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lem8sh · 10th November 2011, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Nearco

Trip is key as I can see the Pipe horse pulling quite bad.

Agreed unless maybe Scu tries to set decent pace and make all but that's doubtful, 2/1 about CC has been quickly snapped up.

Nearco · 12th November 2011, 11:17

Disappointing unseat on Cue Card yesterday. That horse needs a better jockey.

Couple of bets today. Mon Parrain is worth one in the big race at 2.35. He's a horse of considerable promise who jumped the National fences in April as economically as I can remember any horse ever doing. That economy in jumping is a crucial attribute a horse needs at Cheltenham and whilst he's not a great price I think he could demolish this field today - especially with quite a few of them running outside of the handicap proper.

In the 1.55 Nick Williams runs Reve De Sivola. This horse has generally been a disappointment since being a chaser but he was placed in a hot race at the Festival and runs off a similar mark today. 10/1 is very fair.

evra · 19th November 2011, 12:08

Long Run today?

Gee Male · 19th November 2011, 12:22

Indian Daudaiae at 12.30

Decotron · 19th November 2011, 12:28

Not sure where to post this, but Boyle Sports are doing a decent promotion this w/e.

Open a new account and put a 30 euro bet on something thats 2/1 or greater and you get the brand new Ireland jersey and another 20 euro free bet.

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lem8sh · 19th November 2011, 13:34

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Originally Posted by evra

Long Run today?

Every chance he will win but this is his seasonal reappearance and there's every chance he won't be fully wound up. Cracking race but one to watch for me.

Decotron · 19th November 2011, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Decotron

Not sure where to post this, but Boyle Sports are doing a decent promotion this w/e.

Open a new account and put a 30 euro bet on something thats 2/1 or greater and you get the brand new Ireland jersey and another 20 euro free bet.

Now to find a 2/1 shot.......!

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lem8sh · 19th November 2011, 15:58

Long live the King!!!! Absolute pleasure and joy to witness that, unbelievable.

StuCol101 · 19th November 2011, 21:03

Kauto Star with a great performance today. Pleasure to watch.

Masterminded did well too. Boxing day racing will be interesting.

lem8sh · 19th November 2011, 21:17

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Originally Posted by StuCol101

Kauto Star with a great performance today. Pleasure to watch.

Masterminded did well too. Boxing day racing will be interesting.

Be interesting to see will they both turn up for the King George, I'd prefer to see Kauto put away till March myself. Long Runs jumping fell to pieces on the 2nd circuit but I was really impressed with how well he battled, he'll come on a tonne for that and is definitely still the one to beat on Boxing day.

Nearco · 19th November 2011, 21:43

I hope they both turn up but Somersby was gaining on Master Minded towards the end and I don't see the latter staying 3 miles. Kauto was hard trained for this race and today was his day. Long Run actually enhanced his reputation if anything as he needed the run and jumped poorly at times but wasn't beaten far. If I could get 3s I'd lump on him for the Gold Cup. As for Kempton, I'm a big fan of Captain Chris and think he will be special when he takes in a trip. He's a massive danger to the favourite so 7s is a very fair each way price. I can't see him out of the frame.

Today was what makes Jump Racing so special. I had my conkers on Diamond Harry and Somersby but wasn't bothered about the money. I've always been a Denman rather than a Kauto man but that was great to watch.

lem8sh · 19th November 2011, 22:05

I think he might just get away with the trip around Kempton but whether he'll get it well enough to win is another matter. I'm a Denman man myself, now for the Lexus on the 28th of next month I can't wait

Nearco · 19th November 2011, 22:14

I'm going to Ireland for that meeting. Had to see Denman jump a fence in person before he retires.

lem8sh · 19th November 2011, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Nearco

I'm going to Ireland for that meeting. Had to see Denman jump a fence in person before he retires.

Ya heading up from County Kerry myself to see him,never seen him before. If you fancy a few sociables when you arrive let me know!

Nearco · 20th November 2011, 21:01

I was at Cheltenham when he was beaten by Nicanor in his hurdling days but haven't seen him chasing. I'll PM you my number before I set off.

Nearco · 25th November 2011, 19:04

I make Wayward Prince a reasonable each way bet in the 3.10 at Newbury tomorrow. This is one of the big handicaps of the jumps season and it looks a wide open renewal. My selection ran a cracking race in the big 3 mile novice chase at the Cheltenham Festival where he was being ridden some way from home. The extra two furlongs tomorrow will suit him and he only has to shoulder 10st8. I think he's well handicapped and 8s is worth taking.

Nearco · 3rd December 2011, 09:29

Shalimar Frontero is a worthy each way bet in the 2.10 at Aintree over the National fences. This horse is only 5 but had nice novice chase form as a 4yo last year and has already ran twice in France this season suggesting he'll have an edge in fitness over some of these. He's trained by the handler I follow over the jumps and only carries 10st3lbs.

Sizing Europe is a job bet in the Tingle Creek.

lem8sh · 9th December 2011, 16:55

Denman retired

My favorite horse of all time and the horse that got me into racing.
I'm gutted I won't get to see him at Leopardstown was really looking forward to it.

Happy retirement buddy

evra · 9th December 2011, 18:13

Well deserved retirement; wonderful animal.

Nearco · 9th December 2011, 20:07

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Originally Posted by lem8sh

My favorite horse of all time

Same here. I'll never forget the his Hennessy's or his awesome display of power in the 2008 Gold Cup. I cried when I saw the reception he got after finishing second to Long Run last March. Happy retirement.

Medermit worth a bet in the big handicap tomorrow. He's got a fair weight but has decent form against good animals this year and this step up in trip should suit. 10/1 freely available.

Nearco · 25th December 2011, 20:27

Boxing Day Kempton is always my favourite thing about Christmas and tomorrow's card does not disappoint.

In the big race I am very keen on Captain Chris. This horse won the Arkle at Cheltenham back in March despite being outpaced at stages and has been crying out for this sort of trip. Long Run will be a tough nut to crack but he does make the odd mistake and is worth taking on at short odds. What makes my selection such a strong bet is the presence of Kauto Star and Master Minded in the race. I give neither of them much hope - the former was trained for his historic win at Haydock the other week and will not have a fitness advantage this time. The latter has little hope of staying.

In the Novice Chase at 2pm Grands Crus takes on Bob's Worth and Silviniaco Conti. Much as I admire Grands Crus he's 11/8 for this and I don't think he's done enough in his first two starts to justify such a short price and Bob's Worth looks very fairly priced at 11/4. A line through Cue Card suggests he has the beating of Silviniaco Conti and this step up in trip will really suit a horse who won the big staying hurdle for novice hurdlers at Cheltenham. He ran well in his first start over fences and will come on a ton for that.

lem8sh · 25th December 2011, 21:13

I'm a Captain Chris man myself, 7's more than fair and he should be coming into this on the back of winning the Haldon at Exeter. Can't have Masterminded but wouldn't be surprised if Kauto won, he wasn't right at all last year and if anyone can get him back to his peak for this its Nicholls.
I was really impressed with Silviniaco Conti at Wincanton and the flat track and quick ground will be ideal. He wanted a proper trip even last year yet ran some crackers in hot races over 2m particularly behind Menorah and Cue Card at Cheltenham. He's been put away for this and I think he'a big price at 7/2.

Nearco · 25th December 2011, 21:26

Yeah, he's not a bad price as well. Like I said Grands Crus is too short so either of the other two are worthy punts.

evra · 26th December 2011, 11:49

I always bet on Long Run but I've had a small bet on Capt Chris on your recommendations.

evra · 26th December 2011, 15:17

Why do I keep underestimating this horse?

lem8sh · 26th December 2011, 16:09

Today is what makes it the greatest sport in the world

Nearco · 26th December 2011, 23:08

It is. I did my conkers on the race but it was a very uplifting site seeing such a legend recapture past glories.

I'm having a mare this Jumps season but you have to keep lugging on and tomorrow Golden Silver is simply too big a price in the big race at Leopardstown at 1.25
Big Zeb is the rightful favourite but my selection has beaten him in the past and is the price he is because of a disappointing performance first time out. He jumped and travelled like he needed the race that day though and his trainer will have him far fitter for this Grade 1.

Viper KGB · 26th December 2011, 23:10

What else are you thinking for tomorrow Nearco, I'm heading to Leopardstown myself?

Dion · 26th December 2011, 23:35

Kauto ffs

you just can't bet against him... thought Long Run would have been too good for him today but he just doesn't jump well under pressure and Kauto is jumping like a dream. I was 100% certain the Gold Cup would be too far for him (and I'm still reasonably sure Long Runs stamina will prove too much) but now you just never know.

Nearco · 26th December 2011, 23:37

I'm tense about tomorrow. I backed Sprinter Sacre for the Arkle in April and intend to have a big position about him come the Festival. His jumping first time out at Doncaster was unreal at times and I haven't been this excited about a horse since Denman won his first Hennessy. It's not ideal him coming up against Peddlers Cross now as I wanted to fill up at 9/2 and 5s in the new year and if he wins as I expect him to he will be under 2/1 for the race by 2pm. But it is what it is and I think he's worth a bet at 6/4ish for this contest.

lem8sh · 27th December 2011, 01:55

3/1 Long Run for the Gold Cup, fill yer boots lads. Sprinter Sacre was probably the most impressive chasing debutant I think I've ever seen Nearco hope he does the business for you.

Have had my biggest wager of the festive period on Any Currency at 25's for the Welsh National tomorrow so here's hoping.

Viper KGB · 27th December 2011, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Nearco

It is. I did my conkers on the race but it was a very uplifting site seeing such a legend recapture past glories.

I'm having a mare this Jumps season but you have to keep lugging on and tomorrow Golden Silver is simply too big a price in the big race at Leopardstown at 1.25
Big Zeb is the rightful favourite but my selection has beaten him in the past and is the price he is because of a disappointing performance first time out. He jumped and travelled like he needed the race that day though and his trainer will have him far fitter for this Grade 1.

Poor fella looks fucked, that was a really bad fall

lem8sh · 27th December 2011, 13:45

Yep looked very very bad

evra · 27th December 2011, 14:43

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Originally Posted by lem8sh;10931442[B

]3/1 Long Run for the Gold Cup, fill yer boots lads. [/B]Sprinter Sacre was probably the most impressive chasing debutant I think I've ever seen Nearco hope he does the business for you.

Have had my biggest wager of the festive period on Any Currency at 25's for the Welsh National tomorrow so here's hoping.

I've lost a fair bit on him recently, not sure if I can take another disappointment.

lem8sh · 27th December 2011, 17:21

3/1 is huge Evra. Some performance by Sprinter Sacre today Nearco, not surprised the Peddlers camp are considering stepping up in trip.

Nearco · 24th January 2012, 20:07

Festival fever is hotting up with just seven weeks to go and although Jan and Feb are my quietest punting months we have Festival Trails day on Saturday with top novice chaser and RSA fav Grands Crus taking on Diamond Harry, Time for Rupert and Captain Chris. If he wins he will probably take in the Gold Cup. Personally I think it will be tough for him and Captain Chris at around 5/1 is a good bet for this. He's my Gold Cup horse as well.

lem8sh · 24th January 2012, 21:59

I'm a big fan of the horse and backed him in the King George but was quite disappointed with him. I'd have serious doubts about him staying the Gold Cup trip. Looking forward to seeing Broadbackbob in the Neptune trial I think he's the real deal.

Nearco · 25th January 2012, 14:40

To be fair to him they went no pace in the King George and being at the back meant he was in the wrong place when Kauto kicked on. I can't say I'm too confident at the moment as I'm down this season and in large part that's due to overrating last year's novice chasers.

lem8sh · 27th January 2012, 02:57

Nice bet now Nearco with Grand Crus not running

Nearco · 28th January 2012, 23:14

Horrible day. I badly need a good Cheltenham.

At this stage I will be ignoring all second season chasers and i need one or two of the following to score at the Festival:

Simonsig - Supreme
Sprinter Sacre - Arkle. I'm balls deep in this one. Backed him throughout the summer at double figure odds. He's so exciting.
Last Instalment - RSA
Mikael D'Haguenet - World Hurdle (outright and without Big Bucks)
Rubi Light - Ryanair
Mount Belbulben - Albert Bartlett

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12th November 2011, 11:17	#202 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	Disappointing unseat on Cue Card yesterday. That horse needs a better jockey. Couple of bets today. Mon Parrain is worth one in the big race at 2.35. He's a horse of considerable promise who jumped the National fences in April as economically as I can remember any horse ever doing. That economy in jumping is a crucial attribute a horse needs at Cheltenham and whilst he's not a great price I think he could demolish this field today - especially with quite a few of them running outside of the handicap proper. In the 1.55 Nick Williams runs Reve De Sivola. This horse has generally been a disappointment since being a chaser but he was placed in a hot race at the Festival and runs off a similar mark today. 10/1 is very fair.

19th November 2011, 12:08	#203 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 9,108	Long Run today?

19th November 2011, 12:22	#204 (permalink)
Gee Male Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Roy Keane is Damien, the devil incarnate off the film The Omen. He's evil. Even in training. - Ryan Giggs Posts: 2,853	Indian Daudaiae at 12.30

19th November 2011, 12:28	#205 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 22,841	Not sure where to post this, but Boyle Sports are doing a decent promotion this w/e. Open a new account and put a 30 euro bet on something thats 2/1 or greater and you get the brand new Ireland jersey and another 20 euro free bet. Now to find a 2/1 shot.......!

19th November 2011, 15:58	#208 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	Long live the King!!!! Absolute pleasure and joy to witness that, unbelievable.

19th November 2011, 21:03	#209 (permalink)
StuCol101 from the wrong side of the tracks Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Elvis' Garden Posts: 8,839	Kauto Star with a great performance today. Pleasure to watch. Masterminded did well too. Boxing day racing will be interesting.

19th November 2011, 21:43	#211 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	I hope they both turn up but Somersby was gaining on Master Minded towards the end and I don't see the latter staying 3 miles. Kauto was hard trained for this race and today was his day. Long Run actually enhanced his reputation if anything as he needed the run and jumped poorly at times but wasn't beaten far. If I could get 3s I'd lump on him for the Gold Cup. As for Kempton, I'm a big fan of Captain Chris and think he will be special when he takes in a trip. He's a massive danger to the favourite so 7s is a very fair each way price. I can't see him out of the frame. Today was what makes Jump Racing so special. I had my conkers on Diamond Harry and Somersby but wasn't bothered about the money. I've always been a Denman rather than a Kauto man but that was great to watch.

19th November 2011, 22:05	#212 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	I think he might just get away with the trip around Kempton but whether he'll get it well enough to win is another matter. I'm a Denman man myself, now for the Lexus on the 28th of next month I can't wait

19th November 2011, 22:14	#213 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	I'm going to Ireland for that meeting. Had to see Denman jump a fence in person before he retires.

20th November 2011, 21:01	#215 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	I was at Cheltenham when he was beaten by Nicanor in his hurdling days but haven't seen him chasing. I'll PM you my number before I set off.

25th November 2011, 19:04	#216 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	I make Wayward Prince a reasonable each way bet in the 3.10 at Newbury tomorrow. This is one of the big handicaps of the jumps season and it looks a wide open renewal. My selection ran a cracking race in the big 3 mile novice chase at the Cheltenham Festival where he was being ridden some way from home. The extra two furlongs tomorrow will suit him and he only has to shoulder 10st8. I think he's well handicapped and 8s is worth taking.

3rd December 2011, 09:29	#217 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	Shalimar Frontero is a worthy each way bet in the 2.10 at Aintree over the National fences. This horse is only 5 but had nice novice chase form as a 4yo last year and has already ran twice in France this season suggesting he'll have an edge in fitness over some of these. He's trained by the handler I follow over the jumps and only carries 10st3lbs. Sizing Europe is a job bet in the Tingle Creek.

9th December 2011, 16:55	#218 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	Denman retired My favorite horse of all time and the horse that got me into racing. I'm gutted I won't get to see him at Leopardstown was really looking forward to it. Happy retirement buddy

9th December 2011, 18:13	#219 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 9,108	Well deserved retirement; wonderful animal.

25th December 2011, 20:27	#221 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	Boxing Day Kempton is always my favourite thing about Christmas and tomorrow's card does not disappoint. In the big race I am very keen on Captain Chris. This horse won the Arkle at Cheltenham back in March despite being outpaced at stages and has been crying out for this sort of trip. Long Run will be a tough nut to crack but he does make the odd mistake and is worth taking on at short odds. What makes my selection such a strong bet is the presence of Kauto Star and Master Minded in the race. I give neither of them much hope - the former was trained for his historic win at Haydock the other week and will not have a fitness advantage this time. The latter has little hope of staying. In the Novice Chase at 2pm Grands Crus takes on Bob's Worth and Silviniaco Conti. Much as I admire Grands Crus he's 11/8 for this and I don't think he's done enough in his first two starts to justify such a short price and Bob's Worth looks very fairly priced at 11/4. A line through Cue Card suggests he has the beating of Silviniaco Conti and this step up in trip will really suit a horse who won the big staying hurdle for novice hurdlers at Cheltenham. He ran well in his first start over fences and will come on a ton for that.

25th December 2011, 21:13	#222 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	I'm a Captain Chris man myself, 7's more than fair and he should be coming into this on the back of winning the Haldon at Exeter. Can't have Masterminded but wouldn't be surprised if Kauto won, he wasn't right at all last year and if anyone can get him back to his peak for this its Nicholls. I was really impressed with Silviniaco Conti at Wincanton and the flat track and quick ground will be ideal. He wanted a proper trip even last year yet ran some crackers in hot races over 2m particularly behind Menorah and Cue Card at Cheltenham. He's been put away for this and I think he'a big price at 7/2.

25th December 2011, 21:26	#223 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	Yeah, he's not a bad price as well. Like I said Grands Crus is too short so either of the other two are worthy punts.

26th December 2011, 11:49	#224 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 9,108	I always bet on Long Run but I've had a small bet on Capt Chris on your recommendations.

26th December 2011, 15:17	#225 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 9,108	Why do I keep underestimating this horse?

26th December 2011, 16:09	#226 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	Today is what makes it the greatest sport in the world

26th December 2011, 23:08	#227 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	It is. I did my conkers on the race but it was a very uplifting site seeing such a legend recapture past glories. I'm having a mare this Jumps season but you have to keep lugging on and tomorrow Golden Silver is simply too big a price in the big race at Leopardstown at 1.25 Big Zeb is the rightful favourite but my selection has beaten him in the past and is the price he is because of a disappointing performance first time out. He jumped and travelled like he needed the race that day though and his trainer will have him far fitter for this Grade 1.

26th December 2011, 23:10	#228 (permalink)
Viper KGB Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: You know I’m bad. Just last week, I murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalized a brick. I’m so mean, I make medicine sick Posts: 4,043	What else are you thinking for tomorrow Nearco, I'm heading to Leopardstown myself?

26th December 2011, 23:35	#229 (permalink)
Dion Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,450	Kauto ffs you just can't bet against him... thought Long Run would have been too good for him today but he just doesn't jump well under pressure and Kauto is jumping like a dream. I was 100% certain the Gold Cup would be too far for him (and I'm still reasonably sure Long Runs stamina will prove too much) but now you just never know.

26th December 2011, 23:37	#230 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	I'm tense about tomorrow. I backed Sprinter Sacre for the Arkle in April and intend to have a big position about him come the Festival. His jumping first time out at Doncaster was unreal at times and I haven't been this excited about a horse since Denman won his first Hennessy. It's not ideal him coming up against Peddlers Cross now as I wanted to fill up at 9/2 and 5s in the new year and if he wins as I expect him to he will be under 2/1 for the race by 2pm. But it is what it is and I think he's worth a bet at 6/4ish for this contest.

27th December 2011, 01:55	#231 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	3/1 Long Run for the Gold Cup, fill yer boots lads. Sprinter Sacre was probably the most impressive chasing debutant I think I've ever seen Nearco hope he does the business for you. Have had my biggest wager of the festive period on Any Currency at 25's for the Welsh National tomorrow so here's hoping.

27th December 2011, 13:45	#233 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	Yep looked very very bad

27th December 2011, 17:21	#235 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	3/1 is huge Evra. Some performance by Sprinter Sacre today Nearco, not surprised the Peddlers camp are considering stepping up in trip.

24th January 2012, 20:07	#236 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	Festival fever is hotting up with just seven weeks to go and although Jan and Feb are my quietest punting months we have Festival Trails day on Saturday with top novice chaser and RSA fav Grands Crus taking on Diamond Harry, Time for Rupert and Captain Chris. If he wins he will probably take in the Gold Cup. Personally I think it will be tough for him and Captain Chris at around 5/1 is a good bet for this. He's my Gold Cup horse as well.

24th January 2012, 21:59	#237 (permalink)
lem8sh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery Posts: 2,956	I'm a big fan of the horse and backed him in the King George but was quite disappointed with him. I'd have serious doubts about him staying the Gold Cup trip. Looking forward to seeing Broadbackbob in the Neptune trial I think he's the real deal.

25th January 2012, 14:40	#238 (permalink)
Nearco youth team player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 3,151	To be fair to him they went no pace in the King George and being at the back meant he was in the wrong place when Kauto kicked on. I can't say I'm too confident at the moment as I'm down this season and in large part that's due to overrating last year's novice chasers.