

Smalling was cool dealing with aerial balls against Arsenal- granted it was Arsenal, but it's not as if Carroll is bang on form (famous last words).

mufcwarm92 · 27th January 2012, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_Mufc

Just remembered that we have to suffer several minutes of Adrian Chiles before the game.

Or several minutes of Stanley Park..

lysglimt · 27th January 2012, 22:53

Interesting stats about Mark Halsey

Prior to his leukemia - he was a fairly strict referee dishing out redcards left and right - after he recovered he has shown 1 red card in the league in 1.5 season.

Also worth mentioning - if my info is correct - we haven't lost with Halsey as ref since Southampton beat us 1-0 back in 2003. Was that the match when Beattie grabbed the winner ?

Pexbo · 27th January 2012, 22:58

Gotta get up at 6.45 to watch this one.... I feel for the reds abroad on here now. Good news is that its the second to last day of my holiday so I would be spending some serious brownie points if it was to interfere with our plans.

I´m predicting a match winning performance from Rooney though. He was sheltered by Ferguson in this fixture before after his poor form and torrent of abuse he recieves in it. Being a little under the radar thanks to Evra could see him come to life a little. Buzzing for this game though!

EricaNo7 · 27th January 2012, 23:00

It's their Universe Cup Final tomorrow, not just world. Tbh I'm dreading it

IanDangerously · 27th January 2012, 23:03

Tufty knows nothing, as is usually the case!

Going to the game tomorrow now, buzzing. Hope we smash these horrible scouse bastards into next week. Evra winner too much to wish for?

Skywarden · 27th January 2012, 23:11

Tony V and Carrick to continue their fantastic forms and put us through to the next round.

RK · 27th January 2012, 23:16

I don't think Rooney will start.

I think there'll be a very early goal, I think for us.

I don't know who I think will win.

Bookies have none of the results as odds-on favourite, but Liverpool edge us in the odds for a win.

Colin129 · 27th January 2012, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanDangerously

Tufty knows nothing, as is usually the case!

Going to the game tomorrow now, buzzing. Hope we smash these horrible scouse bastards into next week. Evra winner too much to wish for?

I think he's scored 3 goals since joining us and only 9 overall since 1998, he's not going to score...

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27th January 2012, 15:51	#161 (permalink)
kps88 First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7,517	Those are always meaningless.

27th January 2012, 15:52	#162 (permalink)
acrebo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 2,686	Knowing how Liverpool have become the ultimate "game-raising poor team" recently, they'll give us a real battle tomorrow. I'll be happy with a draw to be honest, although we could do with nicking it 1-0 just to avoid another fixture. Bellamy will be tired after his exploits mid-week and Gerrard, for all his good form recently, still looks like he's struggling for match fitness. They're two players that would most love to beat us though so they'll be up for it. As said, this game isn't going to suit Scholes. Giggs fairs better as he has very quick feet still and knows how to find space. Giggs, Carrick and A.N.Other in the middle with Welbeck up front on his own. If Nani was fit then I guess we'd put Park in the middle but I imagine he'll have to play LW. Maybe Park in the middle, Welbeck to the left and Berbs / Hernandez up front?

27th January 2012, 15:58	#163 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,060	If we're doing a three man midfield then we don't have the bodies to play anyone but Park in there at the moment as the third man with Carrick and Giggs (unless he's going to give Pogba a first start, away at Anfield, in a knockout game).

27th January 2012, 16:00	#164 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,183	Everyone 100% sure that Evra till play tomorrow?

27th January 2012, 16:12	#166 (permalink)
Kelvin Worst Poster 2011 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 20,735	tbh I hope our players stay clear of injuries for once although given its liverpool I am not holding my breath, this cunts always play the games of their lives against us.

27th January 2012, 17:57	#168 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: at work, probably. Posts: 21,926	^^ Where have you heard it confirmed those players are out?

27th January 2012, 17:58	#169 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,617	Who says Ferdinand is out?

27th January 2012, 18:09	#171 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delhi... Posts: 13,072	We'll defeat them.

27th January 2012, 18:22	#172 (permalink)
pocco Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,882	These matchday squads are never right, especially whe we're only playing down the road. You can only trust them on European games when the matchday squads are reported by people within the club that happen to be sat on the plane with the matchday squad.

27th January 2012, 18:34	#174 (permalink)
Red Dreams First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thunder Road to Old Trafford Posts: 22,409	we are limping there... I'd be happy to get a draw and bring them back to Old Trafford.

27th January 2012, 18:40	#175 (permalink)
Jippy Sleeps with tramps. If you've got the cardboard he'll bring the heat Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In Neville's Laa Laa Land Posts: 3,695	Sorry, dunno if it's already been posted but just heard Martin Atkinson has pulled out injured. Best piece of news I've heard all day...

27th January 2012, 19:00	#178 (permalink)
Jippy Sleeps with tramps. If you've got the cardboard he'll bring the heat Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In Neville's Laa Laa Land Posts: 3,695	From the BBC's footie gossip column Referee Martin Atkinson will definitely miss the game, after pulling out because of illness. It is now almost 11 months since Atkinson took charge of a Manchester United game, after he was fiercely criticised by Sir Alex Ferguson after United's 2-1 defeat by Chelsea. Full story: the Times (subsciption required)

27th January 2012, 19:18	#180 (permalink)
Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,452	I wasn't that impressed with them the other night, they play percentage football with little flair. Bellamy was the only one with any imagination in my view. I'm expecting Dalglish to play Carroll from the start and try to beat us with pressure football, relying heavily on the crowd to force mistakes. I've a feeling Fergie will play Scholes and Hernandez from the start.

27th January 2012, 19:21	#182 (permalink)
Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,452	Is Tufty on the coaching staff?

27th January 2012, 19:21	#183 (permalink)
Sally Cinnamon Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: we're just floating in space over molten rock. Posts: 4,932	Just out of interest, how would Tufty know?

27th January 2012, 19:22	#184 (permalink)
Plan M First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★ ★ ★ Posts: 9,357	It's gonna take forever for this game to arrive

27th January 2012, 20:12	#187 (permalink)
Scots Crusader Youth Team Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Heid up ma arse!! Posts: 205	I would go with Smalling at the back as he seems happiest under the high ball with Vida out. Carrick alongside Giggs in middle with Park as the leg man. Valencia and Wellbeck wide with Berba as a lone striker to give him a run. DDG in goal. As for the game, we will need to be patient. They will get in our faces from the off, need to ride through that and get possession of the ball and take the sting out of thier players and the crowd. If we can do that and not concede early I think we win. If they get up a head of steam with an early goal, might be a long day for us. Scots Prediction:- 2-1 to United

27th January 2012, 20:54	#188 (permalink)
KingCantona87 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Diamonds are for EVRA Posts: 800	Here is my hope for tomorrow. I want a similar situation (like in 06/07) where they were battering us for nigh on 90 or so minutes and they don't get the chance to go ahead. Then in the 93rd minute I want Evra to make a surging run into the penalty area (Kop End) and be chopped down by a Liverpool player. Then Evra blasts it into the roof of the net! If only.....

27th January 2012, 21:12	#189 (permalink)
King_Eric Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bruges Posts: 1,295	Tufty was the one who came with the 'Nani out for 2 months' rumour yesterday, no? Doesn't seem the most reliable source for this kind of news.

27th January 2012, 22:03	#191 (permalink)
Neo_Mufc Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Matrix Posts: 4,811	Just remembered that we have to suffer several minutes of Adrian Chiles before the game.

27th January 2012, 22:53	#194 (permalink)
lysglimt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,361	Interesting stats about Mark Halsey Prior to his leukemia - he was a fairly strict referee dishing out redcards left and right - after he recovered he has shown 1 red card in the league in 1.5 season. Also worth mentioning - if my info is correct - we haven't lost with Halsey as ref since Southampton beat us 1-0 back in 2003. Was that the match when Beattie grabbed the winner ?

27th January 2012, 22:58	#195 (permalink)
Pexbo He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: T'Internet Posts: 6,667	Gotta get up at 6.45 to watch this one.... I feel for the reds abroad on here now. Good news is that its the second to last day of my holiday so I would be spending some serious brownie points if it was to interfere with our plans. I´m predicting a match winning performance from Rooney though. He was sheltered by Ferguson in this fixture before after his poor form and torrent of abuse he recieves in it. Being a little under the radar thanks to Evra could see him come to life a little. Buzzing for this game though!

27th January 2012, 23:00	#196 (permalink)
EricaNo7 Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: more right wing than andrei kanchelskis Posts: 16,152	It's their Universe Cup Final tomorrow, not just world. Tbh I'm dreading it

27th January 2012, 23:03	#197 (permalink)
IanDangerously Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heaton Chapel, Gtr Manchester Posts: 4,300	Tufty knows nothing, as is usually the case! Going to the game tomorrow now, buzzing. Hope we smash these horrible scouse bastards into next week. Evra winner too much to wish for?

27th January 2012, 23:11	#198 (permalink)
Skywarden Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lurking on the periphery of my vision Posts: 3,539	Tony V and Carrick to continue their fantastic forms and put us through to the next round.

27th January 2012, 23:16	#199 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13,478	I don't think Rooney will start. I think there'll be a very early goal, I think for us. I don't know who I think will win. Bookies have none of the results as odds-on favourite, but Liverpool edge us in the odds for a win.