Manchester United v Aston Villa

The Azzurri · 14th April 2012, 17:41

how should we approach the game? Try to score as many as possible to close the gap on gd?

Feed Me · 14th April 2012, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Azzurri

how should we approach the game? Try to score as many as possible to close the gap on gd?

The GD side of things is an irrelevance now. It's a gap of 8 and they have Wolves next - if it comes down to that, it's game over for us.

I think a big win is important from a confidence point of view more than anything to be honest.

I don't see how it'd be beneficial to be stumbling into the derby game. A couple of quality wins before City would set us up nicely.

Moston Red · 14th April 2012, 17:54

An absolute must win.

Relevated · 14th April 2012, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Moston Red

An absolute must win.

Spoiler

Number7 · 14th April 2012, 18:07

Agree with Feed Me, those players have been utterly useless recently.

I'll add there's absolutely no chance of any of them having a positive impact in an easy win for us tomorrow - none at all.

pete_8 · 14th April 2012, 21:03

Just need to go out and do a job on em, they will come and park the bus , nice early goal and we will win 3 or 4 nil.

pete_8 · 14th April 2012, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Azzurri

how should we approach the game? Try to score as many as possible to close the gap on gd?

Just a win will do and a win against Everton.We have no influence on what they do until we play them of course. A 5 point gap going to Wastelands will mean all the pressure is on them.. Squeaky bum time.

Ramshock · 14th April 2012, 21:10

had some credit over from the national and put a tenner on us to win 5-0 at 75-1 so no pressure lads

dileno · 14th April 2012, 21:13

We'll go 1-0 up early, then again settle and win 2-0 or so. This season we rarely run over our opponents at home score wise (bar Arsenal).

I'll take any kind of win. A win in fashion would be great though

Old Trafford should be LOUD tomorrow!

pete_8 · 14th April 2012, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Ramshock

had some credit over from the national and put a tenner on us to win 5-0 at 75-1 so no pressure lads

Good luck mate.Be a nice touch

charlenefan · 14th April 2012, 23:41

We could really do with lifting this doom and gloom City have created with their massive win today, alas there's more chance of tomorrow being 1-0 to United than 4 or 5

End of the day though any kind of win PLEASE

Relevated · 14th April 2012, 23:43

will keane to curl one in for 50 yards and be hailed as the new king of old trafford.

Sean_RedDevil · 15th April 2012, 00:47

Sean's team to beat Aston Villa
Starting XI

Bench: Amos, Smalling, Fabio, Giggs, Nani, Welbeck, Chicharito
Not in the squad: Berbatov, Park, Jones, Fryers, Pogba, W.Keane
Out: Vidic, Fletcher, Anderson, Owen, Lindegaard

Some words to the team-selection
I know 4-5-1 against Aston Villa at Old Trafford looks defensively-minded but i don't think Welbeck or Chicharito deserve to be in the starting XI after their last performances and it looks like Berbatov has no role anymore in Fergie's eyes.

The right-back position was a tough contest between Rafael and Smalling but i give the place to Rafael, but Smalling is a good option too because he could be a big factor for the set-pieces (Aston Villa have conceded 18 goals after set-pieces this season) in that game.

Nani or Cleverley was the last major decision for me and the place in the starting XI goes to Cleverley because i want to see finally the midfield trio Scholes-Cleverley-Carrick and Nani is maybe not 100% ready for a full game.

Player to watch: Ashley Young
Young's set-pieces could be a major factor for us because Aston Villa have conceded so much goals after set-pieces this season and he plays against his former team-mates.

Magnus · 15th April 2012, 01:08

Pretty sure Nani will start and Young won´t

jakec · 15th April 2012, 01:34

To start Clev would be stupid, Nani should play if fit. Should also play 2 up front, and rafael has been excellent.

wr8_utd · 15th April 2012, 08:27

Rooney Berbatov will start imo. Fergie said Berba will be involved in the next few games and he's good at scoring at OT vs the lower teams and plus Welbeck and Hernandez have been useless off late.

Drifter · 15th April 2012, 09:05

Expecting a good response from the lack luster performance in midweek. 3-0

Traub · 15th April 2012, 10:21

Starting to get a bit nervous now. I think we will win it but it will be a tight game.

SirAF · 15th April 2012, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Azzurri

how should we approach the game? Try to score as many as possible to close the gap on gd?

We should try to win the game for a start!

MUFAN79 · 15th April 2012, 10:42

We'll win 2-1

pauldyson1uk · 15th April 2012, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by wr8_utd

Rooney Berbatov will start imo. Fergie said Berba will be involved in the next few games and he's good at scoring at OT vs the lower teams and plus Welbeck and Hernandez have been useless off late.

I dont think Berba will start and I dont think we will see him in a United shirt again

Colin129 · 15th April 2012, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnus

Pretty sure Nani will start and Young won´t

I hope so, can't get these people putting Young ahead of Nani.

With Rooney, Nani & Valencia we will be formidable...

ricky-romeo · 15th April 2012, 10:49

hope the poor display in midweek will stir the players up again..we need a positive performance and result today.

McGrathsipan · 15th April 2012, 12:00

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Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

I dont think Berba will start and I dont think we will see him in a United shirt again

I agree with the starting today bit but I feel that he will get a final appearance after the title is decided.

Fergie may give him a goodbye appearance in the Swansea match!

Garethw · 15th April 2012, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

I hope so, can't get these people putting Young ahead of Nani.

With Rooney, Nani & Valencia we will be formidable...

I'd start Young over Nani today purely because he is 100% match fit and Nani isn't.

I'd look to bring Nani on in the 60-70th minute to really terrorise them.

Solius · 15th April 2012, 12:43

I'm watching this game at my mates. The last 5 games I watched at his were:

Manchester United 8 - 2 Arsenal
Manchester United 3 - 0 Tottenham
Manchester United 3 - 0 Chelsea
Arsenal 1 - 2 Manchester United
Tottenham 1 - 3 Manchester United

Enjoy

Colin129 · 15th April 2012, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solius

I'm watching this game at my mates. The last 5 games I watched at his were:

Manchester United 8 - 2 Arsenal
Manchester United 3 - 0 Tottenham
Manchester United 3 - 0 Chelsea
Arsenal 1 - 2 Manchester United
Tottenham 1 - 3 Manchester United

Enjoy

If we lose/draw it will be your fault...

Sean_RedDevil · 15th April 2012, 13:29

.................................................. ............MATCH CENTRE
Match Stats
- Head-to-head total: 90-38-49
-.Head-to-head @Old Trafford: 57-17-12
- Manchester United's current form: LWWWWL
..Aston Villa's current form: DWLLDD
- Manchester United have lost just 1 of their last 30 meetings against Aston Villa (24 wins and 5 draws), but this Aston Villa win was at Old Trafford just 2 1/2 years.
-.ago.
- Aston Villa have won only 1 of their past 26 league visits to Old Trafford, a 1-0 win on 12/12/2009.
- Aston Villa have taken points off Manchester United in each of the last 3 seasons.
- If the Red Devils score against Aston Villa then they'll break the Premier League record for netting in consecutive home matches......they have scored in each of
-.their last 46 league home games, the last visiting Premier League club to keep a clean sheet at Old Trafford was Aston Villa in their 1-0 win on 12/12/2009.
- Manchester United lost 1-0 to Wigan in midweek but they've not failed to score in consecutive league games since May-August 2007.
- Aston Villa have lost just 4 away league games this term (Only Manchester United have a better record with 2 defeats on the road), but they've won just 3 times
-.and have also 9 draws on their travels.

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Likely line-ups (Guardian)

kps88 · 15th April 2012, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solius

I'm watching this game at my mates. The last 5 games I watched at his were:

Manchester United 8 - 2 Arsenal
Manchester United 3 - 0 Tottenham
Manchester United 3 - 0 Chelsea
Arsenal 1 - 2 Manchester United
Tottenham 1 - 3 Manchester United

Enjoy

And you're wasting that on Villa at home?

pauldyson1uk · 15th April 2012, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGrathsipan

I agree with the starting today bit but I feel that he will get a final appearance after the title is decided.

Fergie may give him a goodbye appearance in the Swansea match!

I am not so sure , there is a reason why he has not played or even been on the bench , something that has not come out.

SER19 · 15th April 2012, 14:11

a fan of both but welbeck or hernandez should not start today.

de gea

rafael
evans
ferdinand
evra

carrick
scholes
giggs

nani
young
rooney

3-1

Feed Me · 15th April 2012, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by SER19

a fan of both but welbeck or hernandez should not start today.

de gea

rafael
evans
ferdinand
evra

carrick
scholes
giggs

nani
young
rooney

3-1

Don't think Giggs should be starting to be honest.

Lawman · 15th April 2012, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

I am not so sure , there is a reason why he has not played or even been on the bench , something that has not come out.

Think if Berba is involved then this might give us an insight into SAF thinking about whether to by a striker next season. If he involves Berba and then offloads him at then end of the season imo he will buy a replacement as i would conclude SAF doesn't think Hernandez and Wellbeck options are enough.

SER19 · 15th April 2012, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feed Me

Don't think Giggs should be starting to be honest.

awful during the week but what we lacked was composure. scholes and giggs bring out the best in eachother,that middle 3 dominated in the cup at anfield. get out and dominate from the start should be the idea today

Lynk · 15th April 2012, 14:18

Giggs shouldn't start any game between here and the end of the season. 15 minutes cameos please.

Carl · 15th April 2012, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk

Giggs shouldn't start any game between here and the end of the season. 15 minutes cameos please.

We've said this before with Giggs though. He just goes through extremes in form.

Lynk · 15th April 2012, 14:26

It's too risky at this time of the season to persist with such an inconsistent player.

Colin129 · 15th April 2012, 14:44

I say we should sell him, he's too old now...

This is Giggsy we're talking about here, you do realise that don't you?

McGrathsipan · 15th April 2012, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

I am not so sure , there is a reason why he has not played or even been on the bench , something that has not come out.

hopefully not but ive had that thought as well Paul.

Traub · 15th April 2012, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk

Giggs shouldn't start any game between here and the end of the season. 15 minutes cameos please.

Agreed. He seems to be playing very well as an impact player this year. Once the opposition is tired his flair passes and play seems to come off.

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14th April 2012, 17:41	#81 (permalink)
The Azzurri Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 946	how should we approach the game? Try to score as many as possible to close the gap on gd?

14th April 2012, 17:54	#83 (permalink)
Moston Red Formerly Giggs1973 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,717	An absolute must win.

14th April 2012, 18:07	#85 (permalink)
Number7 Ret's Slave Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I am very enjoy Posts: 28,043	Agree with Feed Me, those players have been utterly useless recently. I'll add there's absolutely no chance of any of them having a positive impact in an easy win for us tomorrow - none at all.

14th April 2012, 21:03	#86 (permalink)
pete_8 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Birmingham and Manchester Posts: 2,884	Just need to go out and do a job on em, they will come and park the bus , nice early goal and we will win 3 or 4 nil.

14th April 2012, 21:10	#88 (permalink)
Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 13,056	had some credit over from the national and put a tenner on us to win 5-0 at 75-1 so no pressure lads

14th April 2012, 21:13	#89 (permalink)
dileno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 516	We'll go 1-0 up early, then again settle and win 2-0 or so. This season we rarely run over our opponents at home score wise (bar Arsenal). I'll take any kind of win. A win in fashion would be great though Old Trafford should be LOUD tomorrow!

14th April 2012, 23:41	#91 (permalink)
charlenefan First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9,004	We could really do with lifting this doom and gloom City have created with their massive win today, alas there's more chance of tomorrow being 1-0 to United than 4 or 5 End of the day though any kind of win PLEASE

14th April 2012, 23:43	#92 (permalink)
Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,187	will keane to curl one in for 50 yards and be hailed as the new king of old trafford.

15th April 2012, 00:47	#93 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	Sean's team to beat Aston Villa Starting XI Bench: Amos, Smalling, Fabio, Giggs, Nani, Welbeck, Chicharito Not in the squad: Berbatov, Park, Jones, Fryers, Pogba, W.Keane Out: Vidic, Fletcher, Anderson, Owen, Lindegaard Some words to the team-selection I know 4-5-1 against Aston Villa at Old Trafford looks defensively-minded but i don't think Welbeck or Chicharito deserve to be in the starting XI after their last performances and it looks like Berbatov has no role anymore in Fergie's eyes. The right-back position was a tough contest between Rafael and Smalling but i give the place to Rafael, but Smalling is a good option too because he could be a big factor for the set-pieces (Aston Villa have conceded 18 goals after set-pieces this season) in that game. Nani or Cleverley was the last major decision for me and the place in the starting XI goes to Cleverley because i want to see finally the midfield trio Scholes-Cleverley-Carrick and Nani is maybe not 100% ready for a full game. Player to watch: Ashley Young Young's set-pieces could be a major factor for us because Aston Villa have conceded so much goals after set-pieces this season and he plays against his former team-mates.

15th April 2012, 01:08	#94 (permalink)
Magnus Another mad swede Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Balcony BB and after that W3106 Posts: 2,647	Pretty sure Nani will start and Young won´t

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jakec I'm a fecking politics student for Gods sake Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Follow me @_JakeCullen_ Posts: 20,916	To start Clev would be stupid, Nani should play if fit. Should also play 2 up front, and rafael has been excellent.

15th April 2012, 08:27	#96 (permalink)
wr8_utd :'( Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28,302	Rooney Berbatov will start imo. Fergie said Berba will be involved in the next few games and he's good at scoring at OT vs the lower teams and plus Welbeck and Hernandez have been useless off late.

15th April 2012, 09:05	#97 (permalink)
Drifter American Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 36,467	Expecting a good response from the lack luster performance in midweek. 3-0

15th April 2012, 10:21	#98 (permalink)
Traub First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 5,165	Starting to get a bit nervous now. I think we will win it but it will be a tight game.

15th April 2012, 10:42	#100 (permalink)
MUFAN79 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bosnia Posts: 4,847	We'll win 2-1

15th April 2012, 10:49	#103 (permalink)
ricky-romeo First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: kota bharu Posts: 6,674	hope the poor display in midweek will stir the players up again..we need a positive performance and result today.

15th April 2012, 12:43	#106 (permalink)
Solius I am a mod, I swear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everybody will be dancing and be doing it right. Posts: 49,487	I'm watching this game at my mates. The last 5 games I watched at his were: Manchester United 8 - 2 Arsenal Manchester United 3 - 0 Tottenham Manchester United 3 - 0 Chelsea Arsenal 1 - 2 Manchester United Tottenham 1 - 3 Manchester United Enjoy

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15th April 2012, 14:11	#111 (permalink)
SER19 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,237	a fan of both but welbeck or hernandez should not start today. de gea rafael evans ferdinand evra carrick scholes giggs nani young rooney 3-1

15th April 2012, 14:18	#115 (permalink)
Lynk Obsessed with discrediting Danny Welbeck Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,091	Giggs shouldn't start any game between here and the end of the season. 15 minutes cameos please.

15th April 2012, 14:26	#117 (permalink)
Lynk Obsessed with discrediting Danny Welbeck Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,091	It's too risky at this time of the season to persist with such an inconsistent player.

15th April 2012, 14:44	#118 (permalink)
Colin129 Role model Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 16,303	I say we should sell him, he's too old now... This is Giggsy we're talking about here, you do realise that don't you?