'Piracy' student to be extradited

Skywarden · 14th January 2012, 18:39

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Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

Jesus , if they got hold of my laptop and my external HD's , I would be in the shit ( no there is no porn)

Use encryption?

mjs020294 · 14th January 2012, 19:59

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

This was 2010 that the TV-links.co.uk case got thrown out so why is it now happening again. That judge can think what he likes, it doesn't mean he was right.

Either the 2012 judge is correct or the 2010 one is.

Both judges might be right, the two cases may have slight nuances. This guy will get is day in the high court, and even if he loses there and finally gets extradited he will also have a very good chance of winning in the US courts.

He undoubtedly knew that what he was doing was in a grey area and very possibly illegal. Its a case that could go either way on both sides of the pond.

Kaush949 · 16th January 2012, 07:19

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Originally Posted by Wibble

So if Iran ask for the owners of a web site that provides information where to get pornography from to be extradited to Iran because they break Iranian laws you think we should comply? Perhaps only if they warn the site owners they are breaking Iranian law first?

Or if China want the owners of a web site indexing anti-Chinese web sites extradited?

Extradition should only be entertained (and not necessarily granted) where the law was broken in the overseas country and then only if that alleged offense is a major crime in the host country.

This

mjs020294 · 16th January 2012, 15:41

In the view of the judge a crime as possibly been commited in the UK as well.

Dumbstar · 16th January 2012, 16:32

That's some justice! If he's lucky he'll only get a five year jail sentence.

If the law was any more f*cked up he'd get an 8 match ban and £40k fine.

Wibble · 16th January 2012, 21:54

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Originally Posted by mjs020294

In the view of the judge a crime as possibly been commited in the UK as well.

Might? Despite the lack of charges and similar cases in the uk failing?

mjs020294 · 16th January 2012, 22:13

In the opinion of the judge the case met the criteria for extradtion. That included the possibility of a criminal offense being commited under UK law. Nobody on this forum is party to 1% of the info the judge used to make his decsion.

Wibble · 17th January 2012, 02:36

Old fart who still has a wind up gramaphone most likely.

If he has committed a criminal act in the UK why hasn't be been charged much less found guilty? Could it be because the last prosecution of a similar case ended in an acquittal? Wouldn't this also suggest that the judge in this case ignored precedent?

We need Frosty to set us right.

Dr. Dwayne · 17th January 2012, 02:52

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Originally Posted by Wibble

So if Iran ask for the owners of a web site that provides information where to get pornography from to be extradited to Iran because they break Iranian laws you think we should comply? Perhaps only if they warn the site owners they are breaking Iranian law first?

Or if China want the owners of a web site indexing anti-Chinese web sites extradited?

Extradition should only be entertained (and not necessarily granted) where the law was broken in the overseas country and then only if that alleged offense is a major crime in the host country.

One of the rare times that I agree with you.

mjs020294 · 17th January 2012, 02:53

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Originally Posted by Wibble

Old fart who still has a wind up gramaphone most likely.

If he has committed a criminal act in the UK why hasn't be been charged much less found guilty? Could it be because the last prosecution of a similar case ended in an acquittal? Wouldn't this also suggest that the judge in this case ignored precedent?

We need Frosty to set us right.

Why make ridiculous statements. The guy is 61 years old, which for a judge is relatively young. He made his decision based on the evidence in front of him. If he got it obviously wrong it will soon get overturned on appeal.

Wibble · 17th January 2012, 04:55

I find most people my age (47) are all at sea when it comes to the outdated and outmoded nature of copyright laws so it is hardly a stretch to think that a judge over 60 will be out of touch. I could be wrong of course but I wonder if I am?

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16th January 2012, 15:41	#44 (permalink)
mjs020294 First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ex-Pat in Florida Posts: 14,985	In the view of the judge a crime as possibly been commited in the UK as well.

16th January 2012, 16:32	#45 (permalink)
Dumbstar First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Going nowhere Posts: 6,422	That's some justice! If he's lucky he'll only get a five year jail sentence. If the law was any more f*cked up he'd get an 8 match ban and £40k fine.

16th January 2012, 22:13	#47 (permalink)
mjs020294 First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ex-Pat in Florida Posts: 14,985	In the opinion of the judge the case met the criteria for extradtion. That included the possibility of a criminal offense being commited under UK law. Nobody on this forum is party to 1% of the info the judge used to make his decsion.

17th January 2012, 02:36	#48 (permalink)
Wibble Ingadus Speramus Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Centre Back Posts: 49,868	Old fart who still has a wind up gramaphone most likely. If he has committed a criminal act in the UK why hasn't be been charged much less found guilty? Could it be because the last prosecution of a similar case ended in an acquittal? Wouldn't this also suggest that the judge in this case ignored precedent? We need Frosty to set us right.

17th January 2012, 04:55	#51 (permalink)
Wibble Ingadus Speramus Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Centre Back Posts: 49,868	I find most people my age (47) are all at sea when it comes to the outdated and outmoded nature of copyright laws so it is hardly a stretch to think that a judge over 60 will be out of touch. I could be wrong of course but I wonder if I am?