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Old 16th April 2012, 11:38   #41 (permalink)
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I dont see why Young should be benched for diving. He ought to be told to cut it out though. He's in a fairly good form lately. His corners and crosses are much better than Nani's or Giggsy's in my opinion.


Young is a decent Premiership player, Nani is on a different plane entirely.

I can't believe there is even a debate about this.

We have 4 games left, 1 per week, we should play our strongest team every week. We are stronger with Nani than with Young.

There is nothing more to say...
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Old 16th April 2012, 12:22   #42 (permalink)
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Can anyone see the unlikely probability that Rooney to be left out of this one? Fergie has done it before right?
it'd be crazy to do so. it's not like we have other competitions to distract us.
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Old 16th April 2012, 13:32   #43 (permalink)
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Young is a decent Premiership player, Nani is on a different plane entirely.

I can't believe there is even a debate about this.

We have 4 games left, 1 per week, we should play our strongest team every week. We are stronger with Nani than with Young.

There is nothing more to say...
Hear hear! Nani all the way as long as he's match fit.
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Old 16th April 2012, 13:38   #44 (permalink)
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Can anyone see the unlikely probability that Rooney to be left out of this one? Fergie has done it before right?
Rooney had been subbed when he's not playing well. My guess is, if he was annoyed and agitated hence can't perform in this game, he will be subbed.

To not start him would send a wrong message and I am not sure if it will boost morale. In all, if he's alright in training, he will start.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:00   #45 (permalink)
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Because he's a bit shit and Nani is a far far far better player I would imagine. I've highlighted the reasons why I'd keep him in for next week though.
He is not at all shit but yeah Nani is better.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:01   #46 (permalink)
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Same team as today, get Nani 100% for Citeh, bring him on second half again.
I would go with this.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:03   #47 (permalink)
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I have a sneaky feeling SAF will experiment and not play Carrick and Scholes in the center.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:03   #48 (permalink)
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I dont see why Young should be benched for diving. He ought to be told to cut it out though. He's in a fairly good form lately. His corners and crosses are much better than Nani's or Giggsy's in my opinion.
Nani put in the best corner at the weekend, Evans very nearly scored from it. Another Nani cross put a chance on a plate for Berbatov. Nani is basically better at everything, except possibly diving.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:21   #49 (permalink)
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Everton's season is virtually over. I hope they won't be arsed at OT.
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Old 16th April 2012, 14:36   #50 (permalink)
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Everton could be totally demoralized and easy meat, or they may play with the kind of freedom that causes an upset, it's hard to tell how they'll react from the cup semi defeat.
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This "leave Young in to get a penalty" theory is mental. After the last two weeks, if Phil Jagielka takes out a machete and hacks Ashley Young's leg off inside the penalty area, the referee is going to give it a good hard think before awarding us a pen. Play Nani.
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:13   #52 (permalink)
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Everton's season is virtually over. I hope they won't be arsed at OT.
Moyes wont let them rest... and they can very realistically finish above Liverpool.
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:15   #53 (permalink)
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This "leave Young in to get a penalty" theory is mental. After the last two weeks, if Phil Jagielka takes out a machete and hacks Ashley Young's leg off inside the penalty area, the referee is going to give it a good hard think before awarding us a pen. Play Nani.
Definitely. Everybody has forgotten that Nani goes down fairly easy now.
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:36   #54 (permalink)
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Moyes wont let them rest... and they can very realistically finish above Liverpool.
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:38   #55 (permalink)
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:46   #56 (permalink)
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Old 16th April 2012, 15:56   #57 (permalink)
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I have a sneaky feeling SAF will experiment and not play Carrick and Scholes in the center.
Oh yes Giggs and Park in CM
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Old 16th April 2012, 16:05   #58 (permalink)
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I'd start Nani take him off after 60-70mins should be more than ready for the full game against City, He seems to perform quite well against them aswell
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Old 16th April 2012, 18:52   #59 (permalink)
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Old 16th April 2012, 19:18   #60 (permalink)
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I have a sneaky feeling SAF will experiment and not play Carrick and Scholes in the center.
He might make a tactical call - though I can't see us starting without both - but I wouldn't call it an experiment.
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Old 16th April 2012, 20:52   #61 (permalink)
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Old 16th April 2012, 21:07   #62 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind Fergie trying a 4-5-1 in preparation for City away the week after. We've not looked good in that type of formation in ages, and will likely need it to counter City's setup. Maybe play all 3 of Valencia, Nani and Young behind Rooney:

---------------DdG-------------
-Rafael--Rio-------Evans--Evra-
---------Carrick--Scholes------
--Valencia---Young----Nani----
--------------Rooney----------

Young has been excellent at tracking back lately, and that front 4 is really mobile. Fellaini and Gibbo tend to sit back ala De Jong and Barry, so could be a good chance to see how a slightly narrower approach works against a disciplined defense (which both Everton and City have).

But this season, who knows what Fergie will do
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Old 17th April 2012, 01:46   #63 (permalink)
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I agree with Beachryan - I'd like to use this as a dry-run for the derby, giving the combinations some time together against strong opposition in a pressure game. Also the last chance to get returning players some match-time ahead of the derby.

So for both Everton and City away, I'd like to see:

De Gea
Rafael---Evans---Ferdinand---Evra
Carrick
Scholes---Cleverley
Valencia---Rooney---Nani

Harsh to drop Welbeck after all his effort against Villa, but I'd worry about being too open against City with him starting (yes I know he started and scored in the cup win there in January). Cleverley needs a start. I could go eitherway with Nani or Young on the left; the latter hasn't done much wrong (in terms of effort/contribution anyway) but I agree that Nani would benefit more from the start - though that said against City perhaps Young would start as he's been playing regularly, but at least Nani would be on the bench with another 60 minutes or so under his belt.
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Old 17th April 2012, 07:01   #64 (permalink)
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I would start with Berba and Welbeck, and bring Rooney on in the 2nd half.

Give Berba some playing time and get a goal or two out of him, he will not disappoint. Rooney is the best impact sub to have in such a scenario.
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Old 17th April 2012, 07:04   #65 (permalink)
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Old 17th April 2012, 09:03   #66 (permalink)
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Liverpool supporting colleague of mine was harping on about Everton needing to win, "do it for the rest of the league" and other bullshit.

Saying that, I hope Gibson smashes it into the back of his own net and the away crowd go into raptures.
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Old 17th April 2012, 09:48   #67 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind Fergie trying a 4-5-1 in preparation for City away the week after. We've not looked good in that type of formation in ages, and will likely need it to counter City's setup. Maybe play all 3 of Valencia, Nani and Young behind Rooney:

---------------DdG-------------
-Rafael--Rio-------Evans--Evra-
---------Carrick--Scholes------
--Valencia---Young----Nani----
--------------Rooney----------

Young has been excellent at tracking back lately, and that front 4 is really mobile. Fellaini and Gibbo tend to sit back ala De Jong and Barry, so could be a good chance to see how a slightly narrower approach works against a disciplined defense (which both Everton and City have).

But this season, who knows what Fergie will do
Not a bad idea but if you are going to do that I would switch Nani and Young, Nani is better at beating players and creating space for himself than Young is imo.
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Old 17th April 2012, 13:53   #68 (permalink)
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Nani in for Young. Other than that, same team as the one that started the last game.
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Old 17th April 2012, 14:02   #69 (permalink)
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de gea

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Everton will sit back a lot. Berbatov to get some playing time again.
SAF always makes a couple of changes. I wonder who he'll take off this time.
Berbatov is only going to get some playtime if we are leading by a minimum of 2 goals with 15 minutes to go.
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Oh yes Giggs and Park in CM
No he is going to play Rafael in the center alongside Jones.
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who is the ref?
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Old 18th April 2012, 00:26   #74 (permalink)
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Watching a classic United vs Everton match on my Premier League channel.

United playing with Howard, Neville, Ferdinand, Silvestre, O'Shea, Nicky Butt, Kleberson, Ronaldo, Fortune, Bellion and Forlan.

Rooney still at Everton.

Bit funny seeing the old Ronaldo, incredible how much he changed.
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Old 18th April 2012, 06:29   #76 (permalink)
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I would start with Berba and Welbeck, and bring Rooney on in the 2nd half.

Give Berba some playing time and get a goal or two out of him, he will not disappoint. Rooney is the best impact sub to have in such a scenario.
So many wrongs in just one post. Berba will not be included for that game.
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Old 18th April 2012, 08:24   #77 (permalink)
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So many wrongs in just one post. Berba will not be included for that game.
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Hopefully Young will get us another early penalty.
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