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Old 8th August 2008, 18:05   #20001 (permalink)
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Impressively articulated article... I think most United fans would agree with that.
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:06   #20002 (permalink)
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If I had noticed the Custis thread earlier I would have merged it with this one. Now that thread has too many posts and merging it with this one would result in discussions being broken up. Bahama, please stop acting like a child. Stop creating unnecessary threads. We are not here to baby sit any of you.
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Spot on Marcus. Any and all Sun journalists can take their clever "Portuguese Winker" headlines and fuck right off.
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SAF thinks he'll be here more than one more season; clearly you know better..
Know i don't better. But what i do know is that we'll be in for 2-3 months of this shit again next summer regardless of whether he's going to leave or not.

Madrid will be back i'm afraid and will probably be more determined than ever to acquire our most valuable asset.
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:10   #20005 (permalink)
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Know i don't better. But what i do know is that we'll be in for 2-3 months of this shit again next summer regardless of whether he's going to leave or not.

Madrid will be back i'm afraid and will probably be more determined than ever to acquire our most valuable asset.
Depends. If Calderon is president or not. The new president might not want Ronaldo. Also, what might happen before next summer. For all we know, Ronaldo might sign an extension to his contract and they could make Kaka their sole target like last year.

Personally, I cba worrying about what might happen next summer. I just care about the present
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:13   #20006 (permalink)
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Know i don't better. But what i do know is that we'll be in for 2-3 months of this shit again next summer regardless of whether he's going to leave or not.

Madrid will be back i'm afraid and will probably be more determined than ever to acquire our most valuable asset.
They want to buy Old Trafford off us?
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:14   #20007 (permalink)
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You really think Fergie may stay more than the two years he said now that he's got Ronnie to stay on?
well it's not just ronaldo because there's a few young players that will excite him. I just think if Sir Alexs future is tied to Ronaldo as many people feel then maybe Sir Alex will fancy sticking around for a bit longer
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well it's not just ronaldo because there's a few young players that will excite him. I just think if Sir Alexs future is tied to Ronaldo as many people feel then maybe Sir Alex will fancy sticking around for a bit longer
So get behind him..
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:28   #20009 (permalink)
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They want to buy Old Trafford off us?
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Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon claims that if he fails to land Cristiano Ronaldo he will not attempt to make any other signings this summer.

"Either Cristiano Ronaldo comes or nobody does," Calderon is quoted as saying in Marca.


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Reason why Ronaldo is still at United has nothing to do with anything other than the fact Fergie wanted to keep his best player. I have no doubt the Glazers would've cashed in - marketability, brand and merchandising are all nonsense. No player is worth that much off field, no matter what Real and their spin doctors say. So, a huge transfer fee most likely would've swayed them. However, Fergie has enough clout to get what he wants at Old Trafford. There's not a chance he would've have liked or wanted to break up a European Cup winning team, let alone lose it's best player. Fergie wins againm but we'll just see how long he can hold on to Ronaldo, though.

In the meantime, it's operation 'win back the hearts and minds' by Ronaldo and his team.
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Old 8th August 2008, 18:56   #20012 (permalink)
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Reason why Ronaldo is still at United has nothing to do with anything other than the fact Fergie wanted to keep his best player. I have no doubt the Glazers would've cashed in - marketability, brand and merchandising are all nonsense. No player is worth that much off field, no matter what Real and their spin doctors say. So, a huge transfer fee most likely would've swayed them. However, Fergie has enough clout to get what he wants at Old Trafford. There's not a chance he would've have liked or wanted to break up a European Cup winning team, let alone lose it's best player. Fergie wins againm but we'll just see how long he can hold on to Ronaldo, though.

In the meantime, it's operation 'win back the hearts and minds' by Ronaldo and his team.
dunno about that, Spoons. Like I said earlier, he has always maintained that his OT stay is temporary at best and he will be open to a move every fucking summer. Given that, I for one, can't think of him any differently. A top player, who gave us great moments on the pitch, which I will always appreciate, but never someone as special to fans as a Giggsy or Scholes or Ole.

I repeat, this saga will be played out every summer until we decide that the time is right to cash in.
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:00   #20013 (permalink)
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It's just occured to me - Wouldn't it be funny if Tabasco Sauce logged on and decided to delete this thread just before it hits 20,000 posts?

BahamaRed's post count would drop down to the 7000s.
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:44   #20014 (permalink)
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So get behind him..
get behind who?

If you mean me? I'm behind him as a safe distance
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It's just occured to me - Wouldn't it be funny if Tabasco Sauce logged on and decided to delete this thread just before it hits 20,000 posts?

BahamaRed's post count would drop down to the 7000s.
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:55   #20016 (permalink)
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Pathetic ramblings from 'journalists' such as Custis and ill informed prejudiced comments from the likes of Alan Green will always leave me leaning towards defending the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo (whatever mistakes the individual in question has made). Players who have few friends in the English media are easy targets for articles such as the one from Custis today.

An article that blatantly appeals to the lowest common denominator containing tired and dated lexis such as 'winker' as well as phrases like 'one trick pony' simply cannot be taken seriously. What kind of professional journalist would use the phrase 'one trick pony' in describing an 18 year old who is quick, has two good feet and can head but lacks consistency?! I despair at times I really do.

Custis makes some points which could be deemed valid yet he ruins it by going completely over the top in a biased one sided article which i'm sure will no doubt influence some of the more gullible and easily led readers of his newspaper.

It seems that to be considered a legend at Manchester United football club longevity is a major factor which is totally fair and understandable. However, it is unfair to dismiss the contribution of someone who doesn't stay for ten years or more and yet has made a significant impact during his time at the club.

For example, players such as Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho didn't stay at Barcelona for the duration of their career yet they left an indelible mark on the club contributing enormously to its rich history. They came, they went, they were appreciated for what they did. We're going to see a lot more of this type of thing at Manchester United concerning European and South American players. It's not right, it's not wrong, it's just a different way of interpreting how you want your career to plan out.
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:57   #20017 (permalink)
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If I had noticed the Custis thread earlier I would have merged it with this one. Now that thread has too many posts and merging it with this one would result in discussions being broken up. Bahama, please stop acting like a child. Stop creating unnecessary threads. We are not here to baby sit any of you.
Please accept my sincerest apologies mehro. I just thought it was open day. Y'all do a good job as mods (most of the time)
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:58   #20018 (permalink)
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Pathetic ramblings from 'journalists' such as Custis and ill informed prejudiced comments from the likes of Alan Green will always leave me leaning towards defending the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo (whatever mistakes the individual in question has made). Players who have few friends in the English media are easy targets for articles such as the one from Custis today.



An article that blatantly appeals to the lowest common denominator containing tired and dated lexis such as 'winker' as well as phrases like 'one trick pony' simply cannot be taken seriously. What kind of professional journalist would use the phrase 'one trick pony' in describing an 18 year old who is quick, has two good feet and can head but lacks consistency?! I despair at times I really do.

Custis makes some points which could be deemed valid yet he ruins it by going completely over the top in a biased one sided article which i'm sure will no doubt influence some of the more gullible and easily led readers of his newspaper.

It seems that to be considered a legend at Manchester United football club longevity is a major factor which is totally fair and understandable. However, it is unfair to dismiss the contribution of someone who doesn't stay for ten years or more and yet has made a significant impact during his time at the club.

For example, players such as Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho didn't stay at Barcelona for the duration of their career yet they left an indelible mark on the club contributing enormously to its rich history. They came, they went, they were appreciated for what they did. We're going to see a lot more of this type of thing at Manchester United concerning European and South American players. It's not right, it's not wrong, it's just a different way of interpreting how you want your career to plan out.







excellent post
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:59   #20019 (permalink)
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Old 8th August 2008, 19:59   #20020 (permalink)
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It's just occured to me - Wouldn't it be funny if Tabasco Sauce logged on and decided to delete this thread just before it hits 20,000 posts?

BahamaRed's post count would drop down to the 7000s.
I'm not interested in post counts but to lose this legendary thread would be a shame.
Which reminds me.....is there any way to save a thread with all its posts?
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:02   #20021 (permalink)
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If I had noticed the Custis thread earlier I would have merged it with this one. Now that thread has too many posts and merging it with this one would result in discussions being broken up. Bahama, please stop acting like a child. Stop creating unnecessary threads. We are not here to baby sit any of you.
Nothing going on in that thread any more mehro....merging it into this one would be seamless and not a caftard would notice.....and of course it would edge this one nearer to nirvana
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:06   #20022 (permalink)
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Spot on Marcus. Any and all Sun journalists can take their clever "Portuguese Winker" headlines and fuck right off.
my attitude is this: this is rather like a family squabble, between us United fans and Ronaldo. are we upset at his antics over the summer? - of course! are we prepared to forgive him? - maybe, maybe not. but we'll support him as long as he wears the shirt.

this 'journalists' are just trying to insinuate themselves in something that doesn't concern them and pretend like they're on our side. i'd hope United fans all over realise this.
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:07   #20023 (permalink)
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Pathetic ramblings from 'journalists' such as Custis and ill informed prejudiced comments from the likes of Alan Green will always leave me leaning towards defending the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo (whatever mistakes the individual in question has made). Players who have few friends in the English media are easy targets for articles such as the one from Custis today.

An article that blatantly appeals to the lowest common denominator containing tired and dated lexis such as 'winker' as well as phrases like 'one trick pony' simply cannot be taken seriously. What kind of professional journalist would use the phrase 'one trick pony' in describing an 18 year old who is quick, has two good feet and can head but lacks consistency?! I despair at times I really do.

Custis makes some points which could be deemed valid yet he ruins it by going completely over the top in a biased one sided article which i'm sure will no doubt influence some of the more gullible and easily led readers of his newspaper.

It seems that to be considered a legend at Manchester United football club longevity is a major factor which is totally fair and understandable. However, it is unfair to dismiss the contribution of someone who doesn't stay for ten years or more and yet has made a significant impact during his time at the club.

For example, players such as Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho didn't stay at Barcelona for the duration of their career yet they left an indelible mark on the club contributing enormously to its rich history. They came, they went, they were appreciated for what they did. We're going to see a lot more of this type of thing at Manchester United concerning European and South American players. It's not right, it's not wrong, it's just a different way of interpreting how you want your career to plan out.
Fantastic post. Couldn't have put it better. Best post of this thread comfortably.
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:09   #20024 (permalink)
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When youre in the middle of a family squabble the last thing you want is the nosey twat who lives next door leaning through the window and giving his tuppence worth. Nothing is more likely to reunite the family than an outsider getting involved where he isnt wanted.
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:30   #20025 (permalink)
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Nothing going on in that thread any more mehro....merging it into this one would be seamless and not a caftard would notice.....and of course it would edge this one nearer to nirvana
Apart from this excellent post from CH7.

Pathetic ramblings from 'journalists' such as Custis and ill informed prejudiced comments from the likes of Alan Green will always leave me leaning towards defending the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo (whatever mistakes the individual in question has made). Players who have few friends in the English media are easy targets for articles such as the one from Custis today.

An article that blatantly appeals to the lowest common denominator containing tired and dated lexis such as 'winker' as well as phrases like 'one trick pony' simply cannot be taken seriously. What kind of professional journalist would use the phrase 'one trick pony' in describing an 18 year old who is quick, has two good feet and can head but lacks consistency?! I despair at times I really do.

Custis makes some points which could be deemed valid yet he ruins it by going completely over the top in a biased one sided article which i'm sure will no doubt influence some of the more gullible and easily led readers of his newspaper.

It seems that to be considered a legend at Manchester United football club longevity is a major factor which is totally fair and understandable. However, it is unfair to dismiss the contribution of someone who doesn't stay for ten years or more and yet has made a significant impact during his time at the club.

For example, players such as Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho didn't stay at Barcelona for the duration of their career yet they left an indelible mark on the club contributing enormously to its rich history. They came, they went, they were appreciated for what they did. We're going to see a lot more of this type of thing at Manchester United concerning European and South American players. It's not right, it's not wrong, it's just a different way of interpreting how you want your career to plan out.
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Reason why Ronaldo is still at United has nothing to do with anything other than the fact Fergie wanted to keep his best player. I have no doubt the Glazers would've cashed in - marketability, brand and merchandising are all nonsense. No player is worth that much off field, no matter what Real and their spin doctors say. So, a huge transfer fee most likely would've swayed them. However, Fergie has enough clout to get what he wants at Old Trafford. There's not a chance he would've have liked or wanted to break up a European Cup winning team, let alone lose it's best player. Fergie wins againm but we'll just see how long he can hold on to Ronaldo, though.

In the meantime, it's operation 'win back the hearts and minds' by Ronaldo and his team.
Unless he commits himself further than one year his marketability will take a big knock at United. Nike will be mightily pissed off with his antics. I can't see number seven being the best seller this year.

Did you notice in his hearts and minds game how he has blamed himself. He had absolutely no choice seeing he had to keep both Real and United sweet.

Fergie is trying to resolve the issue with statements saying he will stay beyond this season. Unless he signs a new shiny contract I can't see him winning back any fans - words are not enough.
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Old 8th August 2008, 20:41   #20027 (permalink)
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Unless he commits himself further than one year his marketability will take a big knock at United. Nike will be mightily pissed off with his antics. I can't see number seven being the best seller this year.

Did you notice in his hearts and minds game how he has blamed himself. He had absolutely no choice seeing he had to keep bot Real and United sweet.

Fergie is trying to resolve the issue with statements saying he will stay beyond this season. Unless he signs a new shiny contract I can't see him winning back any fans - words are not enough.
I think you're under-estimating the incredibly fickle nature of the average football fan.

Took "Greedabayor" just over 180 minutes to move the gooners from booing to a standing ovation. 180 minutes of a pre-season friendly.

As for the number 7 shirt. The CR7 fan-boys, all round the world, will keep that shirt top of the charts, right up until the moment he drops his shorts and takes a steaming dump in the centre-circle at Old Trafford. And probably a couple of weeks after that.
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I think he's a cnut.

Like most United supporters, yes.
Speak for yourself. I think he's a top player and will support him all the way this season.