The press are barefaced liars

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 10:43

Looking at the threads and speculation in the Transfer forum and the rumours flying about, it has become clear that the whole thing, everything, was a complete fabrication. None, not one, or the rumours was true. Of course the law of averages tells us that sooner or later they will get one right & then they will tell you that they told you so.

3 different sources, for example, came on National radio (Talkshite) and said Wesley Sneijder was definitely coming to United and of course all the talk of Gill going to Milan (when he was gong to Switzerland all along).

SAF came out and said that they were never even interested in him & Inter also denied receiving any bid/interest.

We have the phone hacking scandal just going on as well.

The press are basically a bunch of liars, can we believe anything at all that any of them say on any subject, unless we can see it with our own eyes?

Is it our own faulty for being so gullible, or should we all write to the Press Complaints Commission & voice our disgust at the lies being peddled in the name of journalism?

This is a serious issue, what do people think?

Plechazunga · 15th July 2011, 10:46

Yes their behaviour over Sneijder has been downright evil, and hacking a murdered child's telephone was pretty low too.

Eyepopper · 15th July 2011, 10:49

Make a placard Colin, go and stand outside Downing St in protest, I'd say you'd have thousands with you in a matter of days.

Lance Uppercut · 15th July 2011, 10:57

If "people" didn't buy it, they wouldn't write it.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 11:00

I've a mind to call up that Sam Twatface on his transfer bar tomorrow evening and challenge him on how he feels about 3 people coming on his show & basically lieing to him and whether he will refuse to use those sources again.

Bryan_Munich · 15th July 2011, 11:03

They didn't say Sneijder is definitely coming to United.

He still might.

Drifter · 15th July 2011, 11:03

Stick with reliable sources.The official site and press association.

Brophs · 15th July 2011, 11:03

Don't forget to make the call whilst wearing a batman costume.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

If "people" didn't buy it, they wouldn't write it.

But they give the impression that they have people have actually told them something when it is clearly made up.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

They didn't say Sneijder is definitely coming to United.

He still might.

SAF has said in a broadcast interview that they have never been interested in him.

Bryan_Munich · 15th July 2011, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

SAF has said in a broadcast interview that they have never been interested in him.

He never lies in order to manipulate the media or the situation to his advantage does he?

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 11:12

The point of the thread though is can we believe anything they say?

The transfer rumour mill was just an example of deliberate lies being peddled by the media.

For example, they have had relatives of 911 survivors on saying, 'well yes, I did change my phone number shortly after, but if hadn't I'd be really upset if they hacked my phone'. Its bad enough about the ones they know about, but they are making up a load of other possibilities just to blow the story up. No proof, more lies.

Lance Uppercut · 15th July 2011, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

But they give the impression that they have people have actually told them something when it is clearly made up.

And "people" buy it. If "people" weren't interested in rampant speculation, the papers wouldn't sell. But they are, so they do.

For further evidence of this, see the Transfer Forum.

Bryan_Munich · 15th July 2011, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

The point of the thread though is can we believe anything they say?

The transfer rumour mill was just an example of deliberate lies being peddled by the media.

For example, they have had relatives of 911 survivors on saying, 'well yes, I did change my phone number shortly after, but if hadn't I'd be really upset if they hacked my phone'. Its bad enough about the ones they know about, but they are making up a load of other possibilities just to blow the story up. No proof, more lies.

Of course we can.

Do you really think that every single story that has appeared in the media re Sneijder for example was fabricated?

What transfer rumour mill?

Zarlak · 15th July 2011, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

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SAF came out and said that they were never even interested in him

Apart from that never happening as far as I know, he hasn't said that unless you've got a quote, the rest of it is right, but the thing is we all know that. We know they are just trying to shift newspapers. Like Lance is saying, they fuel the fire that people want to hear and read. They supply a demand. If everyone didn't want to read it, papers wouldn't sell. There are obviously enough people out there that enjoy this kind of thing that keep buying the papers for the papers to keep doing it.

Crustanoid · 15th July 2011, 11:18

I'm going to sue them for loss of earnings - the amount of time I've wasted these last few weeks, reading, refreshing, knuckle shuffling....it's all been for nothing

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarlak

Apart from that never happening as far as I know, he hasn't said that unless you've got a quote, the rest of it is right, but the thing is we all know that. We know they are just trying to shift newspapers. Like Lance is saying, they fuel the fire that people want to hear and read. They supply a demand. If everyone didn't want to read it, papers wouldn't sell. There are obviously enough people out there that enjoy this kind of thing that keep buying the papers for the papers to keep doing it.

I heard him saying it on a recorded interview on the radio this morning.

CassiusClaymore · 15th July 2011, 11:39

This is the final nail in the coffin for the press IMO. Making up transfer rumours?

You wait till that commitee rips into the Murdochs like a school of piranha fish.

It's gonna be a bloodbath.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 12:00

Some of the stuff they come out with is no more true than the 'car on the moon' story in the old Daily Sport.

It might be more believable but it is not something you can laugh off, unless you are stupid enough to believe there was a car on the moon, because the sources that are spouting this shit are supposed to be bona fides.

Eyepopper · 15th July 2011, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

Of course we can.

Do you really think that every single story that has appeared in the media re Sneijder for example was fabricated?

What transfer rumour mill?

To be fair most of the press around transfers is self perpetuating.

Today the Sun carries a story on a player, tomorrow the Mirror picks up on that story, adds some conjecture and suggestion, the following day the mail speculates on the conjecture, the day after that we're back to the Sun.

Thats a bit simplistic but its how loads of stories do the rounds.

Bryan_Munich · 15th July 2011, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyepopper

To be fair most of the press around transfers is self perpetuating.

Today the Sun carries a story on a player, tomorrow the Mirror picks up on that story, adds some conjecture and suggestion, the following day the mail speculates on the conjecture, the day after that we're back to the Sun.

Thats a bit simplistic but its how loads of stories do the rounds.

I don't disagree, however some people seem to think that everything is fabricated or made up.

Sports journalists do have sources and some are obviously more reliable than others.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

I don't disagree, however some people seem to think that everything is fabricated or made up.

Sports journalists do have sources and some are obviously more reliable than others.

They are bound to get a hit occasionally, but I don't see much evidence to suggest that any of it is true.

dumbo · 15th July 2011, 13:00

Just heard that Rebekah Brooks has resigned over the Sneijder scandal.

phelans shorts · 15th July 2011, 13:52

So, in the wake of the most shockingly hideous story regarding dealings of the press in as long as I care to remember a thread gets started because journalists are changing their minds on whether Sneijder will sign?

Un-fucking-believable.

Bryan_Munich · 15th July 2011, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin129

They are bound to get a hit occasionally, but I don't see much evidence to suggest that any of it is true.

Let's wait and see.

Colin129 · 15th July 2011, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelans shorts

So, in the wake of the most shockingly hideous story regarding dealings of the press in as long as I care to remember a thread gets started because journalists are changing their minds on whether Sneijder will sign?

Un-fucking-believable.

Why do people have to twist everything round to something that was never suggested in the first place?

You have misunderstood what this is about. Its about the press seeming getting away with lieing about just about everything they report on. The transfer thing was just an example.

They have also brought in a load of stuff about people who would have been upset had they been hacked without any indication that they might have been hacked anyway.

SteveJ · 21st July 2011, 03:07

'Did this nurse murder three patients?'

Just look at the reporting of this woman's arrest:

Saline poisoning: Did nurse Rebecca Leighton murder three patients? | Mail Online

Now, I've no idea if she's innocent or guilty of the charge but the journalism is typically appalling - have the press learnt nothing from the 'Jo Yeates' Landlord' fiasco? The Mail's interpretation of the suspect's Facebook entries is particularly priceless: just paragraphs from their earlier hints that the woman is yet another drunken, frivolous, lazy young person, we read this:

Quote:

Her previous posting – simply the word ‘shattered’ – was posted on the evening of July 8, the day after the death of Tracey Arden, the first suspected poisoning victim.

...this, despite the woman's repeated entries stating how tired the job made her. The word 'shattered', apparently, is a tacit admission of guilt; although personally I've yet to hear of a defendant pleading 'knackered' in court...

Again, I've no clue as to the guilt or innocence of this person; I'm only commenting on the Mail's reporting...which is a hatchet-job carried out before guilt or innocence has been established.

Today, an MP called-on the press to refrain from naming suspects before they are brought to trial; despite this, and at a time when the media's reputation is at an all-time low, the owners/editors of the Daily Mail & other publications still believe they are free to do what they want without fear, conscience, or care. And why should they care? After all, it appears they have the police and politicians in their pockets...

Colin129 · 22nd July 2011, 21:21

Good call Steve...

Red Defence · 22nd July 2011, 21:58

The Mail are particularly bad at that sort of thing Steve. The law should forbid the media from naming people who have been "arrested" (or helping police with their enquiries) unless they are actually charged with an offence.

I stopped clicking on their links a while back because I know if an article has their name on it then it won't be worth reading.

Won't be missed if it joins the NOTW.

R_Kelly · 22nd July 2011, 22:21

I actually said the exact same thing last night, RD. Suspects should not be named until such a time as they have actually been charged. In fact I'd even be hesitant then because they've still not been found guilty of anything. The press in this country are absolute bastards, the reports on Granada last night made me cringe, I just couldn't stop thinking to myself that if this nurse is later cleared and turns out to be completely innocent then it'd mean nothing - her life would be destroyed. The press are ubertwats.

Tibs · 23rd July 2011, 12:01

Don't buy the tabloids

SteveJ · 23rd September 2011, 22:26

Disgraceful, no matter what one thinks about Liverpool Football club:

Quote:

Where did this institutionalised civic depressiveness come from? You could start with Heathcliff, the star of Emily Brontë’s 1847 hit, Wuthering Heights. Heathcliff was a gipsy child, found on the streets of Liverpool and taken back to the sanctuary of middle-class Yorkshire. This, he found, was a pleasant, neutral backdrop to his inherent inclinations towards violent disturbance, fornication and demonic self-destruction (which are now the characteristics of a classic Scouse wedding).

Two years before Heathcliff, Marx’s collaborator Friedrich Engels had visited Liverpool as a part of his influential documentary about the English working classes. He found endemic “barbarity” and “the whole ordinarily very dirty and inhabited by proletarians”. And Engels had not met the Rooney family...

Mersey, without mercy - Telegraph

peterstorey · 23rd September 2011, 22:29

Stephen Bayley is a pointless nonce who started off writing about design ,got relegated to fashion and is now slumming it in TV.

Colin129 · 6th January 2012, 14:15

The Lampard to United story and the reconciliation talks between Liverpool & United stories have both been ridiculed by SAF.

More bare faced lies from the press.

Quote:

Reports this morning claimed Ferguson would try to lure the 33-year-old Chelsea midfielder to Old Trafford to help avert an injury crisis that has already seen Nemanja Vidic, Darren Fletcher, Tom Cleverley, Ashley Young, Chris Smalling, Jonny Evans, Fabio Da Silva and Michael Owen sidelined.
It has been rumoured that Lampard is unsettled at Chelsea, with new manager Andre Villas-Boas often using him as an impact player off the bench.
The England international has 18 months left on his contract at Stamford Bridge, where he has played since 2001 after joining for £11 million from West Ham.
However, when asked if claims United would try to sign him were true, Ferguson replied: "Do you really think Chelsea would sell to United in January?
"There's no foundation in that. Chelsea want to do something in the second half of the season so they want to keep their best players."

Ferguson reiterated that he is not currently planning to add to his squad in January as he does not believe he will be able to land the players he wants.
"What can you get in January?" he said. "I've said this many times now. The players we'd like we can't get. If the alternative is to sign a second-rate player, we don't want to do that.
"Our injuries have led to fans wanting us to sign someone, but I don't want to sign a player who won't get a game when everyone's fit because he's not good enough."
Ferguson has also questioned the need for peace talks ahead of United's Premier League encounter with Liverpool at Old Trafford on Feb 11.
Relations between the two clubs have been soured since the racism row between Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra exploded when the two sides last met in October.
Further bad blood was spilled as Liverpool attempted to defend their striker, with Liverpool questioning why Suarez's word was being ignored in favour of Evra.
Subsequently, Suarez was found guilty of making racist comments by an independent disciplinary commission and banned for eight matches.
Yet even in accepting the punishment earlier this week, Liverpool - and Suarez - have avoided any suggestion of an apology to Evra.
United have said nothing on the entire matter, other than questioning the need for Liverpool's statements in support of the Uruguayan prior to the disciplinary hearing.
Privately they have been irritated by Liverpool's stance, though, and Ferguson has cooled talk of discussions between the two clubs, reports of which emerged this morning, before they meet again, by which time Suarez will be available.
"It is nice of them to do it through the press," said Ferguson. "You would have thought they would come to Manchester United first.
"I do not see why there is any need for it. But I have nothing to say about it."

As regards Lampard I read that United had specifically contacted the Chavs and as regards the Scouse, that they had been specifically contacted United.

Lies. pure & simple...

Vidic_In_Moscow · 6th January 2012, 16:02

To make a pretty unfair generalisation, I dislike journalists on the whole, particularly journalists who are purposely seeking to spectate the less fortunate or at a time of tragedy, and just wave camera's in their face so we can see. One example that really made me think lately was on Sky News they were filming a guy in hospital in Egypt who had been shot, writhing in agony on his bed while his family are totally beside themselves with panic.

It's only when you try to imagine yourself in the room, (not viewing through the camera) and you can see a camera guy poking his camera in the faces of the whole family, just for affect, with the presenter journo trying to say something moving. It made me feel a bit sick, but of course I was watching it... so I can't really have my cake and eat it, but I definitely think it's wrong in practice to try to capitalize off of other peoples tragedy/misfortune.

Most journalists are just people who value their own opinion too much, people with an agenda writing bollocks or just turning everything into bullshit to sell more papers... or all of the above. Can't stand 'em.

Damien1990 · 6th January 2012, 16:02

Even if they were true, it's unlikely Fergie would have said we were in contact with Lampard/Chelsea in the press conference anyway.

Colin129 · 6th January 2012, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vidic_In_Moscow

To make a pretty unfair generalisation, I dislike journalists on the whole, particularly journalists who are purposely seeking to spectate the less fortunate or at a time of tragedy, and just wave camera's in their face so we can see. One example that really made me think lately was on Sky News they were filming a guy in hospital in Egypt who had been shot, writhing in agony on his bed while his family are totally beside themselves with panic.

It's only when you try to imagine yourself in the room, (not viewing through the camera) and you can see a camera guy poking his camera in the faces of the whole family, just for affect, with the presenter journo trying to say something moving. It made me feel a bit sick, but of course I was watching it... so I can't really have my cake and eat it, but I definitely think it's wrong in practice to try to capitalize off of other peoples tragedy/misfortune.

Most journalists are just people who value their own opinion too much, people with an agenda writing bollocks or just turning everything into bullshit to sell more papers... or all of the above. Can't stand 'em.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments, pointing a camera at someone in a hospital bed is a real event, however distasteful it is to intrude on peoples personal problems. It is not a lie though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien1990

Even if they were true, it's unlikely Fergie would have said we were in contact with Lampard/Chelsea in the press conference anyway.

His statement is pretty categoric though...

Zarlak · 6th January 2012, 19:49

Quote:

"What can you get in January?" he said. "I've said this many times now. The players we'd like we can't get. If the alternative is to sign a second-rate player, we don't want to do that.

The players we'd like that we can only get in the summer?

There must be value about!

Colin129 · 7th January 2012, 00:19

3 times in one day, what a bunch of cunts the press are...

Fergie to let Rooney go?

Cheesy · 7th January 2012, 00:37

Sometimes, I think we have to look further than the journalists who make up the false stories. At many of these major, nationwide newspapers, the journalists are put under constant pressure to come up with major, controversial headlines, even if they aren't true. It's a vicious cycle, and the big guns who call the shots often escape the scrutiny.

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Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	The press are barefaced liars Looking at the threads and speculation in the Transfer forum and the rumours flying about, it has become clear that the whole thing, everything, was a complete fabrication. None, not one, or the rumours was true. Of course the law of averages tells us that sooner or later they will get one right & then they will tell you that they told you so. 3 different sources, for example, came on National radio (Talkshite) and said Wesley Sneijder was definitely coming to United and of course all the talk of Gill going to Milan (when he was gong to Switzerland all along). SAF came out and said that they were never even interested in him & Inter also denied receiving any bid/interest. We have the phone hacking scandal just going on as well. The press are basically a bunch of liars, can we believe anything at all that any of them say on any subject, unless we can see it with our own eyes? Is it our own faulty for being so gullible, or should we all write to the Press Complaints Commission & voice our disgust at the lies being peddled in the name of journalism? This is a serious issue, what do people think?

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15th July 2011, 10:46	#2 (permalink)
Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	Yes their behaviour over Sneijder has been downright evil, and hacking a murdered child's telephone was pretty low too.

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Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, think I'm heading home! Posts: 50,157	Make a placard Colin, go and stand outside Downing St in protest, I'd say you'd have thousands with you in a matter of days.

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Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	If "people" didn't buy it, they wouldn't write it.

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Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	I've a mind to call up that Sam Twatface on his transfer bar tomorrow evening and challenge him on how he feels about 3 people coming on his show & basically lieing to him and whether he will refuse to use those sources again.

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Bryan_Munich Aka RichieRich12 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "If we are around about the top, the second half of the season presents an opportunity for us. With the way this club is organised to perform in the second half of the season, it helps us. It doesn't matter how we get there, or who is around us." Posts: 10,753	They didn't say Sneijder is definitely coming to United. He still might.

15th July 2011, 11:03	#7 (permalink)
Drifter No Lifer Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,927	Stick with reliable sources.The official site and press association.

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Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,678	Don't forget to make the call whilst wearing a batman costume.

15th July 2011, 11:12	#12 (permalink)
Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	The point of the thread though is can we believe anything they say? The transfer rumour mill was just an example of deliberate lies being peddled by the media. For example, they have had relatives of 911 survivors on saying, 'well yes, I did change my phone number shortly after, but if hadn't I'd be really upset if they hacked my phone'. Its bad enough about the ones they know about, but they are making up a load of other possibilities just to blow the story up. No proof, more lies.

15th July 2011, 11:18	#16 (permalink)
Crustanoid First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,587	I'm going to sue them for loss of earnings - the amount of time I've wasted these last few weeks, reading, refreshing, knuckle shuffling....it's all been for nothing

15th July 2011, 11:39	#18 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,398	This is the final nail in the coffin for the press IMO. Making up transfer rumours? You wait till that commitee rips into the Murdochs like a school of piranha fish. It's gonna be a bloodbath.

15th July 2011, 12:00	#19 (permalink)
Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	Some of the stuff they come out with is no more true than the 'car on the moon' story in the old Daily Sport. It might be more believable but it is not something you can laugh off, unless you are stupid enough to believe there was a car on the moon, because the sources that are spouting this shit are supposed to be bona fides.

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dumbo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,313	Just heard that Rebekah Brooks has resigned over the Sneijder scandal.

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phelans shorts First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gaz. Is a Mewling Quim. Posts: 19,519	So, in the wake of the most shockingly hideous story regarding dealings of the press in as long as I care to remember a thread gets started because journalists are changing their minds on whether Sneijder will sign? Un-fucking-believable.

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Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	Good call Steve...

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Red Defence First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: “United stands for attacking, attractive football played at high speed, with one-touch passing combinations, individual skill and unpredictability. That’s all conducted at pace, with intent.” Posts: 7,636	The Mail are particularly bad at that sort of thing Steve. The law should forbid the media from naming people who have been "arrested" (or helping police with their enquiries) unless they are actually charged with an offence. I stopped clicking on their links a while back because I know if an article has their name on it then it won't be worth reading. Won't be missed if it joins the NOTW.

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R_Kelly No Lifer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: How do you expect to run with the wolves come night, when you spend all day sparring with the puppies? Posts: 38,658	I actually said the exact same thing last night, RD. Suspects should not be named until such a time as they have actually been charged. In fact I'd even be hesitant then because they've still not been found guilty of anything. The press in this country are absolute bastards, the reports on Granada last night made me cringe, I just couldn't stop thinking to myself that if this nurse is later cleared and turns out to be completely innocent then it'd mean nothing - her life would be destroyed. The press are ubertwats.

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Tibs First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gtr. Manchester Posts: 9,548	Don't buy the tabloids

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peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 25,989	Stephen Bayley is a pointless nonce who started off writing about design ,got relegated to fashion and is now slumming it in TV.

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Vidic_In_Moscow First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,427	To make a pretty unfair generalisation, I dislike journalists on the whole, particularly journalists who are purposely seeking to spectate the less fortunate or at a time of tragedy, and just wave camera's in their face so we can see. One example that really made me think lately was on Sky News they were filming a guy in hospital in Egypt who had been shot, writhing in agony on his bed while his family are totally beside themselves with panic. It's only when you try to imagine yourself in the room, (not viewing through the camera) and you can see a camera guy poking his camera in the faces of the whole family, just for affect, with the presenter journo trying to say something moving. It made me feel a bit sick, but of course I was watching it... so I can't really have my cake and eat it, but I definitely think it's wrong in practice to try to capitalize off of other peoples tragedy/misfortune. Most journalists are just people who value their own opinion too much, people with an agenda writing bollocks or just turning everything into bullshit to sell more papers... or all of the above. Can't stand 'em.

6th January 2012, 16:02	#36 (permalink)
Damien1990 Self-Aware Redcafe Database (and poster) Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 15,428	Even if they were true, it's unlikely Fergie would have said we were in contact with Lampard/Chelsea in the press conference anyway.

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Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,820	3 times in one day, what a bunch of cunts the press are... Fergie to let Rooney go?

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Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,300	Sometimes, I think we have to look further than the journalists who make up the false stories. At many of these major, nationwide newspapers, the journalists are put under constant pressure to come up with major, controversial headlines, even if they aren't true. It's a vicious cycle, and the big guns who call the shots often escape the scrutiny.