2011 Baseball Thread

dave2528 · 30th October 2011, 17:42

What is it then when you're the Cardinals and you're down to your last strike, twice, and both times your team comes up with game tying hits?

On the flip side of that coin, it wasn't choking that caused Lance Berkman and David Freese to tie with two strikes against, and then for Freese to win game 6 with that homerun.

Give at least some credit where it's due.

Ace · 31st October 2011, 16:57

This series really was the Cardinals' to lose, and they almost gave it up. People are spending all their time concentrating on the fact that Texas couldn't execute when it really mattered, and ignoring the fact that the Cardinals made a number of very outlandish errors (on field and in the dugout) keeping this Texas ball club in the series.

Another legendary win from one of the most historic clubs in the sport. Tonly La Russa calling it quits today, thanks for the service and what a way to go out.

forevrared · 31st October 2011, 17:38

Derek Lowe shipped out to the Indians, today is a good day.

Leg-End · 8th December 2011, 23:06

Pujols and CJ Wilson to the Angels, Marlins spreading it all about, Yu Darvish about to be posted. Pretty good winter meetings this year.

Leg-End · 21st December 2011, 00:02

Rangers won the Darvish bidding then with $51.7 million, you figure its going north of $120 million total with the contract. Thats a hell of an outlay on what is essentially a AAAA player even though his numbers are super impressive and the stuff looks good, even more so when you consider they let a proven CJ Wilson walk.

Rooney1987 · 21st December 2011, 00:53

Yankees fans not happy about losing on Darvish, I'm not too bothered $120 is allot for someone who is unproven in MLB. I'd rather just go for 1 year deals like Oswalt or Kuroda for 2012 and save the cash for Hamels or Cain in 2013.

Leg-End · 21st December 2011, 01:04

It's a high price, Yankees could have spent it but its not the end of the world.

Oswalt - Can't trust that back.
Kuroda - Best option out there I think.

I agree 2013 looks like a good bunch but you gotta figure a few will re-up. I don't want Cain and his 37% ground ball rate anywhere near Yankee Stadium though.

As long as we don't give up Montero or ManBan for nothing less than a Felix Hernandez I don't mind.

Rooney1987 · 14th January 2012, 01:59

Ok Yankees offseason just got interesting.

First Yankees trade Montero, Noesi for Pineda and Jose Campos. I hated this when I first heard this but thinking about it's actually a great deal. We all love to see prospects do well in the majors, it's the price you have to pay for great young pitchers. Yankees must be convinced Jesus can't catch, so the deal it a young DH/5th starter type for future ace/top 100 prospect in Campos.

Second is Yankees agree deal for Kurodo on 10 Mil for 1 year. Good deal I just hope this means end of AJ. Please Cashman get rid of AJ please.

Leg-End · 14th January 2012, 02:13

CC
Pineda
Kuroda
Nova
Garcia/AJ/Hughes

From what the rotation looked like to that inside of an hour I can't not be pleased. I really hate to see Montero go, really sucks but Pineda looks like he might be a future ace and Campos is highly rated, Kuroda is just a great add-on signing too.

Wow that was from nowhere though, as soon as I heard Montero was involved I was dissapointed but man I like Pineda and the DH spot needed to be open for the older hitters, I think Montero is likely to be a 1B/DH going forward.

MrMarcello · 14th January 2012, 04:48

Who's catching for the Yanks then?

Rangers are holding talks with Fielder. Not really excited about him though he's going to hit lots of homeruns wherever he ends up. He's a liability defensively and at his weight it is inevitable he'll break down at one point during his 7-10 year contract he'll get. But I can only imagine the protection he'd offer to Hamilton and Young.

And yes Darvish is going to cost quite a bit but he's going to do a Nomo not an Irabu. Should be money well spent. Might give the Rangers that bonafide staff ace they haven't had since the Kevin Brown days of the early 90s.

Wittmann45 · 24th January 2012, 23:11

Never thought I'd see the day when Prince would be playing in a Tigers uniform; evidently, neither did Cecil.

It is sort of funny though as Prince is about to have a big pay day and evidently his father decides to reach out an olive branch...

MrMarcello · 25th January 2012, 00:08

Heard today no left-handed hitter has hit more than 14 homeruns at Comerica Park during a season. Analysts are saying his HR numbers are going to drop considerably in a park better suited for right-handed hitters. Quite a bit of money paid for a guy that weighs near 300lbs and is a defensive liability, though he'll end up a DH before this contract is half-way done, maybe sooner if this article has any indication. Source -- Detroit Tigers land Prince Fielder with nine-year, $214 million deal - ESPN

Hope it works well for the Tigers. Big coup for them. With no Martinez in the lineup he's going to be pitched around frequently.

Leg-End · 25th January 2012, 00:19

I'm glad Boras doesn't do football contracts, he's a god damn juggernaut.

Wittmann45 · 25th January 2012, 02:38

Maybe, but its not really a fair comparison. When was the last time the Tigers had a power hitting left hander? Granderson has done really well in New York in the middle of the order, but he was never used that way with the Tigers, he was a led off.

Boesch had near 10 last year at home and he didn't play the last 30 games or so and went through a dry spell of about 20 or 30 games in the beginning of the year. So, in about half a year, he hit 10 at home and he doesn't have half the talent Fielder does

Barbara Charles · 25th January 2012, 13:37

Time to start the 2012 thread lads?

Neutral · 25th January 2012, 14:09

Another season of the Orioles being shit...

Leg-End · 25th January 2012, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbara Charles

Time to start the 2012 thread lads?

Go for it. We should do fantasy baseball again this year too.

alan_nis · 1st February 2012, 14:12

I've decided to start following baseball from now on. Which team should I root for? Are Mets not the worst option?

Neutral · 1st February 2012, 14:22

Root for the Marlins - they need all the fans they can get, even internet fans. They used to be known as the Florida Marlins - not a shit team, just no fans.

Leg-End · 1st February 2012, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan_nis

I've decided to start following baseball from now on. Which team should I root for? Are Mets not the worst option?

I can think of 29 other teams better to support than the Mets. Depends if you like NL or AL baseball really.

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30th October 2011, 17:42	#281 (permalink)
dave2528 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,246	What is it then when you're the Cardinals and you're down to your last strike, twice, and both times your team comes up with game tying hits? On the flip side of that coin, it wasn't choking that caused Lance Berkman and David Freese to tie with two strikes against, and then for Freese to win game 6 with that homerun. Give at least some credit where it's due.

31st October 2011, 16:57	#282 (permalink)
Ace Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ------------------------------ Posts: 3,718	This series really was the Cardinals' to lose, and they almost gave it up. People are spending all their time concentrating on the fact that Texas couldn't execute when it really mattered, and ignoring the fact that the Cardinals made a number of very outlandish errors (on field and in the dugout) keeping this Texas ball club in the series. Another legendary win from one of the most historic clubs in the sport. Tonly La Russa calling it quits today, thanks for the service and what a way to go out.

31st October 2011, 17:38	#283 (permalink)
forevrared Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,973	Derek Lowe shipped out to the Indians, today is a good day.

8th December 2011, 23:06	#284 (permalink)
Leg-End First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "SAF - you're an old dick - but I respect you." Posts: 8,770	Pujols and CJ Wilson to the Angels, Marlins spreading it all about, Yu Darvish about to be posted. Pretty good winter meetings this year.

21st December 2011, 00:02	#285 (permalink)
Leg-End First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "SAF - you're an old dick - but I respect you." Posts: 8,770	Rangers won the Darvish bidding then with $51.7 million, you figure its going north of $120 million total with the contract. Thats a hell of an outlay on what is essentially a AAAA player even though his numbers are super impressive and the stuff looks good, even more so when you consider they let a proven CJ Wilson walk.

21st December 2011, 00:53	#286 (permalink)
Rooney1987 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bradford Posts: 4,456	Yankees fans not happy about losing on Darvish, I'm not too bothered $120 is allot for someone who is unproven in MLB. I'd rather just go for 1 year deals like Oswalt or Kuroda for 2012 and save the cash for Hamels or Cain in 2013.

21st December 2011, 01:04	#287 (permalink)
Leg-End First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "SAF - you're an old dick - but I respect you." Posts: 8,770	It's a high price, Yankees could have spent it but its not the end of the world. Oswalt - Can't trust that back. Kuroda - Best option out there I think. I agree 2013 looks like a good bunch but you gotta figure a few will re-up. I don't want Cain and his 37% ground ball rate anywhere near Yankee Stadium though. As long as we don't give up Montero or ManBan for nothing less than a Felix Hernandez I don't mind.

14th January 2012, 01:59	#288 (permalink)
Rooney1987 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bradford Posts: 4,456	Ok Yankees offseason just got interesting. First Yankees trade Montero, Noesi for Pineda and Jose Campos. I hated this when I first heard this but thinking about it's actually a great deal. We all love to see prospects do well in the majors, it's the price you have to pay for great young pitchers. Yankees must be convinced Jesus can't catch, so the deal it a young DH/5th starter type for future ace/top 100 prospect in Campos. Second is Yankees agree deal for Kurodo on 10 Mil for 1 year. Good deal I just hope this means end of AJ. Please Cashman get rid of AJ please.

14th January 2012, 02:13	#289 (permalink)
Leg-End First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "SAF - you're an old dick - but I respect you." Posts: 8,770	CC Pineda Kuroda Nova Garcia/AJ/Hughes From what the rotation looked like to that inside of an hour I can't not be pleased. I really hate to see Montero go, really sucks but Pineda looks like he might be a future ace and Campos is highly rated, Kuroda is just a great add-on signing too. Wow that was from nowhere though, as soon as I heard Montero was involved I was dissapointed but man I like Pineda and the DH spot needed to be open for the older hitters, I think Montero is likely to be a 1B/DH going forward.

14th January 2012, 04:48	#290 (permalink)
MrMarcello No Lifer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 31,931	Who's catching for the Yanks then? Rangers are holding talks with Fielder. Not really excited about him though he's going to hit lots of homeruns wherever he ends up. He's a liability defensively and at his weight it is inevitable he'll break down at one point during his 7-10 year contract he'll get. But I can only imagine the protection he'd offer to Hamilton and Young. And yes Darvish is going to cost quite a bit but he's going to do a Nomo not an Irabu. Should be money well spent. Might give the Rangers that bonafide staff ace they haven't had since the Kevin Brown days of the early 90s.

24th January 2012, 23:11	#291 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 4,150	Never thought I'd see the day when Prince would be playing in a Tigers uniform; evidently, neither did Cecil. It is sort of funny though as Prince is about to have a big pay day and evidently his father decides to reach out an olive branch...

25th January 2012, 00:08	#292 (permalink)
MrMarcello No Lifer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 31,931	Heard today no left-handed hitter has hit more than 14 homeruns at Comerica Park during a season. Analysts are saying his HR numbers are going to drop considerably in a park better suited for right-handed hitters. Quite a bit of money paid for a guy that weighs near 300lbs and is a defensive liability, though he'll end up a DH before this contract is half-way done, maybe sooner if this article has any indication. Source -- Detroit Tigers land Prince Fielder with nine-year, $214 million deal - ESPN Hope it works well for the Tigers. Big coup for them. With no Martinez in the lineup he's going to be pitched around frequently.

25th January 2012, 00:19	#293 (permalink)
Leg-End First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "SAF - you're an old dick - but I respect you." Posts: 8,770	I'm glad Boras doesn't do football contracts, he's a god damn juggernaut.

25th January 2012, 02:38	#294 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 4,150	Maybe, but its not really a fair comparison. When was the last time the Tigers had a power hitting left hander? Granderson has done really well in New York in the middle of the order, but he was never used that way with the Tigers, he was a led off. Boesch had near 10 last year at home and he didn't play the last 30 games or so and went through a dry spell of about 20 or 30 games in the beginning of the year. So, in about half a year, he hit 10 at home and he doesn't have half the talent Fielder does

25th January 2012, 13:37	#295 (permalink)
Barbara Charles First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philadelphia, USA Posts: 5,345	Time to start the 2012 thread lads?

25th January 2012, 14:09	#296 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 6,447	Another season of the Orioles being shit...

1st February 2012, 14:12	#298 (permalink)
alan_nis Youth Team Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warsaw Posts: 360	I've decided to start following baseball from now on. Which team should I root for? Are Mets not the worst option?

1st February 2012, 14:22	#299 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 6,447	Root for the Marlins - they need all the fans they can get, even internet fans. They used to be known as the Florida Marlins - not a shit team, just no fans.