A recommendation, request if you will.

Nick 0208 Ldn · 13th July 2008, 17:46

Some of you will be aware of the ongoing project that is the forum's adoption of Cordoba for the coming season. Now we do have a few resident Cordoba supporters who have found their way here but they are marooned in the Newbies.

They only have one main cause for visitng and that is to pass on info and interact with thsoe interested in their club's plight.

I am reliably infomred that a good proportion have sufficient English, you mods will also know if they have been sensible or not and i cannot imagine that they wouldn't be.

I would ask that the mods treat this as an exceptional case and promote them ahead of time so as to be able to talk in the thread in the Main Forum.

In a related matter, there is a Caf member in the Newbie Forum called fearghal, he has put himself out to try and better the community and bring info to others, i'd ecommend him for promotion.

Sultan · 13th July 2008, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

Some of you will be aware of the ongoing project that is the forum's adoption of Cordoba for the coming season. Now we do have a few resident Cordoba supporters who have found their way here but they are marooned in the Newbies.

They only have one main cause for visitng and that is to pass on info and interact with thsoe interested in their club's plight.

I am reliably infomred that a good proportion have sufficient English, you mods will also know if they have been sensible or not and i cannot imagine that they wouldn't be.

I would ask that the mods treat this as an exceptional case and promote them ahead of time so as to be able to talk in the thread in the Main Forum.

In a related matter, there is a Caf member in the Newbie Forum called fearghal, he has put himself out to try and better the community and bring info to others, i'd ecommend him for promotion.

I've checked out Fearghal - promoted.

As for others, my personal opinion is they need to go through the newbie process like the rest on the forum. I would think there would be a lot of disappointed genuine Manchester United if we made them a special case.

They can quite easily debate the issues in the newbie forum, and even send PM's if they need to post something significant in the main forum.

I am sure most mods, and admins will read this thread, and if they see fit, they can quite easily rep or promote any poster deemed worthy.

Brad · 13th July 2008, 23:53

Perhaps the answer to this is have a special stickied Cordoba thread in the newbie thread, and then someone with visible access can include any worthwhile contributions in the main forum thread whilst they 'endure' the newbie process?

golden_blunder · 14th July 2008, 00:28

ban them all i say

Wibble · 14th July 2008, 02:52

What is this support another club rubbish?

Nick 0208 Ldn · 14th July 2008, 04:05

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Originally Posted by Sultan

I've checked out Fearghal - promoted.

Thanks

Though, he was as far as i was aware the leadign advocate for the idea in the Newbie Forums, are there otehrs who will fill the void down there can you tell me?

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Originally Posted by Sultan

As for others, my personal opinion is they need to go through the newbie process like the rest on the forum. I would think there would be a lot of disappointed genuine Manchester United if we made them a special case.

They can quite easily debate the issues in the newbie forum, and even send PM's if they need to post something significant in the main forum.

I am sure most mods, and admins will read this thread, and if they see fit, they can quite easily rep or promote any poster deemed worthy.

Oh i do understand the position your'e in and some could see it as unfair.

On what basis do you judge people before promotion? If these Cordoba fans who have joined the caf comment on a fairly narrow range of subjects is taht going to seriously limit their chances?

fearghal was telling me that if there isn't a decent level of interaction they could very easily end up drifiting away. Talking through middle men is no favour to a good conversation.

Depending on the numbers involved it could take a little bit to setup, however one possible compromise could be a dedicated forum that is neither Main nor Newbie. Only people who asked would be given access on their user account, only they could see it.

It would be a pain to setup mind, i do have experience of a VB control panel . If you first thought it was worth doing and second trusted me, i could probably do all the boring legwork. A mere temporary arrangement.

Of course if the majority of mods and admins all view it as going beyond what is necessary, we'll simply have to be patient and hope they are promoted before the season is over.

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Originally Posted by Wibble

What is this support another club rubbish?

Well i wouldn't put it quite like that lol, more...following their season, learning.

There is no conflict. If it is popular enough for the duration, we could decide on a different club [also outside the top flight and of whom the majority have little knowledge of for 09/10.

jasonrh · 14th July 2008, 06:48

It is a bit 'support another club' and a bit rubbish, to be fair.

It would not be right to speed a bunch of opposition supporters through simply because Nick has adopted them.

Sultan · 14th July 2008, 08:25

Niall likes a clutter free forum Nick. He will not allow a sub-forum for another football team. An Admin/Mod has been kind enough to make a sticky in football forum, and with respect to what you are doing, and the Cordoba fans, that is as far as we can go.

Wibble · 14th July 2008, 11:17

Burn the heretic

Nick 0208 Ldn · 14th July 2008, 16:36

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

It is a bit 'support another club' and a bit rubbish, to be fair.

As you like then, if that is how you see it.

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

It would not be right to speed a bunch of opposition supporters through simply because Nick has adopted them.

You know, you could really do yourself a favour if before typing up a post three was a little bit of thought on your part. I mean it woudl have taken very littl effort [the reading of one post] to discover that there was a thread launched where everyone was able to put forward suggestions as to which team it should be, the final decision resting witht he majority.

Tell me jason, ia it a Cher scale cosmetic surgery habbit that causes you to have a constant sneer?

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Niall likes a clutter free forum Nick. He will not allow a sub-forum for another football team. An Admin/Mod has been kind enough to make a sticky in football forum, and with respect to what you are doing, and the Cordoba fans, that is as far as we can go.

No worries, i thought i woudl ask on the off chance, i would have been surprised to receive a yes.

The sticky should do fine.

Oh but the ptomotion process...

On what basis do you judge people before promotion? If these Cordoba fans who have joined the caf comment on a fairly narrow range of subjects is taht going to seriously limit their chances?

SmashedHombre · 14th July 2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

On what basis do you judge people before promotion? If these Cordoba fans who have joined the caf comment on a fairly narrow range of subjects is taht going to seriously limit their chances?

Not necessarily. Obviously we have the rep points where promotion is achieved automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. But to be honest the majority of promoted posters dont come close to reaching the required number of rep points, because they're spotted and promoted by an admin before they get a chance.

I read through the newbies every day and I know most of the mods/admins do. If we spot an intelligent/funny/well worded post then we will generally mention to the others to keep an eye on said poster. Assuming the poster comes up with a few more good posts and no stupid ones, we generally promote them early.

Its not a bad system and seems to be working ok, although obviously some loons somehow manage to trick the system and get promoted. No ones entirely sure how rimaldo got promoted, rest assured though we are looking into that one.

It will, as you say, be a shame to lose some of the better Cordoba posters if they get bored of the newbies and leave, but I'm not sure that can be helped. How many do you think are planning on signing up here? If there's a fair few then maybe Brads idea of a stickied Cordoba thread could work.

IBleedRed · 14th July 2008, 21:13

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Originally Posted by Wibble

What is this support another club rubbish?

fuck if i know

rimaldo · 14th July 2008, 21:13

i didn't even have to reach the required rep points. sultan spotted my undoubted potential.

SmashedHombre · 14th July 2008, 21:14

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Originally Posted by rimaldo

i didn't even have to reach the required rep points. sultan spotted my undoubted potential.

Sultan has a lot to answer for

rimaldo · 14th July 2008, 21:22

his pm promoting me explained how id only been here a week but in that time he'd seen so much from me that he planned to use me to replace one of the mod team, dead wood was the term he used. he said his target was someone called hashedsombre or something, i can't remember the exact name sultan gave me but i do rememer him saying he was incredibly gay.

SmashedHombre · 14th July 2008, 21:27

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Originally Posted by rimaldo

his pm promoting me explained how id only been here a week but in that time he'd seen so much from me that he planned to use me to replace one of the mod team, dead wood was the term he used. he said his target was someone called hashedsombre or something, i can't remember the exact name sultan gave me but i do rememer him saying he was incredibly gay.

No idea who that was. Probably one of the useless mods we let go a while back. I'll admit, you did show potential in the newbies. You are like the Luke Chadwick of the caf. You could have been the next SmashedHombre, but you lacked the mental attributes to deal with the pressure of following in such legendary footsteps, instead you went on to become just another marcosdeto. Plus you have a hideously ugly face that scares babies and small animals. Stop spamming the mod forum and nicks thread by the way.

rimaldo · 14th July 2008, 21:31

redcafe's luke chadwick. i like it.

my posts are always so insightful and full of well constructed points they could never be considered spam.

Nick 0208 Ldn · 14th July 2008, 21:34

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Originally Posted by SmashedHombre

Not necessarily. Obviously we have the rep points where promotion is achieved automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. But to be honest the majority of promoted posters dont come close to reaching the required number of rep points, because they're spotted and promoted by an admin before they get a chance.

I read through the newbies every day and I know most of the mods/admins do. If we spot an intelligent/funny/well worded post then we will generally mention to the others to keep an eye on said poster. Assuming the poster comes up with a few more good posts and no stupid ones, we generally promote them early.

Its not a bad system and seems to be working ok, although obviously some loons somehow manage to trick the system and get promoted. No ones entirely sure how rimaldo got promoted, rest assured though we are looking into that one.

It will, as you say, be a shame to lose some of the better Cordoba posters if they get bored of the newbies and leave, but I'm not sure that can be helped. How many do you think are planning on signing up here? If there's a fair few then maybe Brads idea of a stickied Cordoba thread could work.

Understood, hm.

Back in 04 when i joined i just remember receiving a PM from Bury Red telling me that i ahd been promoted [msut've been a slow week i guess].

As for their numbers, i honestly don't know, fearghal was running the show in the Newbies. He's bound to find this thread sooner or later.

olesmyhero · 14th July 2008, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

There is no conflict. If it is popular enough for the duration, we could decide on a different club [also outside the top flight and of whom the majority have little knowledge of] for 03/10.

Fuck me, that's a long season.

jasonrh · 17th July 2008, 08:15

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

Understood, hm.

Back in 04 when i joined i just remember receiving a PM from Bury Red telling me that i ahd been promoted [msut've been a slow week i guess].

As for their numbers, i honestly don't know, fearghal was running the show in the Newbies. He's bound to find this thread sooner or later.

When you were promoted there wasn't a points system yet, so it was a lot easier for good posters to get lost.

It is actually easier to get promoted now that it was when we all joined.

Aside from Smashed. No one likes Smashed but we felt sorry for him.

jasonrh · 17th July 2008, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Nick 0208 Ldn

As you like then, if that is how you see it.

You know, you could really do yourself a favour if before typing up a post three was a little bit of thought on your part. I mean it woudl have taken very littl effort [the reading of one post] to discover that there was a thread launched where everyone was able to put forward suggestions as to which team it should be, the final decision resting witht he majority.

Tell me jason, ia it a Cher scale cosmetic surgery habbit that causes you to have a constant sneer?

We've been very gracious with your pet project, and a mod has most kindly stickied the thread in which you're carrying out said pet project.

But when you start asking for sub-forums and such so that you can support other clubs or to promote people who support other teams simply for that reason alone, then that takes it too far.

Considering how kind we're being about the whole thing, I'm not sure where your venom is coming from when I point out it would be unfair to actual United supporters in the newbie to rush through Cordoba supporters because Nick and friends have adopted them.

You're welcome to your adoption, but there's only so far that we're going to be able to take it with you and be fair to the Caf and its users while meeting Niall's wishes for the forum.

Oh, and yes, I do have a permanent sneer. If you want it I'll sell it to you.

jasonrh · 17th July 2008, 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by rimaldo

i didn't even have to reach the required rep points. sultan spotted my undoubted potential.

He's always promoting the idiots, isn't he?

rimaldo · 17th July 2008, 08:40

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

He's always promoting the idiots, isn't he?

i couldn't possibly comment on that as i have not seen a comprehensive list of everyone he has promoted but i feel in my case the above statement is more than likely correct.

WeasteDevil · 17th July 2008, 09:32

I'm supporting the impending disaster that is Castellón.

topper · 17th July 2008, 13:03

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

I'm supporting the impending disaster that is Castellón.

¿ whats up with Castellon weastie ?

jasonrh · 18th July 2008, 07:02

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Originally Posted by rimaldo

i couldn't possibly comment on that as i have not seen a comprehensive list of everyone he has promoted but i feel in my case the above statement is more than likely correct.

Excellent.

Kiss me.

13th July 2008, 17:46	#1 (permalink)
Nick 0208 Ldn First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Londinium - Never stop dreaming. Posts: 6,357	A recommendation, request if you will. Some of you will be aware of the ongoing project that is the forum's adoption of Cordoba for the coming season. Now we do have a few resident Cordoba supporters who have found their way here but they are marooned in the Newbies. They only have one main cause for visitng and that is to pass on info and interact with thsoe interested in their club's plight. I am reliably infomred that a good proportion have sufficient English, you mods will also know if they have been sensible or not and i cannot imagine that they wouldn't be. I would ask that the mods treat this as an exceptional case and promote them ahead of time so as to be able to talk in the thread in the Main Forum. In a related matter, there is a Caf member in the Newbie Forum called fearghal, he has put himself out to try and better the community and bring info to others, i'd ecommend him for promotion.

13th July 2008, 23:53	#3 (permalink)
Brad The Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stockholm Posts: 19,205	Perhaps the answer to this is have a special stickied Cordoba thread in the newbie thread, and then someone with visible access can include any worthwhile contributions in the main forum thread whilst they 'endure' the newbie process?

14th July 2008, 00:28	#4 (permalink)
golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Swimming against a tide of shite Posts: 44,480	ban them all i say

14th July 2008, 02:52	#5 (permalink)
Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 34,689	What is this support another club rubbish?

14th July 2008, 06:48	#7 (permalink)
jasonrh Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: "You sir, are the syphilitic cockbiscuit son of a hamster rimmer."; "Sir Alex Ferguson, trainer of the English champions, wants to start the spoon fruits since early." Posts: 58,422	It is a bit 'support another club' and a bit rubbish, to be fair. It would not be right to speed a bunch of opposition supporters through simply because Nick has adopted them.

14th July 2008, 08:25	#8 (permalink)
Sultan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown Posts: 16,272	Niall likes a clutter free forum Nick. He will not allow a sub-forum for another football team. An Admin/Mod has been kind enough to make a sticky in football forum, and with respect to what you are doing, and the Cordoba fans, that is as far as we can go.

14th July 2008, 11:17	#9 (permalink)
Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 34,689	Burn the heretic

14th July 2008, 21:13	#13 (permalink)
rimaldo Out of the closet, into life. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: renowned and profound prophet of rimglish. Posts: 9,550	i didn't even have to reach the required rep points. sultan spotted my undoubted potential.

14th July 2008, 21:22	#15 (permalink)
rimaldo Out of the closet, into life. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: renowned and profound prophet of rimglish. Posts: 9,550	his pm promoting me explained how id only been here a week but in that time he'd seen so much from me that he planned to use me to replace one of the mod team, dead wood was the term he used. he said his target was someone called hashedsombre or something, i can't remember the exact name sultan gave me but i do rememer him saying he was incredibly gay.

14th July 2008, 21:31	#17 (permalink)
rimaldo Out of the closet, into life. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: renowned and profound prophet of rimglish. Posts: 9,550	redcafe's luke chadwick. i like it. my posts are always so insightful and full of well constructed points they could never be considered spam.

17th July 2008, 09:32	#24 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,158	I'm supporting the impending disaster that is Castellón.