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Should Uganda debate gay execution?
A pretty intense debate on a live issue in Uganda. Click on the link to read some of the comments ... both for and against ...
Its a parallel universe that we live in. BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Should Uganda debate gay execution? Quote:
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Not to my knowledge. Several gay and human rights groups in the west protested quite vocally but no discernible action was taken. The Iraqi Government aren't even remotely interested in taking on the issue in light of the massive challenges the country faces. Its going to remain a problem for some time I'm afraid, at least in Iraq.
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I wouldn't be surprised or at least I hope there would be a drop off in foreign aid both from government development agencies and private charities if such a move went ahead, which I'd like to think would keep them away from such a move.
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The religious organizations provide basic amenities in rural areas, especially education, that is neglected by the federal government who pours money into overpopulated urban centers and embezzles the rest. I would say in Nigeria, about 70% of primary education in rural areas is provided by either the church or mosque.
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Much of African is resistant to the use of Condom's, just look at the infection and death rates, the opposition from the church is making changing this behaviour much harder and is downright immoral.
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So? The fact of the manner is that millions more get a free education where otherwise they would have not. Very few of these turn out to be ignorant as the government officials in Uganda. Education liberates, regardless of who is the conveyor. |
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Over time, education makes the general populace wiser. A century ago, it was common practice to throw twins in the forest because they were evil. Other useless practices have been discarded over time, because of a rise in education which taught the populace the origin of twins. There are numerous examples.
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So homosexuality is 'a threat to cultural, religious and social values'? Abrahamic faiths are, so far as I'm aware, the only ones which seek to limit the scope of a man's penis. As societies which yet groan under the yoke of these three mythologies, and who have had no Reformation, are immersed in their mythology to the extent that their religion is all of life (as their every act and waking moment is governed by their faith's all-encompassing precepts), it is thus true to say that as their culture is a direct derivative of their mythology, and clearly 'social values' are no more than what defines the culture, we may say that this appalling movement to resurrect the Dark Ages in Uganda and elsewhere (including evangelical-America) is actually entirely a result of the belief that some non-existent fantasy ju-ju in the sky doesn't like homosexual sex.
Or, indeed, ANY sex; why else should most of the adherents of these pernicious faiths mutilate the genitalia of all its male children (who naturally get no say in the matter) in order to seriously impair their capacity to enjoy sex? |
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Author: ‘The Family’ behind proposed Ugandan law that would execute HIV+ men
The African nation of Uganda is weighing a bill that would impose the death penalty on HIV positive men who have committed what it calls "aggravated homosexuality." As if that were not shocking enough, a U.S. author is claiming that a secretive group of American politicians appear to be a driving force in seeing the proposal become law. The Anti-Homosexuality Bill 2009, heavily supported by Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, was first read in October, triggering a wave of condemnation. According to the gay blog Queerty, Joann Lockard, public affairs officer at the Kampala, Uganda embassy, said the law would "constitute a significant step backwards for the protection of human rights in Uganda." She added: "We urge states to take all necessary measures to ensure that sexual orientation or gender identity may under no circumstances be the basis for criminal penalties, in particular executions, arrests, or detention." While that condemnation by a U.S. official would seem reflexive, others in U.S. political circles are providing financial and political support for the bill's sponsors, according to author Jeff Sharlet. ![]() Sharlet's book "The Family" is an investigative look at a secretive group of fundamentalist Christian lawmakers in Washington, D.C. In a recent interview with NPR's Terry Gross, he broke the news that The Family's influence in Uganda is rife. "[The] legislator that introduced the bill, a guy named David Bahati, is a member of The Family," he said. "He appears to be a core member of The Family. He works, he organizes their Ugandan National Prayer Breakfast and oversees a African sort of student leadership program designed to create future leaders for Africa, into which The Family has poured millions of dollars working through a very convoluted chain of linkages passing the money over to Uganda." And how did Sharlet discover the connection? "You follow [the] money," he said. You look at their archives. You do interviews where you can. It's not so invisible anymore. So that's how working with some research colleagues we discovered that David Bahati, the man behind this legislation, is really deeply, deeply involved in The Family's work in Uganda, that the ethics minister of Uganda, Museveni's kind of right-hand man, a guy named Nsaba Buturo, is also helping to organize The Family's National Prayer Breakfast. And here's a guy who has been the main force for this Anti-Homosexuality Act in Uganda's executive office and has been very vocal about what he's doing, in a rather extreme and hateful way. But these guys are not so much under the influence of The Family. They are, in Uganda, The Family." Continues at... Author: ‘The Family’ behind proposed Ugandan law that would execute HIV+ men | Raw Story Highly recommend reading this book to fully understand the pure evil that is at the core of the Republican Party in the USA. |
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