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11th October 2009, 23:32
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12th October 2009, 22:25
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ufc 104... predictions
macheda vs rua just have a feeling that hes gonna catch macheda valasquez vs rothwell taibu vs neer stevenson vs fisher johnson vs yoshida have to say i wish the okami fight was on the main card but all in other than the last 2 fights im not all that bothered about the rest of them... good performance from valasquez and he could be next in line to get grounded and pounded by brock... hummm not much of a prize  i think macheda goes in as a big favourite over rua but i actually think rua if anything like his pride days could be a tricky one for macheda... macheda moves so well because he controlls the distance and moves out of the way of punches... rua is so unorthadox (switching kick legs in mid air... stepping through crosses... turning the jab into a lead cross it will be interesting)... i saw a macheda clip where he says he watches his opponents timing then picks it off... problem is rua punches and kicks with broken rythm... i suppose part of me wants rua to win to see if silva would fight him and see if he could hold 2 belts at the same time oh and although 104 looks a little thin 105 is stacked for uk fans 106 looking like a fantastic card 107 looking off the f-ing hook and 108 shaping up v nice as well |
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14th October 2009, 13:59
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My picks:
Macheda vs Shogun Valasquez vs Rothwell Taibu vs Neer Stevenson vs Fisher Johnson vs Yoshida |
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18th October 2009, 15:38
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Sherdog.com MMA Blog: Saturday, October 17, 2009
macheda wants to defend his title 5 times then fight brock lesnar  dont get me wrong... i think macheda is a very good fighter and probably the best lhw overall but is he starting to believe his own hype... I think defending his title 5 times will be difficult... but fighting brock  personally i dont put macheda in my top 5 p4p and i think that he would get smashed by brock (or fedor) lets not forget that macheda almost lost to tito and couldnt stop bj penn when he weighed in 30llbs heavier than bj... some 65lbs above penns best fighting weight!!!!! honestly its stuff like him saying he will defend the title 5 times then fight brock that makes me want rua to catch him |
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19th October 2009, 20:36
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Just watched last weeks TUF. Another shite fight. The standard has been atrocious so far.
Honestly, I look at those guys and don't see anyone that could be a contender at any point in the future. |
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19th October 2009, 20:52
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20th October 2009, 02:38
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He battered Tito. He was partially caught in a sloppy triangle that wasn't ever really likely to cinch in. I think Machida COULD beat Brock. I think it is more likely Brock beats him, but Machida has the quickness and the power to seriously hurt Brock and to finish him off. Brock is completely one dimensional with a very suspect chin. Frank Mir rocked him which Brock admitted to and Frank Mir has only EVER looked like a world beater standing when he battered a half dead staph infection suffering Big N.og. |
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22nd October 2009, 19:08
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Sherdog.com MMA Blog: Thursday, October 22, 2009
macheda is just wrong... honestly thats not right also a gracie has signed for the ufc Sherdog.com MMA Blog: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 |
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22nd October 2009, 19:12
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Never knew he was a pisshead.
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23rd October 2009, 01:31
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24th October 2009, 18:53
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My picks for tonight:
Machida vs Shogun This is an interesting one. Machida is a machine. Shogun is gradually coming back to his best. I'm not sure about this one but I presume Machida is odds on. I'm going to go with Shogun. I think Shogun could knock him out. Shogun won't be easy to knock out either. It could be a long one. Just to be different, Rua. Valasquez vs Rothwell Rothwell is a big man but Velasquez is a rising star and needs to win if he wants a quick shot at Lesnar. I think he'll beat him in a horrible fight. Taibu vs Neer Neer, close one though Stevenson vs Fisher Another close one. I fancy Stevenson for this one, simply because he is due a good performance especially after losing a couple. He is very experienced whilst still being so young. Johnson vs Yoshida I like Johnson. Everytime I see him, he really impresses me. Great athlete. Johnson pour moi. |
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24th October 2009, 21:38
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I wasn't going to watch this fight for some reason (
), but a friend is getting it and has tempted me with a few cases of brew.Macheda Velasquez Stevenson Johnson I hope EZee's not right on the title fight ... you're picks are usually money.
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25th October 2009, 06:26
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I think Shogun was on the money with the counters but Lyoto had more overall, with the strikes and the knees and the kicks. In terms of pure damage shogun hands down. It was a fight afterwards that I could have seen going eitherway, as In I would have given it to either man by a point.
In the end shogun probably did edge it (just), but its going to make for a hell of a rematch. |
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25th October 2009, 06:54
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Shogun got fucking robbed. After the fight, even Dana walks up to Shogun in the ring and mouths "I think you won that fight". Shogun better get a rematch to rightfully claim what belongs to him.
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25th October 2009, 10:48
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Surprising result in the Machida/Shogun fight although if you listen to Rogan and Goldberg then you'd think that Shogun ran away with it. I thought Shogun was clearly the aggressor in 1 and 2. Lyoto definitely took round three. Round 4 was strange in that Lyoto fell, but didn't really have a clear winner for me. Round 5 looked like Shogun was once again the aggressor, but again, given Machida's lazy, unorthodox style, it may have appeared that Shogun won it despite not actually landing more shots than Machida. I would've edged it to Shogun, but in the end, there seems to be a threshold of having to win decisively in order to unseed a Champion, and the fact that all of the judges had it unanimously in favor of Lyoto tells me that they saw a different fight than the announcers.
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25th October 2009, 13:16
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Well, looks like we got a rematch on our hands folks
 Dana white said in the post-conference that shogun won the fight and both fighters have agreed to a rematch. I felt so bad for shogun at the end when they showed him clutching his hands to his face and he was crying. That is so heart-breaking. Bust your ass for three months. Come back from TWO reconstructed knee's, a broken arm just to have the belt literally just taken away from you. He must feel so shit at the moment. One fighter will be mentally distraught while the other will be in physical pain. Good luck to machida recuperating from those devastating kicks from shogun. |
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25th October 2009, 15:27
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Can somebody please explain to me how the fuck macheda won 3 rounds??? please anybody... ive just watched the replay and i can not for the life of me see how you could score that to macheda look at the stats for fucks sake Machida-Shogun how the fuck can they give that decision and keep their jobs???? |
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25th October 2009, 16:34
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25th October 2009, 23:14
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Fightmetric means jack and shit. In fact I would argue that the most incompetent thing about this fight were the people recording fight metric for it. Apparently every time Shogun threw one of his 40+ counter leg kicks, they completely missed the corresponding straight right or left which usually landed, with power, that initiated the exchange. Perhaps they were listening to the broadcast and Rogan and Goldie spontaneously ejaculating every time Shogun moved. I'll tell you why Shogun lost rounds 1 and 2. Every time Machida landed his usual straight left, and even when Shogun countered it with a body kick, he LOOKED stunned. Not hurt but staggered and off balance. That gives the impression of a damage inflicting shot. Overall I felt it was a fair decision and I wouldn't have been shocked had Shogun gotten the nod. This is a fight where the only plausible outcome is a rematch because it posed more questions than it answered. |
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26th October 2009, 19:25
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the growing Uk presence in the UFC...
with ufc 105 now only a few weeks away and waantinng to look at something other than sohgun being robbed i started to look at the fights for uk fighters coming up and it showed me what a marked difference things were to just a few years ago... it could reasonably be argued that untill recently the most famous uk ufc fight actually took place in a car park when lee murray ko'd tito... That was probably eclipsed by Bispings recent fight and I am sure he is looking at his next figt and thinking if only he had not spent all his last fight trying to circle into a haymaker before achieving it in rather dramatic style... he could have been looking at the possibility of coming out to a home crowd fighting for a world title against possibly the best p4p mma fighter of all time but instead he is facing a very imortant fight where he needs to properly establish himself at 185lbs... Dan Hardy finds himself in a similar position to bisping in his previous fight where is is slightly the underdog but could be one good punch from a world title fight... against somebody else who can make a claim to be the top p4p in the world right now... And lets not forget another great brittish performance with one of the best ufc debuts i have ever seen when paul daley took ahold of his opportunity and proceded to batter kampman with it... with his next fight against condit at ufc 108 another win would firmly establish daley in the top 10 and have him maybee a fight or 2 from a title shot himself. to me though it is the depth on the uk card at 105 that shows the true rise of uk ufc fighters Wilkes and Pearson fresh from their success on TUF have a real opportunity to establish themselves... they are on the main card and a big finish to a fight should guarantee them another main event fight and a chance to clium the ladder. If they can keep their nerve on their proper ufc debut both have winable fights completing the tuf crew we have oscizspack and another rough house member in andre winner... and lets not forget to add to that we have terry etim fighting who joined the ufc at 21 and imo is a vastly underated fighter... has great submissions and some very elegant striking... still only 24 with 6 ufc fights under his belt and a couple of good performances could get him noticed in a very competative division... but still young enough and talented enough to clim up the ranks. paul kelly has dropped a weight and in truth he looks in a lot better shape... add to that the all english fight of ufc old hand taylor (6 ufc fights) against the undefeated hathaway and all in all its looking like a great night for the brits!!!! (though al turk seems to being set up for a fall with his fight with gracie next year... kongo, cro cop and gracie is a tough 3 fights and from a marketing point of view i dont think he was wanted (or expected) to win any of them) any way predictions... im going all patriotic Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera (well captain america is patriotic) Mike Swick vs. Dan Hardy (deffinatley a big step up for dan though) Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang James Wilks vs. Matt Brown Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley Preliminary Card Terry Etim vs. Shannon Gugerty Paul Taylor vs. John Hathaway Nick Osipczak vs. Matthew Riddle Paul Kelly vs. Dennis Siver Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jared Hamman (european init) Andre Winner vs. Rolando Delgado all in all the brits look to have a firm foothold in the ufc which should bring more fights over here... i suspect a few might be sent to sydney for the ufc over there as well... we all know the aussies love a good old pom bashing |
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26th October 2009, 20:10
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This kind of thing makes me doubt the validity of some of the results in the UFC. Certain fighters seem to be preferred. For example, Bisping was allowed win against Hamill when they fought in England. The majority of non biased people were adamant that Hamill clearly won it. Anyway, Shogun was clearly robbed. He definitely won rounds 1, 4 and 5. 2 was his also. 3 was probably his as well. At most, Machida won the last minute of round 3. Shogun dominated the fight. What do they say the scoring is based on? Octogon control, effective strikes and takedowns. There were no takedowns really, but Rua controlled the Octogon and was far more successful when it came to striking. It was an absolute disgrace. |
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26th October 2009, 20:21
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26th October 2009, 22:22
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i think they should make macheda fight shogun then... proper thai style... just enough time to start recovering then back in the ring... |
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27th October 2009, 18:20
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Finally got to see Machida vs Rua.
Where the fuck do they get these judges?? Incredibly bad decision, that's a fact, not an opinion. I've since read some Machida fanbois trying to defend the decision, but it's not possible imo, fucking terrible decision. Quote:
I agree, which makes it even harder on Shogun. Shogun got it tactically spot on, easily deserved to win the fight and now not only is he not the champion but he has another loss on his record and has to wait for a rematch where he has to beat Machida for the second time in a row. |
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28th October 2009, 02:50
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28th October 2009, 18:22
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Johnson vs. Kos is slated for 106 now as the co-main event
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28th October 2009, 19:22
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lil *** and cane is apparently on the card as well... and lil *** is a very good fighter... certainly not far behind the macheda and shogun level... all in all a strong division with macheda and shogun, evans and griffin, now they have lil *** and cane is on a good run... silva is a good fighter and obviousley randy is now back at 205 with vera... plus tito is back as well add to that anderson silva and who knows about jackson but thats a good division franklin and belfort could both do well in that division as well but i think they will both end up in mw (especially if a silva moves up)... and i hope the ufc get moussai as no1 i **** he could go against anybody in that division and give them a super tough fight... and no2 because if they get moussai they will surely get fedor as well... |
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31st October 2009, 17:05
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Really funny episode of TUF.
Rampages impersonation of Rashad getting ko'ed vs Machida  I nearly spat my tea out. 
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31st October 2009, 22:22
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By the way, did you hear about Machida being out indefinitely? He's on 60day medical suspension (with 30days of no-contact) and will have surgery on his hand. I don't know how long indefinitely is, but if it ends up being 9 months to a year, we might be looking at an interim title possibly. What you think? |
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31st October 2009, 22:35
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with silva and macheda being friends it has that element... silva going for a title (albeit interim) at 2 weights... it makes a lot of sense but just because it makes sense does not mean it will happen with the ufc! Anyway shogun should be champion anyway so if they have an interim (and unification fights are good box office so it makes sence) then he will have to be one fighter... I think A silva would be favourite to be the other fighter but lil no.g if he wins or if they sign moussai they would have a fair claim to deserve it as well... the winner of jackson evens would have been an obvious contender as well but rampange has thrown a spanner in that... perhaos its an excuse so macheda can try to lern how to defend thai kicks (something i pointed out after he won the title saying even jardine would gibe him problems because in and out movement always struggles against the latteral attack!) |
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