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EspadaYdaga · 17th April 2008, 20:28

he had missing time and he didn't know what happened

RedCanadian · 17th April 2008, 20:31

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Originally Posted by EspadaYdaga

he had missing time and he didn't know what happened

I couldn't help but laugh, when he was asking if he had a fight and whether it was a "real" fight or practice...

EspadaYdaga · 17th April 2008, 20:36

i was trying not to laugh.... i felt kinda sorry for him really

Name Changed · 17th April 2008, 20:36

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Originally Posted by RedCanadian

That was pretty weird!!

Big time. After watching the first episode, Quinton Jackson is growing on me. I didn't really take to him before that. Can't wait for Jackson Forrest fight although I think Jackson would beat him handy.

RedCanadian · 18th April 2008, 17:21

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Originally Posted by weso26

Big time. After watching the first episode, Quinton Jackson is growing on me. I didn't really take to him before that. Can't wait for Jackson Forrest fight although I think Jackson would beat him handy.

I agree with that.

EspadaYdaga · 18th April 2008, 19:23

i don't know about that... forest is great at raising his game... look what he did to that ninja or shogun guy last time.

USDevil · 20th April 2008, 05:29

Good shit from Bisping, Franklin and GSP. Weak fight on the Quarry fight, that Canadian kid kept running from him.

Danny Meehan · 21st April 2008, 03:07

I thought that after the fight, Serra was going to say he is dropping to a lower weight class. There is now way he can come close to GSP.

RedCanadian · 21st April 2008, 03:25

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Originally Posted by EspadaYdaga

i don't know about that... forest is great at raising his game... look what he did to that ninja or shogun guy last time.

Shogun blew out his ACL half way through the first round. Although Forest fought a great fight and Shogun had zero cardio in that fight.

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Originally Posted by USDevil

Good shit from Bisping, Franklin and GSP. Weak fight on the Quarry fight, that Canadian kid kept running from him.

Starnes was a joke. It was almost embarrassing watching that fight knowing he was Canadian.

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Originally Posted by Danny Meehan

I thought that after the fight, Serra was going to say he is dropping to a lower weight class. There is now way he can come close to GSP.

He's going to fight Hughes before that happens.

ecantona7 · 21st April 2008, 03:54

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Originally Posted by RedCanadian

Starnes was a joke. It was almost embarrassing watching that fight knowing he was Canadian.

What do you mean almost embarrasing? The guy is a fucking joke to us canadians.

On a side note, good fight from Rich. I was watching the post fight with john mccarthy and randy cotoure and there was talk of GSP maybe, again maybe moving up to face silva. How do you think that would go?

EspadaYdaga · 21st April 2008, 09:42

Gsp was awesome again.... serra got a pounding man

Swerny · 21st April 2008, 18:19

yes GSP!

EspadaYdaga · 21st April 2008, 18:23

each time i see gsp fight, the gap in ability between him and everyone else just keeps getting bigger and bigger

Name Changed · 22nd April 2008, 00:35

It was a good night for UFC fans.

George St Pierre v Matt Serra

GSP looked awesome against Matt Serra. He showed why he is (in my opinion) the second best pound for pound fighter in the UFC behind Anderson Silva. He changed his game taking down Serra easily over and over again and showing great ground & pound. He totally dominated Serra and showed that Serra's last victory was a fluke.

I'm not really a fan of Serra. He is all talk and very little action. I can see him moving down a weight. He is nothing compared to GSP. He showed great class at the end of the fight which I didn't think he had. He needs to win his next fight.

Rich Franklin v Travis Lutter

Frankin was tremendous. He totally dominated Lutter. He was badly caught in an armbar but an amazing counter got him out of it. His cardio was far better than Lutter and that was what won it for him. What is next for him? Another shot at Silva? I can't see him winning that one. Ace is probably the second best middleweight in the world but isn't near Silva's class.

Travis Lutter - for fuck sake this guy should get on a treadmill now and again. He obviously does no aerobic training at all. All his big talk counted for nothing. His record in the ufc was 2-3. That is not good. He reckons Anderson Silva will never beat him again. I think he's right. He will probably never get a chance to fight Silva again. I'd like to see him fight Yushin Okami. He would really have to improve his cardio for that.

Michael Bisping v Charles McCarthy

Bisping looked great. Middleweight is obviously the weight for him. He totally outclassed Charles McCarthy. There is nothing else to say about it. Maybe a fight against Franklin will be on the cards.

I was very disappointed with McCarthy. Although "The Count" was dominating him, he didn't even defend himself towards the end. I don't think he is cut out for the top dogs of ufc.

Nate Quarry v Kalib Starnes

Quarry looked great considering it was his first fight in 2 years. His leg kicks were almost Jardinesque. The only disappointment was that he didn't knock out Starnes. He certainly deserved to.

What the hell is Kalib Starnes even doing in the ufc? He ran around the cage like a frightened kitten. Even the Canadian fans were booing him. They were right. Why bother fighting in the ufc if you are just going to run away? One of the judges actually scored it 30-24. That's 10-8 in every round. I have never seen anybody so emphatically beaten on a decision.

Mac Denzig v Mark Bocek

A good fight that Denzig deserved to win. He was especially good in the second round. He doesn't have much charisma though which may lead to him not getting big fights within the UFC.

Bocek did ok. He probably won the first round. He will come back even stronger.

UFC 84 is next on 24th May. Penn v Sherk. I'm really looking forward to the Machida Ortiz fight. That could be fight of the night.

RedCanadian · 22nd April 2008, 04:24

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Originally Posted by ecantona7

What do you mean almost embarrasing? The guy is a fucking joke to us canadians.

On a side note, good fight from Rich. I was watching the post fight with john mccarthy and randy cotoure and there was talk of GSP maybe, again maybe moving up to face silva. How do you think that would go?

Rush is a big WW, but would be a mid-size MW. I would imagine that GSP would repeatedly take him down over and over as his takedowns are basically impossible to stop. If he gets him on the mat then his speed would have a chance to take over. However, if the fight stays standing Spider would decimate him as he has everyone else who tried to stand with him.

I don't think their's any reason for Rush to move up though as he has still never even defended his title. 3 or 4 title defences and then I would expect it to happen.

Name Changed · 22nd April 2008, 09:52

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Originally Posted by RedCanadian

Rush is a big WW, but would be a mid-size MW. I would imagine that GSP would repeatedly take him down over and over as his takedowns are basically impossible to stop. If he gets him on the mat then his speed would have a chance to take over. However, if the fight stays standing Spider would decimate him as he has everyone else who tried to stand with him.

I don't think their's any reason for Rush to move up though as he has still never even defended his title. 3 or 4 title defences and then I would expect it to happen.

Would he bother though? He wouldn't be a big man in mw. Would the mw title be seen as a bigger title that the ww title? He'd look very small against the likes of Bisping.

RedCanadian · 23rd April 2008, 04:22

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Originally Posted by weso26

Would he bother though? He wouldn't be a big man in mw. Would the mw title be seen as a bigger title that the ww title? He'd look very small against the likes of Bisping.

I would guess that him moving up might not be his choice, but a certain bald and annoying guy in a position of power's choice...

Pogue Mahone · 23rd April 2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by weso26

Mac Denzig v Mark Bocek

A good fight that Denzig deserved to win. He was especially good in the second round. He doesn't have much charisma though which may lead to him not getting big fights within the UFC.

I rate Denzig. Stays really composed and doesn't have any obvious weakness. That Canadian kid fought a great fight and could easily have caused an upset. I would wager that Denzig will be getting a title-shot in the not too distant future.

Name Changed · 24th April 2008, 07:59

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I rate Denzig. Stays really composed and doesn't have any obvious weakness. That Canadian kid fought a great fight and could easily have caused an upset. I would wager that Denzig will be getting a title-shot in the not too distant future.

He is a good fighter. A very good fighter. I would be worried though that his lack of charisma would stop him getting his chances. People like BJ Penn will always get title shots because they are popular and it would make more money for the UFC. Penn v Sherk will always make a lot more money that Danzig v Sherk. I know it's a cynical thought but the UFC is a business when it comes down to it and they will always want to make as much money as possible from a ppv. I hope Danzig gets a chance to fight some top oppostion though. I think he could do some serious damage.

Pogue Mahone · 24th April 2008, 08:54

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Originally Posted by weso26

He is a good fighter. A very good fighter. I would be worried though that his lack of charisma would stop him getting his chances. People like BJ Penn will always get title shots because they are popular and it would make more money for the UFC. Penn v Sherk will always make a lot more money that Danzig v Sherk. I know it's a cynical thought but the UFC is a business when it comes down to it and they will always want to make as much money as possible from a ppv. I hope Danzig gets a chance to fight some top oppostion though. I think he could do some serious damage.

I think he has some charisma, they just need to promote him in the right way. He was one of the most interesting characters in the Ultimate Fighter series - he seems unusually articulate and intelligent - and the whole Vegan/buddhist tip he's on is quite interesting for someone who makes a living out of beating the shit out of people.

I'll shut up now, I'm starting to sounds worryingly like a fan-boy...

RedCanadian · 24th April 2008, 14:38

The thing about Danzig is before he was on the Ultimate Fighter he had fought in Pride numerous times, was the KOTC champ, had fought world champions, etc. He was always going to win that competition and that was up a weight class. He will be a force in the LW division.

EspadaYdaga · 27th April 2008, 13:39

whens the next ufc

is it penn - sherk?

USDevil · 28th April 2008, 19:11

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Originally Posted by EspadaYdaga

whens the next ufc

is it penn - sherk?

Yeah. With Ortiz vs. Machida and Wanderlai Silva vs. Jardine.

Starnes was kicked out the UFC after that fight. He claims now that he broke his foot on the first kick of the fight.

Pogue Mahone · 28th April 2008, 20:28

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Originally Posted by USDevil

Yeah. With Ortiz vs. Machida and Wanderlai Silva vs. Jardine.

Starnes was kicked out the UFC after that fight. He claims now that he broke his foot on the first kick of the fight.

If Wayne Rooney could have run that fast with a broken foot we would have won the league weeks ago.

RedCanadian · 29th April 2008, 02:27

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

If Wayne Rooney could have run that fast with a broken foot we would have won the league weeks ago.

Starnes is full of shit.....

USDevil · 1st May 2008, 17:03

Is anyone else drooling over the Rampage vs. Forrest fight? Everytime I watch TUF I can't wait.

Swerny · 1st May 2008, 22:02

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Originally Posted by USDevil

Is anyone else drooling over the Rampage vs. Forrest fight? Everytime I watch TUF I can't wait.

Rampage will kill Forrest.

Red_devil_ · 1st May 2008, 22:12

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Originally Posted by MS MSP

Rampage will kill Forrest.

I don't think so I'm a huge Forrest fan ....look at what Forrest guys are doing to Team Rampage

Even squeaky Dante won over that Hulk of a Brandon

RedCanadian · 2nd May 2008, 01:20

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Originally Posted by Red_devil_

I don't think so I'm a huge Forrest fan ....look at what Forrest guys are doing to Team Rampage

Even squeaky Dante won over that Hulk of a Brandon

Rampage will win....

17th April 2008, 20:28	#481 (permalink)
EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	he had missing time and he didn't know what happened

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EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	i was trying not to laugh.... i felt kinda sorry for him really

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EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	i don't know about that... forest is great at raising his game... look what he did to that ninja or shogun guy last time.

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USDevil Soldier of Fortune Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Too close to Mexico, too far from a decent pub. Posts: 5,418	Good shit from Bisping, Franklin and GSP. Weak fight on the Quarry fight, that Canadian kid kept running from him.

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Danny Meehan Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 3596 miles West of OT Posts: 672	I thought that after the fight, Serra was going to say he is dropping to a lower weight class. There is now way he can come close to GSP.

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EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	Gsp was awesome again.... serra got a pounding man

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Swerny Poster originally known MS MSP Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,649	yes GSP!

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EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	each time i see gsp fight, the gap in ability between him and everyone else just keeps getting bigger and bigger

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 4,517	It was a good night for UFC fans. George St Pierre v Matt Serra GSP looked awesome against Matt Serra. He showed why he is (in my opinion) the second best pound for pound fighter in the UFC behind Anderson Silva. He changed his game taking down Serra easily over and over again and showing great ground & pound. He totally dominated Serra and showed that Serra's last victory was a fluke. I'm not really a fan of Serra. He is all talk and very little action. I can see him moving down a weight. He is nothing compared to GSP. He showed great class at the end of the fight which I didn't think he had. He needs to win his next fight. Rich Franklin v Travis Lutter Frankin was tremendous. He totally dominated Lutter. He was badly caught in an armbar but an amazing counter got him out of it. His cardio was far better than Lutter and that was what won it for him. What is next for him? Another shot at Silva? I can't see him winning that one. Ace is probably the second best middleweight in the world but isn't near Silva's class. Travis Lutter - for fuck sake this guy should get on a treadmill now and again. He obviously does no aerobic training at all. All his big talk counted for nothing. His record in the ufc was 2-3. That is not good. He reckons Anderson Silva will never beat him again. I think he's right. He will probably never get a chance to fight Silva again. I'd like to see him fight Yushin Okami. He would really have to improve his cardio for that. Michael Bisping v Charles McCarthy Bisping looked great. Middleweight is obviously the weight for him. He totally outclassed Charles McCarthy. There is nothing else to say about it. Maybe a fight against Franklin will be on the cards. I was very disappointed with McCarthy. Although "The Count" was dominating him, he didn't even defend himself towards the end. I don't think he is cut out for the top dogs of ufc. Nate Quarry v Kalib Starnes Quarry looked great considering it was his first fight in 2 years. His leg kicks were almost Jardinesque. The only disappointment was that he didn't knock out Starnes. He certainly deserved to. What the hell is Kalib Starnes even doing in the ufc? He ran around the cage like a frightened kitten. Even the Canadian fans were booing him. They were right. Why bother fighting in the ufc if you are just going to run away? One of the judges actually scored it 30-24. That's 10-8 in every round. I have never seen anybody so emphatically beaten on a decision. Mac Denzig v Mark Bocek A good fight that Denzig deserved to win. He was especially good in the second round. He doesn't have much charisma though which may lead to him not getting big fights within the UFC. Bocek did ok. He probably won the first round. He will come back even stronger. UFC 84 is next on 24th May. Penn v Sherk. I'm really looking forward to the Machida Ortiz fight. That could be fight of the night.

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RedCanadian RatCat freak Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: "In the offseason, my mustache drives the Firebird, I ride shotgun" - RATCAT Posts: 11,186	The thing about Danzig is before he was on the Ultimate Fighter he had fought in Pride numerous times, was the KOTC champ, had fought world champions, etc. He was always going to win that competition and that was up a weight class. He will be a force in the LW division.

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EspadaYdaga Inbred Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wu Dang mountain Posts: 9,427	whens the next ufc is it penn - sherk?

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USDevil Soldier of Fortune Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Too close to Mexico, too far from a decent pub. Posts: 5,418	Is anyone else drooling over the Rampage vs. Forrest fight? Everytime I watch TUF I can't wait.

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RedCanadian RatCat freak Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: "In the offseason, my mustache drives the Firebird, I ride shotgun" - RATCAT Posts: 11,186