Massive controversy at England vs New Zealand ODI.

Nick 0208 Ldn · 25th June 2008, 18:50

Collingwood's position as Captain will come under threat for this.

He should've let it slide, and furthermore was he taken out intentionally? It is certainly being claimed so.

This is from the BBC live text page >>

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Controversy at The Oval! Elliott dabs the ball down in front of him and Mills goes haring down the pitch. Elliott hesitates before crashing into Sidebottom, Bell picks the ball up, throws to the bowler's end and KP whips the bails off... pick the bones out of that. The Kiwis are absolutely fuming up on the balcony, they clearly think that was against the spirit of the game - Elliott was, after all, on the deck clutching his leg when the bails were removed. One thing's for certain, KP's no Paolo Di Canio... that one's going to run and run...

Spoonatov · 25th June 2008, 18:57

Whether he was or he wasn't, Collingwood showed no class at all. I don;t like this 'win at all cost' bullshit. That's definitely not cricket.

Devil_3565 · 25th June 2008, 18:59

what happened?

Nick 0208 Ldn · 25th June 2008, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Spoonov

Whether he was or he wasn't, Collingwood showed no class at all. I don;t like this 'win at all cost' bullshit. That's definitely not cricket.

The umpire even walked up to him apparently and said like "You're not actually going to claim this are you?".

Would we have wanted to win like that?

Collingwood should come out and apolgise pretty sharpish once the game is over.

Red442 · 25th June 2008, 19:03

Reminds me of when Pollock knocked in to Pietersen in the 20/20 world cup, I still believe that was intentional. Haven't seen this incident though, why is it Collingwood who is taking all the blame? I know he's captain and all, but anything specific?

malcolm31337 · 25th June 2008, 19:14

It shouldnt have been out. Simple.

However I dont blame Collingwood, I cant see how he has to make the decision whether to give him out or not!!! The umpire should have stepped in, said 'not out' instead of bottling it.

mehro · 25th June 2008, 20:00

I remember Cronje and Ponting in the past not claiming those.

GiggsysGirl · 25th June 2008, 20:56

Collingwood has apologised and Vettori has accepted it apparently.

Pretty gutting day of cricket all round really.

crappycraperson · 25th June 2008, 23:47

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Originally Posted by mehro

I remember Cronje and Ponting in the past not claiming those.

Dunno about Pointing but I remember Cronje withdrawing the appeal for a similar situation once.

crappycraperson · 25th June 2008, 23:48

NZ players did not shake Collingwood's hands in the end..hehe

Justin · 26th June 2008, 09:22

Justice in the end. Black Caps winning off overthrows on the last ball

Spoonatov · 26th June 2008, 09:44

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Originally Posted by malcolm31337

It shouldnt have been out. Simple.

However I dont blame Collingwood, I cant see how he has to make the decision whether to give him out or not!!! The umpire should have stepped in, said 'not out' instead of bottling it.

By the laws of the game it was out. However, it was against the spirit of cricket. Benson asked Collingwood to withdraw his appeal, but he didn't. And captains have the power to recall batsmen who have been given out. . . so he had enough to time to make the right decision.

SmashedHombre · 26th June 2008, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

Collingwood's position as Captain will come under threat for this.

He should've let it slide, and furthermore was he taken out intentionally? It is certainly being claimed so.

This is from the BBC live text page >>

I can safely say I didn't understand any of that

Cornell · 26th June 2008, 10:30

What a fuck up by England in the end anyway. Justice done.

Vettori gave Collingwood the cold shoulder at the end too.

20le_Solskjaer · 26th June 2008, 15:06

England fucked up and add to that they lost the game

Utd heap · 26th June 2008, 15:11

To be fair Collingwodd came straight out and apologised, Vettori accepted it...

NZ deserved to win it anyway, shame about the contreversy.

ZIDANE · 26th June 2008, 18:43

He's been banned for a few matches due to the slow over rate.

michaelness · 26th June 2008, 18:54

video? what happened?

GiggsysGirl · 27th June 2008, 11:12

fearghal · 18th July 2008, 15:29

Sidebottom's father played for United didn't he? Supposedly shite?

Justin · 18th July 2008, 21:45

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Originally Posted by fearghal

Sidebottom's father played for United didn't he? Supposedly shite?

5th in this list of 50 worst footballers, higher than Prunier. Got to be useless then!

25th June 2008, 18:57	#2 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,264	Whether he was or he wasn't, Collingwood showed no class at all. I don;t like this 'win at all cost' bullshit. That's definitely not cricket.

25th June 2008, 18:59	#3 (permalink)
Devil_3565 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: God's own Country Posts: 1,447	what happened?

25th June 2008, 19:03	#5 (permalink)
Red442 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here> Posts: 1,356	Reminds me of when Pollock knocked in to Pietersen in the 20/20 world cup, I still believe that was intentional. Haven't seen this incident though, why is it Collingwood who is taking all the blame? I know he's captain and all, but anything specific?

25th June 2008, 19:14	#6 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07, 08...09 Posts: 3,687	It shouldnt have been out. Simple. However I dont blame Collingwood, I cant see how he has to make the decision whether to give him out or not!!! The umpire should have stepped in, said 'not out' instead of bottling it.

25th June 2008, 20:00	#7 (permalink)
mehro Has an arse for a face Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 18,977	I remember Cronje and Ponting in the past not claiming those.

25th June 2008, 20:56	#8 (permalink)
GiggsysGirl Mrs Pilkington Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Petite/Arty/Strange? Posts: 19,539	Collingwood has apologised and Vettori has accepted it apparently. Pretty gutting day of cricket all round really.

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crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 10,980	NZ players did not shake Collingwood's hands in the end..hehe

26th June 2008, 09:22	#11 (permalink)
Justin First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 16,121	Justice in the end. Black Caps winning off overthrows on the last ball

26th June 2008, 10:30	#14 (permalink)
Cornell Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney 2000. - Wesley Brown is a national hero. Posts: 4,440	What a fuck up by England in the end anyway. Justice done. Vettori gave Collingwood the cold shoulder at the end too.

26th June 2008, 15:06	#15 (permalink)
20le_Solskjaer Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere...In the midst of our glory Posts: 1,232	England fucked up and add to that they lost the game

26th June 2008, 15:11	#16 (permalink)
Utd heap Last Man Standing (joint) Champion 2008 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: At an away ground near you... Posts: 7,089	To be fair Collingwodd came straight out and apologised, Vettori accepted it... NZ deserved to win it anyway, shame about the contreversy.

26th June 2008, 18:43	#17 (permalink)
ZIDANE Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: "..undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation." Zizou on Scholes Posts: 4,428	He's been banned for a few matches due to the slow over rate.

26th June 2008, 18:54	#18 (permalink)
michaelness Act your rage Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Palace Of Wisdom Posts: 4,809	video? what happened?

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GiggsysGirl Mrs Pilkington Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Petite/Arty/Strange? Posts: 19,539

18th July 2008, 15:29	#20 (permalink)
fearghal Youth Team Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Liverpool's Perch Posts: 397	Sidebottom's father played for United didn't he? Supposedly shite?