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Old 7th May 2004, 02:08   #1 (permalink)
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global peace = ban all religions

9 out of 10 wars/conflicts are due to religion.

ban em all i say.

religion is a weak concept, only used by people who have no self-convidence and no moral. For lack of a better word, i call them cowards.

Kill a person and then get forgiveness in a church/mosque

No responsibily for their actions..

i have more "respect" for a normal drugland murder then for a religious attack.

fucking cowards
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Old 7th May 2004, 02:45   #2 (permalink)
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World without religions does not mean that there will be peace. All that is bad in the world today will continue to exist as long as human beings live on earth.
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Old 7th May 2004, 04:58   #3 (permalink)
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I'd love to get rid of all religion.

I'd like to hear how it could be done though.
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Old 7th May 2004, 07:54   #4 (permalink)
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The process of eliminating religion would cause more death and destruction than having it. There are millions who are indoctrinated in it from the most impressionable early childhood years. Religion will eventually become obsolete, but that wont yet happen for a hundred years or so IMO.
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Old 7th May 2004, 09:44   #5 (permalink)
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YOU SAID ---9 out of 10 wars/conflicts are due to religion.

Please provide data I can check which confirms your assertion.

YOU SAID---religion is a weak concept, only used by people who have no self-convidence and no moral. For lack of a better word, i call them cowards.

Marting Luther King, Mother Theresa, Gandhi. Cowards, no morals?

YOU SAID---Kill a person and then get forgiveness in a church/mosque

This is not how it works. Only God can offer forgiveness.

YOU SAID---No responsibily for their actions..

Not true

YOU SAID---i have more "respect" for a normal drugland murder then for a religious attack.

Your choice. Murder is murder.

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Old 7th May 2004, 10:15   #6 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with adhering to a philosophy or having a little faith in something we can't touch or see, but instead, simply believe in. I don't really subscribe to those things...but that's neither here nor there. It's the leadership & the structures of these organized religions that are to blame. I think the last thing they have in mind are the teeming masses they're supposed to serve. How you go about fixing it? I have no clue...but there's probably something in the notion that the need for these organizations to exist will diminish as technology and the speed/spread of information to everyone increases in the future. The truth shall set us free...until then...face east, kneel down, pay your 10% tithe, and pass the wine. L'chaim!
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Old 7th May 2004, 11:56   #7 (permalink)
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Ban all religion and there will be no more wars

IMO if you were to ban all religions you would suddenly see quite a big fucking war.
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Old 7th May 2004, 16:27   #8 (permalink)
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cui prodest scelus is fecit

Wars are not because od religious aspects. That's the fault of human being, being more specific its weakness. Ppl who fight only claim that do it in the name of God or religion.
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Old 7th May 2004, 16:49   #9 (permalink)
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Only one major world religion, Islam, needs to be eliminated for the world to enjoy more peace. This doesn't mean killing its adherents, but if they were all to convert to a more peaceful faith, such as Bhuddism or Christianity, the world would be better off. Hinduism follows in second place, but since Hindu-inspired violence is confined solely to India, their problems don't concern me a great deal. But Islam has crossed the line between East and West and were it to just vanish tomorrow, the world would start looking up. And you know it's true....
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Old 7th May 2004, 16:58   #10 (permalink)
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Humanity has an amazing ability to find reasons to fight.
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Old 7th May 2004, 17:41   #11 (permalink)
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Only one major world religion, Islam, needs to be eliminated for the world to enjoy more peace. This doesn't mean killing its adherents, but if they were all to convert to a more peaceful faith, such as Bhuddism or Christianity, the world would be better off. Hinduism follows in second place, but since Hindu-inspired violence is confined solely to India, their problems don't concern me a great deal. But Islam has crossed the line between East and West and were it to just vanish tomorrow, the world would start looking up. And you know it's true....
Hahahaha. Redeus, yet another classicly hilarious post. I have to admit, you are one funny guy and you don't fail to make me LOL on occasions. So thanks again.
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Old 8th May 2004, 03:08   #12 (permalink)
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You're welcome Dumpstar. I'm always happy to enlighten the ignorant.
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Old 9th May 2004, 02:34   #13 (permalink)
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hey it worked in star trek
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Old 9th May 2004, 04:19   #14 (permalink)
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hey it worked in star trek
Didn't it take a nuclear war to get to that point?
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Old 9th May 2004, 04:48   #15 (permalink)
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I'd love it if religion disappeared. There is a tiny minority who have a very sophisticated set of beliefs which it's hard to challenge on philosophical or scientific grounds; but most still hold to the dogmas, silly theories and taboos of ancient, ignorant peoples. I can never quite believe intelligent people whom I respect can be so primitive.

Still, I think Raoul's 100 year estimation is unlikely. There may be times when the number of religious people wanes, but there will always be sizeable numbers, and the population of the faithful will soon skyrocket again when the next hyper-epidemic or meteorite strikes.

Also, as has been said, I doubt it would significantly diminish the number of wars.
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Old 9th May 2004, 12:44   #16 (permalink)
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Religion is a key factor in forming moral and ethic values. The Bible is the biggest source of virtues. That's not only a matter of religion but also a code of behaviour.
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if the world bans religions like christianity and buddism - religions founded in peace (perverted to some extent by man) how pray tell would that help? we need to ban man! islam was founded and had it's "spreading" in violence - but man is the culprit in all violence.
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Old 9th May 2004, 16:24   #18 (permalink)
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Only one major world religion, Islam, needs to be eliminated for the world to enjoy more peace. This doesn't mean killing its adherents, but if they were all to convert to a more peaceful faith, such as Bhuddism or Christianity, the world would be better off. Hinduism follows in second place, but since Hindu-inspired violence is confined solely to India, their problems don't concern me a great deal. But Islam has crossed the line between East and West and were it to just vanish tomorrow, the world would start looking up. And you know it's true....
Your views redeus,you views.I can but disagree with them,which i will do.Blaming Islam as the sole religion which propogates terror would be wholly wrong.Such strong statements made without thinking just show your mental abilities.
True, banning all religions would perhaps lead to a calmer world but
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Old 9th May 2004, 16:30   #19 (permalink)
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Only one major world religion, Islam, needs to be eliminated for the world to enjoy more peace. This doesn't mean killing its adherents, but if they were all to convert to a more peaceful faith, such as Bhuddism or Christianity, the world would be better off. Hinduism follows in second place, but since Hindu-inspired violence is confined solely to India, their problems don't concern me a great deal. But Islam has crossed the line between East and West and were it to just vanish tomorrow, the world would start looking up. And you know it's true....
to claim it as a possibility would be foolishness.Not possible,not in a hundred years., their problems don't concern me a great deal
Don't concern you??Don't make me laugh.Are they supposed to?Are you the messiah to rid us of all evil?
I admit, certain Hindus do believe in "radical" movement.I would condemn it in every possible way.Such crazed fanatics belong to some other planet.India would be much better off without them.

Oh and redeus,how do you manage to make every post of yours seem like a wind-up?
Its a unique ability.
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Old 9th May 2004, 18:26   #20 (permalink)
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You're welcome Dumpstar. I'm always happy to enlighten the ignorant.
The pleasure's all mine dude.

Note: I'm laughing 'at you', not 'with you'.
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Old 9th May 2004, 21:10   #21 (permalink)
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I'd love to get rid of all religion.

I'd like to hear how it could be done though.
exactly mine views
ppl who don believe in religion are in minority , they cant force majority to change theit views just like that
it would need a major world wide revolution , chances of which are 1 in million
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Old 9th May 2004, 21:29   #22 (permalink)
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exactly mine views
ppl who don believe in religion are in minority , they cant force majority to change theit views just like that
it would need a major world wide revolution , chances of which are 1 in million
Not believing in relgion is also a belief. There always be a kind of belief. We won't run away from it.
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Old 9th May 2004, 23:24   #23 (permalink)
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Not believing in relgion is also a belief.
No it isn't.
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No it isn't.
Sure it is. You believe in the god of reason and history
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Old 12th May 2004, 12:02   #25 (permalink)
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I believe it would work if we banned all religion...as silly as it may sound, I think it would be fantastic...however most of you are just picking up the two ends and forgetting the middle, just because religion is banned, doesn't mean there cannot be 'spiritualism', which personally I rate much much higher...

Spiritualism is the way forward...
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Sure it is. You believe in the god of reason and history
Prove it
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Old 13th May 2004, 10:53   #27 (permalink)
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Prove it

ok smartarse, why do you exist ?
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Old 13th May 2004, 11:12   #28 (permalink)
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I believe it would work if we banned all religion...as silly as it may sound, I think it would be fantastic...however most of you are just picking up the two ends and forgetting the middle, just because religion is banned, doesn't mean there cannot be 'spiritualism', which personally I rate much much higher...

Spiritualism is the way forward...
Please define 'spiritualism'...

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Please define 'spiritualism'...

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www.dictionary.com...... great site
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Ok wibble stop playing with my account

if you say - there is no purpose, don't you think that you automatically say no to you existence.

And you don't have to worry about my sense of humour I just don't think that this the best suited place to make any kind of jokes
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ok smartarse, why do you exist ?
You might have noticed that I was joking with Math.

Or not.

But I'll answer anyway. Assuming you mean why in the sense of a purpose then the answer is that there is no reason/ultimate purpose or whatever.

If you mean why in a functional sense then the broad answer is evolution progressed by natural selection. The same as any other animal.
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Ive been saying for yrs now that everyone should go catholic,
its all only a big laugh for the lads anyway,
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Old 13th May 2004, 11:45   #33 (permalink)
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Ok wibble stop playing with my account

if you say - there is no purpose, don't you think that you automatically say no to you existence.

And you don't have to worry about my sense of humour I just don't think that this the best suited place to make any kind of jokes
Instead of posting a quote I edited one of my posts. I must have got mixed up because I ended up editing yours with my reply by mistske (easy since I can edit everyones posts if I so wished). I have put things back where they belonged and answered properly.

And jokes are most welcome in here.

As long as they are about a serious subject. All fart and vomit jokes can go in the general.

But whatever you do
don't go into the transfer forum. It is comedic and entirely serious at the same time. A strange place to be sure.
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if you say - there is no purpose, don't you think that you automatically say no to you existence.
No. Lots of things exist but have no purpose. LFC for instance.

We fulfill a biological niche like other animals so if anything that is or purpose if you need one (more of a descriptor than a purpose but WTF).
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Ive been saying for yrs now that everyone should go catholic,
its all only a big laugh for the lads anyway,
Feck off. Took me long enough to get away from the papist cult for me to want to go back again.

Please not that "cult" was not a typo

But now that I think about it .....................
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www.dictionary.com...... great site
You misunderstand...

I want his definition, not one from a dictionary.

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You misunderstand...

I want his definition, not one from a dictionary.

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Oh but I didn't
I don't want to sound critical but you seem to have a tendency to get bogged down in semantics, what do you mean by what do you mean....... know what I mean??
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No. Lots of things exist but have no purpose. LFC for instance.
We fulfill a biological niche like other animals so if anything that is or purpose if you need one (more of a descriptor than a purpose but WTF).
even such a miserable creation had it's purpose - joy for their fans

Maybe I am too young but I am adamant on my opinion that everything must have a kindda purpose.
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Old 13th May 2004, 14:06   #39 (permalink)
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Oh but I didn't
I don't want to sound critical but you seem to have a tendency to get bogged down in semantics, what do you mean by what do you mean....... know what I mean??
You are welcome to criticize, there is much to be learnt from another's honest criticism.

I am deeply interested in spiritual things. When he says "spirituality", the term itself is so broad and covers so many things, I wanted to ask what he sees it as, what it means for him ya know?

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Only one major world religion, Islam, needs to be eliminated for the world to enjoy more peace. This doesn't mean killing its adherents, but if they were all to convert to a more peaceful faith, such as Bhuddism or Christianity.
I don't know where you've got the idea that Christianity is a peaceful religion. It's teachings are based around a book that advocates murder, incest and the stoning of disobedient children. The Bible is absolutley horrific.

Here's your peaceful god killing half a million Israelites:

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Then the men of Judah gave a shout: and as the men of Judah shouted, it came to pass, that God smote Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. And the children of Israel fled before Judah: and God delivered them into their hand. And Abijah and his people slew them with a great slaughter: so there fell down slain of Israel five hundred thousand chosen men. Thus the children of Israel were brought under at that time, and the children of Judah prevailed, because they relied upon the Lord God of their fathers” (2 Chronicles 13:15-18).
He works fast! This time he's killing a million Ethiopians! :

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“And Asa had an army of men . . . And there came out against them Zera the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand . . . Asa cried unto the Lord his God, and said Lord, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power, help us, O Lord our God . . . So the Lord smote the Ethiopians” (2 Chronicles 14:8-12).
He's not done yet, oh no, the lord is a killing machine! By the time he's finished the enitre world will be covered by dead bodies.

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“And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground” (Jeremiah 25:33).
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