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Old 7th February 2012, 11:51   #441 (permalink)
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Old 6th April 2012, 23:23   #442 (permalink)
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Interesting view from the US on the Daily Mail- is a long article so won't cut and paste it.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all
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Old 6th April 2012, 23:28   #443 (permalink)
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My mate just got a job working on the "current affairs" desk at the Mail. I like to tell him he's part of an evil machine now.

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Old 6th April 2012, 23:41   #444 (permalink)
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A mate I used to work with recently moved from their personal finance desk onto the business desk. He is pretty liberal- just a decent job and pretty well paid with a few nice perks thrown in.
It's definitely a misconception that most of the journos that work there actually believe the bile they spew out.
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Old 6th April 2012, 23:58   #445 (permalink)
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A mate I used to work with recently moved from their personal finance desk onto the business desk. He is pretty liberal- just a decent job and pretty well paid with a few nice perks thrown in.
It's definitely a misconception that most of the journos that work there actually believe the bile they spew out.
Oh definitely. And he would fall into that category too. I know he did have a pretty strong wrestle with his conscience before taking the job, but to be fair, if you're in the field of journalism, and one of the most hit websites on the planet gives you column inches, you'd have to be fairly strong-willed to turn it down.

I despise the paper. But would jump at the chance to work on their sport desk.
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Old 7th April 2012, 00:02   #446 (permalink)
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Oh definitely. And he would fall into that category too. I know he did have a pretty strong wrestle with his conscience before taking the job, but to be fair, if you're in the field of journalism, and one of the most hit websites on the planet gives you column inches, you'd have to be fairly strong-willed to turn it down.

I despise the paper. But would jump at the chance to work on their sport desk.
My mate used to work on the same trade mag as me and when he moved to the Mail he pretty much had to burn half of the contacts who got him that job cos the Mail's stance was that all life companies were evil.
Yep, I would happily work on their personal finance desk- it does a lot of good campaigning work exposing bad practice etc...but there is obviously a lot about the paper to hate. That New Yorker article is right though- the website is strangely compelling, even if just to laugh at the reader comments.
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I love the New Yorker piece quoting Esquire's verdict on the DM- 'it's like your purse-lipped mother-in-law'
So true (more so for my missus but that's a different story).
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Old 7th April 2012, 01:18   #448 (permalink)
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Interesting view from the US on the Daily Mail- is a long article so won't cut and paste it.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all
I cannot remember the last time I enjoyed an article so much, I laughed out loud at points.
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Old 7th April 2012, 02:16   #449 (permalink)
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I cannot remember the last time I enjoyed an article so much, I laughed out loud at points.
Yep was pointed out to me by a leftie colleague- love the bit about our tabloids being 'beserk and shouty' and it is a clinical dissection of the paper. Their columnists range from 'sensible to unhinged'. Interesting insight into Paul Dacre too- the carrier bag in a tree story etc...
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Sorry- one last reference to that article. Some lefties hate the DM so much that they set up some kind of proxy site so that liberals could browse it without giving them more traffic
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Old 7th April 2012, 04:53   #451 (permalink)
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That Dacre bloke sound clinically insane.
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Old 10th April 2012, 18:15   #452 (permalink)
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The Daily Mail are being the Daily Mail again.

The front page story on their website is 'Britain's hardest working Dad' decided to leave the United Kingdom with his wife and 12 children.

The story bangs on about how things are difficult here, how there are no short or long term prospects and that they are leaving for Australia. This guy has no overtly special skills, he has no job lined up yet the Daily Mail glosses over that and the fact Australia has a reputation for being especially strict on immigration.

For a newspaper that likes to pride itself in patriotism it does know how to put a negative spin on everything. What makes it especially hilarious is if an Australian family with 12 kids, with the father going from job to job without specialised qualifications brought them to the United Kingdom with no job lined up they would have a front page story ridiculing them and ridiculing us - such a family goes the other way and still they ridicule us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...home-grim.html
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For all of you people who are against the Daily Mail you sure know a lot about it's contents! hmmmmmm
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Old 10th April 2012, 22:14   #454 (permalink)
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For all of you people who are against the Daily Mail you sure know a lot about it's contents! hmmmmmm
I am not 'against' it, its stance on many things annoy me.

Though I read all the newspapers here on at least a semi-regular basis, to test my views of affairs and breakout of the reinforcement theory of reading articles aligned to your own stance.
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For all of you people who are against the Daily Mail you sure know a lot about it's contents! hmmmmmm
Surely that's the best reason to be against anything?
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The story bangs on about how things are difficult here, how there are no short or long term prospects and that they are leaving for Australia. This guy has no overtly special skills, he has no job lined up yet the Daily Mail glosses over that and the fact Australia has a reputation for being especially strict on immigration.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...home-grim.html
I'd like to tell you how easy it was for my Dutch brother in law and his then Non working Chinese wife, to get Australian Citizenships and Passports

But i wont, because then you might realise what you wrote is nonsense

I too have no special skills and am doing 10 times better than i would be in the UK
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Old 12th April 2012, 11:07   #457 (permalink)
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Old 12th April 2012, 11:52   #458 (permalink)
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I am not 'against' it, its stance on many things annoy me.

Though I read all the newspapers here on at least a semi-regular basis, to test my views of affairs and breakout of the reinforcement theory of reading articles aligned to your own stance.
I like doing that too. But not with The Daily Mail. It has nothing to teach me.
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I'd like to tell you how easy it was for my Dutch brother in law and his then Non working Chinese wife, to get Australian Citizenships and Passports

But i wont, because then you might realise what you wrote is nonsense

I too have no special skills and am doing 10 times better than i would be in the UK

That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone comment that Australia is easy to get into, all previous reports and examples I have heard is of how difficult it is if you are not on the required skills shortages list.
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That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone comment that Australia is easy to get into, all previous reports and examples I have heard is of how difficult it is if you are not on the required skills shortages list.
This will be the second time then. You can get into any country in the world if you have the know how.
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That is the first time I have ever heard of anyone comment that Australia is easy to get into, all previous reports and examples I have heard is of how difficult it is if you are not on the required skills shortages list.
You listen to the wrong reports, something you confirm with a lot of posts
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You listen to the wrong reports, something you confirm with a lot of posts
Just because I hear of one doesn't mean I change my position.
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Just because I hear of one doesn't mean I change my position.
No, i'm sure of that

Unless it's coupled with a stat, favours your bias and comes from a favoured source
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Old 21st April 2012, 13:22   #464 (permalink)
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Old 24th April 2012, 18:21   #466 (permalink)
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I hate all the animal cruelty stories that they put up. That stuff turns my stomach and I never read them, but they always put up lurid headlines and photos which give me the gist of what happened.
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Old 24th April 2012, 20:36   #467 (permalink)
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Typical persecuted little Englanders sucked right into the comments of this story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ffensive.html#

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So wait just a minute......They are happy to ban children's books. Books which really would cause no long term damage and are helping children to read......Yet they are not concerned about banning video games that involve highly gratuitous violence?!?
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Although its ok, once they reach 11 to give them a laptop in their bed room; with full internet access.
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Oh didums...yet another story about children and how everyone must bow down to their protection. Those who do not have children have to suffer this constant barrage of tosh about other peoples precious children. Why don't the parents exercise more control over their own offspring instead of looking at laws to control them?
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You can have free speech and read what you want, BUT only if they agree with it. Looks like it's true, if you have a big fat mouth then you can censure everybody.
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what the hell is this country coming to!! I read these books when i was younger and i do not have a problem with my children reading them. Personally i think its the parents looking too much into it, they will be top shelf reading soon!
And what heinous assault on out literary liberties are these people so outraged about? Well apparently "A survey of 98 library authorities took in more than 300 complaints from the last five years about 'unsuitable, inappropriate or offensive' works. Half of them were about children's books."

So that'd be 150 complaints about childrens books over 5 years to 98 authorities... 0.3 complaints per authority per year. Apparently there are 208 Library Authorities in the UK with a total of around 4,500 libraries - an average of around 22 per authority. So that'd be 0.01 complaints per library per year. What a sinister, leftie, PC brigade plot! It'll not be long until all our kids are permitted to read is the Communist Manifesto.

This guy has also done his maths:

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There is no evidence that the books are harmful. They are full of excitement and adventure so why remove them. Kids will spend even more time online or sat in front of the telly. Just a tiny handful of misguided activists are complaining. 300 complaints in 5 years across 98 libraries is not significant. That is about 6 complaints per year per library??? The minority view is being taken by some anti-everything dimwit PC committe. This dictatorial attitude creeping into our everyday lives sanitising and controlling us must be stamped out.
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Old 25th April 2012, 18:11   #468 (permalink)
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Old 25th April 2012, 19:20   #469 (permalink)
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