A people's Revolution

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 15:58

Classical revolution !!

Way to go Tunisians

God bless Tunis !!!!!!

Hope we follow suit.......very soon God's willing

By the way, where the heck are the Western media. They just woke up a couple of days ago probably. May be if Ben Ali was anti-Semite, Tunis got oil or a nuclear program they would have cared earlier ..may be !!

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 16:39

Army's in the airport ..news that many of the ruling family have been arrested

Emergency state announced

Ben ali dismissed government and called for free parliamentary elections within 6 months

.. won't matter though. Good bye asshole...23 years too late

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 16:50

..and that's how it all started a month ago :

Sir Matt · 14th January 2011, 16:51

That's pretty spiffy. It has been covered by western media to some extent though with the Arizona shooting, pretty much everything else has been put on the backburner.

From the Wikipedia page on Tunisia:

Today Tunisia has an authoritarian regime. It is an export-oriented country, in the process of liberalizing and privatizing its economy but has rife corruption benefiting the president's family. The country operates as a nominal republic under the leadership of President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali who has governed since 1987. The Tunisian economy has averaged 5% GDP growth since the early 1990s.[7] A popular revolution is currently underway.

Dr. Dwayne · 14th January 2011, 16:52

Intersting stuff. I'd love to read more about it.

Sir Matt · 14th January 2011, 16:53

Don't forget that the guy who burned himself was a college graduate street vendor who was angry at being told his stall was illegal. It's interesting to see what kicked this all off.

Arruda · 14th January 2011, 16:55

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/wo...s.html?_r=1&hp

Dr. Dwayne · 14th January 2011, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Arruda

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/wo...s.html?_r=1&hp

wow.

Frosty · 14th January 2011, 16:59

Surely Egypt cannot be too far behind? How old is Mubarak? 82?

Team Brian GB · 14th January 2011, 17:08

Tunisia is more repressive than I thought it was, the rest of North Africa must be petrified.

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Surely Egypt cannot be too far behind? How old is Mubarak? 82?

yes 80 fuckin' 2 +

It's not. i am sure we will change god's willing in 2011. it's a matter of months hopefully. We have been in a continuous stage of protesting and clashes over the past 3 yrs and even further back

This is also a lesson to all. People used to say the region will wake up when Egypt wakes up..not anymore and that's good so that we stop our chauvinistic attitude. The ray of hope came from the least expected country

May be it started in Tunisia because they have a higher percentage of educated people plus they were more oppressed at least as regards freedom of speech. For example, the internet was censured in Tunisia, it's not in Egypt. Won't matter though. Mubarak soon will run out of safety valves. The only valve the country needs now is democracy and freedom.

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 17:22

Members of Trabulsi's family arrested before fleeing the country

That's the first lady's family

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 17:24

BREAKING NEWS ON ALARABIYA : ben Ali ousted, President of the Parliament will be announced president temporarily

GET THE FUCK IN.

Team Brian GB · 14th January 2011, 17:26

So who is controlling the military right now? Have they pledged themselves to Parliament or are they hedging their bets, following populist sentiment?

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 17:26

Ben ali left the country.. Fuckin' helll. The first total civil revolution in the history of the Arab world probably

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 17:42

The interesting thing is that there was no leader for this revolution..no one.not a single name..it was a total spontaneous revolution

rednev · 14th January 2011, 17:47

I said on here only a few weeks ago that the potential for revolution in the Arab world was massive, but I didn't expect anything like this to happen at this stage. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

Frosty · 14th January 2011, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Avatar

yes 80 fuckin' 2 +

It's not. i am sure we will change god's willing in 2011. it's a matter of months hopefully. We have been in a continuous stage of protesting and clashes over the past 3 yrs and even further back

This is also a lesson to all. People used to say the region will wake up when Egypt wakes up..not anymore and that's good so that we stop our chauvinistic attitude. The ray of hope came from the least expected country

May be it started in Tunisia because they have a higher percentage of educated people plus they were more oppressed at least as regards freedom of speech. For example, the internet was censured in Tunisia, it's not in Egypt. Won't matter though. Mubarak soon will run out of safety valves. The only valve the country needs now is democracy and freedom.

Thing is though, what will there be if Mubarak is ousted/dies/retires?

Who will take power? I can see Israel and the US shifting nervously at the thought of the Muslim Brotherhood taking power democratically.

Any thoughts? I freely admit total ignorance of Egyptian politics, so correct me on any mistakes.

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Thing is though, what will there be if Mubarak is ousted/dies/retires?

Who will take power? I can see Israel and the US shifting nervously at the thought of the Muslim Brotherhood taking power democratically.

Any thoughts? I freely admit total ignorance of Egyptian politics, so correct me on any mistakes.

That's the scarecrow Arab dictators use to scare the world of democracy here. If democracy reaches Egypt, give it a few months before parliamentary elections and I can tell you that all political leaders and analysts here believe that MB can get the majority but not the over all majority, they won't reach 50% and they actually believe their share of the vote will be around 33%

Also Egypt will remain a republic and the president won't be from the MB. All Egyptians here believe we need a transitional period and to "appoint" a leader for this period before the first presidential elections. This leader would be from a long list of respectable men here, none of them is MB or what you call "Islamist"

In the future, the MB share will go down because actually almost all political forces in Egypt are against their ideology. More importantly.many Egyptians who are religious and conservative are not pro-MB at all and see them as opportunists; I am one of those.

Believe me. Risk democracy and giving venue for the MB than keep the status quo which is doing nothing but breeding extremism and hate of the other

gambit28 · 14th January 2011, 18:20

So what are the Tunisia military doing then?

Frosty · 14th January 2011, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatar

That's the scarecrow Arab dictators use to scare the world of democracy here. If democracy reaches Egypt, give it a few months before parliamentary elections and I can tell you that all political leaders and analysts here believe that MB can get the majority but not the over all majority, they won't reach 50% and they actually believe their share of the vote will be around 33%

Also Egypt will remain a republic and the president won't be from the MB. All Egyptians here believe we need a transitional period and to "appoint" a leader for this period before the first presidential elections. This leader would be from a long list of respectable men here, none of them is MB or what you call "Islamist"

In the future, the MB share will go down because actually almost all political forces in Egypt are against their ideology. More importantly.many Egyptians who are religious and conservative are not pro-MB at all and see them as opportunists; I am one of those.

Believe me. Risk democracy and giving venue for the MB than keep the status quo which is doing nothing but breeding extremism and hate of the other

I had a feeling that this would be the reality. I truly hope you are right - the same shift happened in Asia in the 60's and 70's, hopefully now it is North Africa's turn.

kotler · 14th January 2011, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Ben ali left the country.. Fuckin' helll. The first total civil revolution in the history of the Arab world probably

actually in Sudan we had a civil revolution in 1985 that overthrew Numeiri after 16 years of tyranny....i hope what happened will start a chain of events that will bring it all back..

viva tunisie

Randall Flagg · 14th January 2011, 19:05

Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 19:08

Why goodbye??

Anyway, news now that it's the PM who take role as president. This is a trick by Ben Ali and evne if not, the PM is one of his closest men. Tunisians are calling for continuation of protests tomorrow; they won't be tricked .

Aboutreika18 · 14th January 2011, 19:21

Rabina ma'ak, Tunisia!

Neutral · 14th January 2011, 19:23

It's all a trick...he put his stooge in control as he fled. They've got momentum, they need to ensure they extract as many concrete pledges as possible now, elections at all levels, and deadlines.

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 19:55

Every Arab ruler is watching Tunisia in fear. Every Arab citizen is watching Tunisia in hope and solidarity

Team Brian GB · 14th January 2011, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too

Considering how up and down Thailand has been in the last five years their tourist industry has gotten by.

peterstorey · 14th January 2011, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too

Cuba hasn't done too badly despite being a commie shithole.

Team Brian GB · 14th January 2011, 20:51

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Cuba hasn't done too badly despite being a commie shithole.

There is a difference between a popular revolution fifty years ago and one that started today.

MikeUpNorth · 14th January 2011, 21:24

Ultimately, all people want to be free.

peterstorey · 14th January 2011, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Brian GB

There is a difference between a popular revolution fifty years ago and one that started today.

About 50 years. What's your point?

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 21:34

Already calls for massive protests next 25th Jan. in Egypt. 25th Jan. is "Police day" in Egypt and after several horrible torture to death cases throughout the years and especially in 2010, it would be the best response.

Still in the cyber world though, didn't materialize yet

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too

If that's the price then so be it. In fact, I know Tunisians in exile who are now planning to go home..puts things in perspective

Avatar · 14th January 2011, 22:18

After weeks of silence, CNN talked about the situation and the main focuse of the convo. was the fear of Islamists gaining power in Tunisia!!!! Fuckin' hell, people are obsessed with that notion.

RedKaos · 14th January 2011, 23:09

All this has brought a huge smile to my face, well done the people of Tunisia

Mubarak must be quaking in his boots now, here's hoping this revolution ripples on throughout the Arab world bringing down the tyrants and puppets regime by regime.

niMic · 14th January 2011, 23:52

Go Tunisians.

Team Brian GB · 15th January 2011, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterstorey

About 50 years. What's your point?

There is a difference between the impact upon tourism in Cuba in 2011 following a revolution in 1959, and the impact upon tourism in Tunisia in 2011 following a revolution in 2011.

Colin129 · 15th January 2011, 00:23

This is fucking typical, me & the Mrs were thinking about going on holiday to Tunisia this summer as we haven't had a proper holiday for a couple of years and its relatively cheap with good food & weather and now this!

Its all very well, but lets hope that the government is not replaced by a repressive pro-ultra religious regime.

Ruud_boy_10 · 15th January 2011, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

This is fucking typical, me & the Mrs were thinking about going on holiday to Tunisia this summer as we haven't had a proper holiday for a couple of years and its relatively cheap with good food & weather and now this!

Its all very well, but lets hope that the government is not replaced by a repressive pro-ultra religious regime.

Because the current regime has been so good to the people

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14th January 2011, 16:39	#2 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Army's in the airport ..news that many of the ruling family have been arrested Emergency state announced Ben ali dismissed government and called for free parliamentary elections within 6 months .. won't matter though. Good bye asshole...23 years too late

14th January 2011, 16:50	#3 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	..and that's how it all started a month ago :

14th January 2011, 16:51	#4 (permalink)
Sir Matt First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LUHG Posts: 9,289	That's pretty spiffy. It has been covered by western media to some extent though with the Arizona shooting, pretty much everything else has been put on the backburner. From the Wikipedia page on Tunisia: Today Tunisia has an authoritarian regime. It is an export-oriented country, in the process of liberalizing and privatizing its economy but has rife corruption benefiting the president's family. The country operates as a nominal republic under the leadership of President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali who has governed since 1987. The Tunisian economy has averaged 5% GDP growth since the early 1990s.[7] A popular revolution is currently underway.

14th January 2011, 16:52	#5 (permalink)
Dr. Dwayne Slacker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Back where I don't belong Posts: 46,404	Intersting stuff. I'd love to read more about it.

14th January 2011, 16:53	#6 (permalink)
Sir Matt First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LUHG Posts: 9,289	Don't forget that the guy who burned himself was a college graduate street vendor who was angry at being told his stall was illegal. It's interesting to see what kicked this all off.

14th January 2011, 16:55	#7 (permalink)
Arruda Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Porto Posts: 3,086	http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/wo...s.html?_r=1&hp

14th January 2011, 16:59	#9 (permalink)
Frosty Logical and sensible but turns women gay Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,786	Surely Egypt cannot be too far behind? How old is Mubarak? 82?

14th January 2011, 17:08	#10 (permalink)
Team Brian GB Baby Cameron loves X-Factor Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16,051	Tunisia is more repressive than I thought it was, the rest of North Africa must be petrified.

14th January 2011, 17:22	#12 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Members of Trabulsi's family arrested before fleeing the country That's the first lady's family

14th January 2011, 17:24	#13 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	BREAKING NEWS ON ALARABIYA : ben Ali ousted, President of the Parliament will be announced president temporarily GET THE FUCK IN.

14th January 2011, 17:26	#14 (permalink)
Team Brian GB Baby Cameron loves X-Factor Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16,051	So who is controlling the military right now? Have they pledged themselves to Parliament or are they hedging their bets, following populist sentiment?

14th January 2011, 17:26	#15 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Ben ali left the country.. Fuckin' helll. The first total civil revolution in the history of the Arab world probably

14th January 2011, 17:42	#16 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	The interesting thing is that there was no leader for this revolution..no one.not a single name..it was a total spontaneous revolution

14th January 2011, 17:47	#17 (permalink)
rednev Suarez of the year Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 18,827	I said on here only a few weeks ago that the potential for revolution in the Arab world was massive, but I didn't expect anything like this to happen at this stage. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

14th January 2011, 18:20	#20 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,703	So what are the Tunisia military doing then?

14th January 2011, 19:05	#23 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,675	Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too

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Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Why goodbye?? Anyway, news now that it's the PM who take role as president. This is a trick by Ben Ali and evne if not, the PM is one of his closest men. Tunisians are calling for continuation of protests tomorrow; they won't be tricked .

14th January 2011, 19:21	#25 (permalink)
Aboutreika18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: You contaminated my day,ROONEY is too blunt to be a striker. Posts: 3,044	Rabina ma'ak, Tunisia!

14th January 2011, 19:23	#26 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 6,447	It's all a trick...he put his stooge in control as he fled. They've got momentum, they need to ensure they extract as many concrete pledges as possible now, elections at all levels, and deadlines.

14th January 2011, 19:55	#27 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Every Arab ruler is watching Tunisia in fear. Every Arab citizen is watching Tunisia in hope and solidarity

14th January 2011, 21:24	#31 (permalink)
MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 13,227	Ultimately, all people want to be free.

14th January 2011, 21:34	#33 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	Already calls for massive protests next 25th Jan. in Egypt. 25th Jan. is "Police day" in Egypt and after several horrible torture to death cases throughout the years and especially in 2010, it would be the best response. Still in the cyber world though, didn't materialize yet

14th January 2011, 22:18	#35 (permalink)
Avatar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 2,263	After weeks of silence, CNN talked about the situation and the main focuse of the convo. was the fear of Islamists gaining power in Tunisia!!!! Fuckin' hell, people are obsessed with that notion.

14th January 2011, 23:09	#36 (permalink)
RedKaos Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dromund Kaas Posts: 12,843	All this has brought a huge smile to my face, well done the people of Tunisia Mubarak must be quaking in his boots now, here's hoping this revolution ripples on throughout the Arab world bringing down the tyrants and puppets regime by regime.

14th January 2011, 23:52	#37 (permalink)
niMic may peace and blessings of God be upon me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: And I'm all out of bubblegum. Posts: 10,781	Go Tunisians.

15th January 2011, 00:23	#39 (permalink)
Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	This is fucking typical, me & the Mrs were thinking about going on holiday to Tunisia this summer as we haven't had a proper holiday for a couple of years and its relatively cheap with good food & weather and now this! Its all very well, but lets hope that the government is not replaced by a repressive pro-ultra religious regime.