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Old 2nd May 2011, 04:55   #161 (permalink)
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And to think, this could have happened 11 years ago when no one knew who he was.
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I noticed that little stylish walk away from the podium too
Shit, after the week he's had, he can go full-on Huggy-Bear.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 04:56   #163 (permalink)
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Yes.

Hopefully they'll be a fractured crazy people.

I was listening to Fisk speak and he was saying that Bin Laden had something about him that unified people. With him gone hopefully it will destabilize the organization. If the US took out a lot of top dogs within then there will be a power vacuum and factions may form - which could lead to in-fighting.
That's the key. It's not like Al Qaeda's going to disappear all of a sudden, but if troops can capitalize on the destabilization, they can make a pretty huge dent. That said if there's infighting, hopefully nobody innocent gets caught in the crossfire.
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I'm not going to lie, I'm disappointed that I stayed up until 5am for this.
You didn't stay up til 5am for this. You would've been in bed if you weren't watching wrestling. Admit it.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 04:58   #166 (permalink)
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You didn't stay up til 5am for this. You would've been in bed if you weren't watching wrestling. Admit it.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 04:59   #167 (permalink)
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And to think, this could have happened 11 years ago when no one knew who he was.
And people say Americans are dense about the rest of the world...
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:00   #168 (permalink)
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So who's having drinks over this?
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:00   #169 (permalink)
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Anyone else worried he's now a martyr and the crazy people are just going to get crazier?
That will be the most interesting and difficult part going forward. While Bin Laden definitely did not plan many of the actions of Al-Qaeda or other similar organizations, he was definitely a figurehead for their movement. I can see it hardening their resolve or damaging their confidence. I would imagine that Ayman al-Zawahiri or the American-Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki will make a statement/threat sometime in the next few days if they can manage it.

Security will definitely be stepped up around the world for the time being.
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I hope he didn't get to see the Arsenal game first, cunt
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:00   #171 (permalink)
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So while Trump and Co. were frothing at the mouth last week about his Birth Certificate, Obama and his people were busy finalizing information on Osama...

Been a dream week for Obama, shame about the storms killing hundreds, otherwise I think he would have busted out a couple of dance moves.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:02   #172 (permalink)
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And people say Americans are dense about the rest of the world...
What?
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:03   #173 (permalink)
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Either he's reading an autocue or he has one hell of a memory.

Ah the classic Americana ending, USA! USA! USA!

Okay i need to get to bed.
It's Obama, ...he always reads a teleprompter. Happy for the US.

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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:04   #174 (permalink)
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So who's having drinks over this?
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He bombed two American embassies before 9/11 happened, it was well established who he was
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:05   #177 (permalink)
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From what I've read, Osama had become merely a figurehead for al-Qaeda and the like. If the current leaders manage to keep everything in order, who knows what could happen.

Just like 9/11 unified the US, this significant but structurally ineffective event could strengthen the resolve of terrorists.

Hopefully not.

EDIT: Spookily similar to Sir Matt's post on the previous page...
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He bombed two American embassies before 9/11 happened, it was well established who he was
Not by the general public.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:05   #179 (permalink)
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The average age of the people outside the White House is somewhere between 18-24, most likely kids from Georgetown, George Washington, and other universities.
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He bombed two American embassies before 9/11 happened, it was well established who he was
The average person in the street didn't know him.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:06   #181 (permalink)
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Re-watching the speech, Obamas order was basically "Get him, dead or alive"
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:07   #182 (permalink)
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So who's having drinks over this?
I had this, though it's less appropriate given he was killed in a firefight and not an air strike:
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Are US flags given out to people at birth? I don't even know where'd i'd go to buy a Union Jack.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:07   #184 (permalink)
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Are US flags given out to people at birth? I don't even know where'd i'd go to buy a Union Jack.
Supermarkets, drug stores. Probably 7-Elevens.
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You can't make this stuff up...they're now basically a parody of themselves.
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It's not all bad for Bin Laden, he's just set a new world record for the longest hide and seek game ever.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:08   #188 (permalink)
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Anyone else worried he's now a martyr and the crazy people are just going to get crazier?
the first thing I though off , somebody will take his place.
There could very well be some trouble ahead
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:08   #189 (permalink)
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:09   #190 (permalink)
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Are US flags given out to people at birth? I don't even know where'd i'd go to buy a Union Jack.
Nowhere, seeing as nobody sells a Union Flag, supplied on a full size flagpole.
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We have both...not hard to find either.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:09   #192 (permalink)
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Re-watching the speech, Obamas order was basically "Get him, dead or alive"
Yeah don't think there was too much emphasis on the alive bit. No one wanted that fucker on trial.

What a media circus that would have been...
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the first thing I though off , somebody will take his place.
There could very well be some trouble ahead
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What's the difference between Osama Bin Laden and a Frank Lampard shot?

Bin Laden was caught...

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(for you to fill the pockets with money on account of my outrageous comedy talent)
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:12   #195 (permalink)
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Are US flags given out to people at birth? I don't even know where'd i'd go to buy a Union Jack.
If you were unable to spot one in the last week, I fear for you faculties
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From what I've read, Osama had become merely a figurehead for al-Qaeda and the like. If the current leaders manage to keep everything in order, who knows what could happen.

Just like 9/11 unified the US, this significant but structurally ineffective event could strengthen the resolve of terrorists.

Hopefully not.
Yeah, he's definitely been less important in terms of actions and planning, especially since Al-Qaeda isn't really an organized unit. I do think it could shift the importance from Afghanistan-Pakistan to Yemen. The unrest there could definitely benefit al-Awlaki and Yemeni-based terrorists like those who sent the printer cartridge "bombs" in the past year.

He reached a mythic status though over the past decade so he's still figuratively very important to the terrorists across the Middle East and world. It should be a chance to push on and attempt to decapitate the organization further.

Edit: Dammit, didn't see RK's edit.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 05:14   #199 (permalink)
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The average person in the street didn't know him.
After the Embassy bombings and the USS Cole bombing, his name was known. It wasn't at the forefront of everyone's mind, but he was all over the news. You couldn't get a random informed teenage off the street and quiz him and get the name from him, but if you mentioned it to a decently informed citizen, there would've been at least a hint of recognition.

Of course 9/11 brought him to the forefront because everyone was angry, but it's not like he was a relative unknown before then. Just after the attacks when his name was brought up as a possible suspect, people recognized the name and knew the implications.
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Someone nearby just launched off some fireworks.
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