ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

and thats just plain stupid, if he didn't want to be here then he wouldn't... what would stop him??

after you've all been telling us how much of cnut of he his....

The club has effectively blocked any potential Ronaldo-Madrid move. The intransigent stance adopted by Gill/Ferguson in highlighting the 4 year deal is the reason he is still here.

You are making out that his presence here for another season is because he had a miraculous change of heart. Tosh. He still wants out and will most likely be a Madrid player another year down the line.

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

Clever, I like that.

I am not denying a knee jerk reaction as a football fan. But everything I ever say regarding United is 100% genuine.

I don't believe him when he says he will play with his heart and soul. He is here because he has been told to be. He'll play for himself as always. That's fair enough, but I don't see why on earth I should be castigated for disliking him after his conduct.

Well - I don't think his conduct has been that bad tbh...

I'd like to play for Madrid sometime.

Actually, why not now?

It would rely on Utd agreeing of course - but Utd are supposed to be getting paid enough to be happy.

It's up to the clubs - I'll be happy playing for either.

(Oh b*gger - RM aren't bidding enough to interest a Utd unwilling to sell.)

I'm playing for Utd - I'd wanted to play for RM for a time if Utd agreed - I'm still a pro and will do my utmost for Utd who are a club I respect.

(All honest - and not disrespectful unless you think NO-ONE should EVER want to leave Utd for ANY reason.)

You might also add in what I think is an unrecorded prelude of 'hey look what I did - even better! - more money please. - NO!'.

Let's add - no transfer request - no 'I hate it' - no 'I'll go on strike' etc. etc.

So I don't see any reason for his conduct generating a strong dislike for him (as opposed to some measured criticism).

noodlehair · 8th August 2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

Okay, some posters have a huge dislike for him... fair enough. I think it's more different people than different opinions, you seem to take it very personally that he wishes to play for another team. Like Hargreaves and others before him. You seem to feel slighted by the fact that he didn't conduct his business in a fashion you find 'classy'. Big deal, when all is said and done don't you have bigger things to worry about in your lives.

Looking at the press coverage it would seem that its a manc meltdown when in all honesty it might be a conversation subject for most when bored but not much more. Those that are shouting the loudest (the cunt brigade) are drowning out the sensible posters who realise that while Ronaldo may have made mistakes and misled people etc, he is still like the rest of... a human being. If any of you were 'whiter than white' as you portray yourselves and want Ronaldo to be the world would be a better place and you would probably be out there right now righting the wrongs of the world, truth is, you aren't.

Get off your high horses.

This is over now so we should be looking forward, not going over what's been done to death because Custis 'of all people' has stoked it up again...

Of course you'll carry on...

None of that really makes much sense.

Fact is that if he comes back from injury, and continues being the best player in the world, or even just puts the effort in, all will soon be forgiven (if not forgotten) for so long as he's wearing a United shirt. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

but why try and pretend he hasn't acted disrespectfully, and like a half brained, spoilt idiot, when he quite clearly has? That's just as stupid.

Custis is right on that one point. Fans adore and remember most those who are commited to the club, and who give everything for the cause. Ronaldo only plays for himself. Anyone in any doubt about that will surely have been awoken to the fact over the course of the summer.

That's fine, so long as he's playing for himself in a United shirt. The second he isn't though, what reason is there left to like him? If he doesn't care about the club, the fans wont care about him.

RedPhil1957 · 8th August 2008, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

You are buying into the SAF-hairdryer myth too much mate.

Take Ronaldo out of our team and we would have been potless last season. SAF knows that. Ronaldo knows that. We all pretty much know that. It would just be nice if Ronaldo received that praise with some humility.

It think you are completely wrong, SAF is very committed to the status of United as a club and letting a player take the piss would be high on his list of sins.......... there is no hint of anger when he talks about Ronaldo just satisfaction that he is staying.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Well - I don't think his conduct has been that bad tbh...

I'd like to play for Madrid sometime.

Actually, why not now?

It would rely on Utd agreeing of course - but Utd are supposed to be getting paid enough to be happy.

It's up to the clubs - I'll be happy playing for either.

(Oh b*gger - RM aren't bidding enough to interest a Utd unwilling to sell.)

I'm playing for Utd - I'd wanted to play for RM for a time if Utd agreed - I'm still a pro and will do my utmost for Utd who are a club I respect.

(All honest - and not disrespectful unless you think NO-ONE should EVER want to leave Utd for ANY reason.)

You might also add in what I think is an unrecorded prelude of 'hey look what I did - even better! - more money please. - NO!'.

So I don't see any reason for his conduct generating a strong dislike for him (as opposed to some measured criticism).

I'm not getting into a debate about the rights and wrongs of disliking him. That is a personal opinion, that in my case, has been steadfast and unchanging over the summer. From start to end, I have advocated selling him, so there is no fairweather element there.

His posturing and flirtation with the media has been an embarrasment. He agreed with Blatter, and since both have tried to backtrack - that was the most disgraceful part of the whole saga.

At the start of the summer he said, "I stay", yet he let the whole saga stretch out.

If he had for one minute used his brain and come out (minus all the media BS) and just said, "Listen, I have had 5 great years here but now I want to go elsewhere," the backlash would have been way less. What could we have said? We'd have been gutted, but we would have really had no ammunition to gun him down as we now do.

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:02

Its not pretending Noodle, it's just not caring that much about it... it's over. I speak for myself when I say I have bigger things to worry about....

And also, in your post you say all will be forgiven soon... thats not what I've been reading on here the past month. If that's what you think then my post isn't aimed at you is it?

nickm · 8th August 2008, 22:04

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Originally Posted by poisson

Well, what a cunt he is then!
Lets forget what he's achieved for the team and for himself the last 2 years.

BUT letting the transfer saga 'rumble on for two months' OH DEAR GOD, Thats just unheard of, blasphemous, He should be speared to death, gutted, then fed to the dogs.

No, he should just be labeled a cunt.

He pissed all over my summer. He's lost my respect. He needs to earn it back. Until he does, he's a cnut in my eyes.

RedPhil1957 · 8th August 2008, 22:04

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

None of that really makes much sense.

Fact is that if he comes back from injury, and continues being the best player in the world, or even just puts the effort in, all will soon be forgiven (if not forgotten) for so long as he's wearing a United shirt. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

but why try and pretend he hasn't acted disrespectfully, and like a half brained, spoilt idiot, when he quite clearly has? That's just as stupid.

Custis is right on that one point. Fans adore and remember most those who are commited to the club, and who give everything for the cause. Ronaldo only plays for himself. Anyone in any doubt about that will surely have been awoken to the fact over the course of the summer.

That's fine, so long as he's playing for himself in a United shirt. The second he isn't though, what reason is there left to like him? If he doesn't care about the club, the fans wont care about him.

I love the way you have all become experts on what drives Ronaldo.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:05

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

It think you are completely wrong, SAF is very committed to the status of United as a club and letting a player take the piss would be high on his list of sins.......... there is no hint of anger when he talks about Ronaldo just satisfaction that he is staying.

Maybe so, but maybe you relax your code of conduct when you are dealing with a 42 goal player.

Plus, why should he be angry? He has achieved his objective of keeping the lad here. Now he is in a position where he has to be a bit of a diplomat and so he has to put up this positive front to bring Ronaldo back in - good management.

But, if I had to wager any money, I'd say that SAF was pretty damn narked at "our Ronnie".

RedPhil1957 · 8th August 2008, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

I'm not getting into a debate about the rights and wrongs of disliking him. That is a personal opinion, that in my case, has been steadfast and unchanging over the summer. From start to end, I have advocated selling him, so there is no fairweather element there.

His posturing and flirtation with the media has been an embarrasment. He agreed with Blatter, and since both have tried to backtrack - that was the most disgraceful part of the whole saga.

At the start of the summer he said, "I stay", yet he let the whole saga stretch out.

If he had for one minute used his brain and come out (minus all the media BS) and just said, "Listen, I have had 5 great years here but now I want to go elsewhere," the backlash would have been way less. What could we have said? We'd have been gutted, but we would have really had no ammunition to gun him down as we now do.

I bet you do not even know exactly what Blatter said!

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:06

Christ, Ronnie is not being kept here against his will ... I hope this helps.

Classy Cannon · 8th August 2008, 22:07

I've actually found myself singing Viva Ronaldo a few times since yesterday, so sub-conciously, deep down, I must be glad he's staying. I don't think I'll ever feel the same about Ronaldo again, but now it's time to put it behind us, toe the party line, blame it on Real & get behind the team.

Fucked if I'm ever gonna agree with Cuntis!

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

I love the way you have all become experts on what drives Ronaldo.

I don't get what you are arguing

Do you agree he has acted in a crap manner? Or are you happy to let that slide just because he has been railroaded into staying? I wish I knew such forgiving people. That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.

nickm · 8th August 2008, 22:08

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Originally Posted by poisson

So people are unhappy about the way he went about the whole transfer saga.

Did he criticize the club? NO
Did he criticize the fans? NO
Did he criticize the manager? NO
Did he criticize the posters of Redcafe? NO

What did he do wrong?
Did he criticize the club? NO
Did he criticize the fans? NO
Did he criticize the manager? NO
Did he criticize the posters of Redcafe? NO

What did he do wrong?

He lied.

He tried to wriggle out of his contract.

He actively courted one our biggest European rivals.

He acted like a cnut.

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:09

Feed me, So you're going to boo him? Congratulations...

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

His posturing and flirtation with the media has been an embarrasment. He agreed with Blatter, and since both have tried to backtrack - that was the most disgraceful part of the whole saga.

His agreement with Blatter, in terms of what remarks he intended ,were the subject of considerable debate.

We still have only the one portrayal of the context of the question - on which basis I would (as posted) have judged it as 'abhorrent' - although the only such remark he made. No alternative or corroborative translations of both question and answer in context have been given despite appeals.

Is it a back-track or a clarification? Given how much we have all seen the media distort the content of statements to suit their agendas, why do you insist that the most reprehensible interpretations of Ronaldo's remarks here are the right ones?

Apart from that, all he's done is speak the truth - too many fans cannot deal with that it seems.

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:10

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Originally Posted by nickm

He lied.

He tried to wriggle out of his contract.

He actively courted one our biggest European rivals.

He acted like a cnut.

How did he actually try to wriggle out of his contract, without handing in a transfer request

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:11

You know what? I give up... waste of time. Viva Ronaldo!

noodlehair · 8th August 2008, 22:11

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Originally Posted by ThatOldRedMagic

He's been foolish. How many of us have not? But in his case there have been many elements in the saga which have contributed to his indecision, perhaps even confusion. No doubt, at the luxurious remove of being detached from it all; not required to consider the facts and make decisions, we can all assume the comfortable role of armchair pundits. One is reminded of Shakespeare's words 'What the great will do, the poor will prate on'.

All such pundits reveal themselves as prurient observers, each with his or her own version of the great wisdom, which they believe they bring to a debate in which they are luxuriously untroubled by the fine details or the personal angles which so affect the nuanced outcome of that reality which only the object of their speculation can truly know.

Hence, one wearily concludes, the eternal popularity of such mindless tracts as 'Hello' magazine or the gossip columns of various newspapers.

Football's a fickle game mate. Players are loved or despised by thousands based on no more than what shirt they're wearing.

Ronaldo's no more or less imune than anyone else, and he's old enough to be aware of his actions. If he'd engaged his brain and grown a pair before acting out, he could have sat there having made his intentions clear to the club, without anyone thinking any less of him.

He didn't. Obviously different people will see it in a different way, but you can't blame football fans for acting like football fans.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:12

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

I bet you do not even know exactly what Blatter said!

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Earlier this month, Blatter waded into the controversy over the Ronaldo transfer saga by saying he believed a "solution should be found" to clear the air for the player to join Madrid, if he so wished.

"If he stays at a club where he does not feel comfortable to play then it's not good for the player and for the club," Blatter said.

"I'm always in favour of protecting the player and if the player… wants to leave, let him leave."

He added: "I think in football there's too much modern slavery in transferring players or buying players here and there, and putting them somewhere.

"[Fifa] are trying now to intervene in such cases."

Basically saying that clubs happily move players around like slaves when it suits them and as such players should be able to move around when the mood takes them.

The very fact that the FIFA president dared to bring slavery into the debate is embarrassing and offensive. Even if the players are sometimes sold against their will, to liken them to slaves is a joke.

Blatter has since tried to backtrack from his statements by saying he was totally misquoted and his comments have been distorted. This man has an entire catalogue of spastic quotes.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

Feed me, So you're going to boo him? Congratulations...

You well versed in putting words in other people's mouths.

All I have said is that his conduct has been shit and I have no respect for him. There is very little warm feeling from me towards him. Big deal; like he gives a fuck what Feed Me of Redcafe thinks.

As an aside, I wouldn't boo a United player at a United game - counter productive.

Livvie · 8th August 2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by ThatOldRedMagic

The article is tabloid, populist shite of the worst kind. If you can't see that it's just plain sad.

The fact that some are siding with an ABU wum-merchant however, is, sad to say, far more than merely sad. It's disgraceful.

Siding with "an ABU wum-merchant" (shouldn't that be wu-merchant) shows that people aren't necessarily programmed to automatically discard an opinion just because it's being given by someone they don't much care for. There are those who refuse to acknowledge anything said by someone like Custis just because they don't like what's been said in the past.

That's not a lot better than behaving ike you've been brainwashed. There's a lot in that article that's true, and if you choose not to see it that way, that's your choice...don't call those of us who see it differently "sad" and "disgraceful".

RedPhil1957 · 8th August 2008, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

I don't get what you are arguing

Do you agree he has acted in a crap manner? Or are you happy to let that slide just because he has been railroaded into staying? I wish I knew such forgiving people. That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.

I say we know nothing about his motives and who or what pressures have been placed on him, family etc have a big influence on most peoples lives.
I have always thought he believed that if Madrid offered mega bucks and the clubs were happy then great he has his dream challenge but when SAF informed him that not only were United not interested in any offer but no offer had ever been made he is quite happy to stay and he will try and be the best he can. He could have asked for a transfer (and money would not have been a factor in that) which have put the club if a much more difficult position but chose not to.

KeyserSoze · 8th August 2008, 22:16

The way people offer only their own opinion dressed up in fancy words then try to downgrade the opinions of others on this issue at the same time is beyond belief!

Ronaldo himself has admitted he did some wrong, now the issue is over for the meanwhile.

It will be good for this place when it is not discussed anymore and the new season is on the agenda.

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 22:18

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Originally Posted by nickm

He lied.

Of what remarks are you thinking? Was that a lie, or change of mind? Evidence?

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Originally Posted by nickm

He tried to wriggle out of his contract.

Nope - he acknowledged the extent to which Utd's contract gave them control. That same contract would have ensured as much financial reward as they wanted to insist upon - the figure would be higher since he had recently extended it. (All in Utd's favour tbh.)

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Originally Posted by nickm

He actively courted one our biggest European rivals.

To the extent that the only club to which he expressed interest in moving is one of our rivals - yes. Did you expect him to want to move to Cordoba?

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Originally Posted by nickm

He acted like a cnut.

Not to the extent of many 'fans' on here tbh.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

His agreement with Blatter in terms of what remarks he intended were the subject of considerable debate.

We still have only the one portrayal of the context of the question - on which basis I would (as posted) have judged it as 'abhorrent' - although the only such remark he made. No alternative or corroborative translations of both question and answer in context have been given despite appeals.

Is it a back-track or a clarification? Given how much we have all seen the media distort the content of statements to suit their agendas, why do you insist that the most reprehensible interpretations of Ronaldo's remarks here are the right ones?

Apart from that, all he's done is speak the truth - too many fans cannot deal with that it seems.

Spoken the truth? Er, no. He has never come out and told us what the feck he was doing. He left it to insidious Marca/RM driven campaigns to engineer his transfer. His constant, "I will comment in two weeks" statements allowed the whole thing to drag on and on and on and on...

He courted the attention and he fuelled the fire with his deafening silence.

You are completely wrong in your assertions. Until yesterday he never told the truth or spoke with any clarity.

Sometimes you have to read between the lines - Ronaldo clearly had an agenda and went about it in a very unclassy way. It is undeniable.

afrocentricity · 8th August 2008, 22:19

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

You well versed in putting words in other people's mouths.

All I have said is that his conduct has been shit and I have no respect for him. There is very little warm feeling from me towards him. Big deal; like he gives a fuck what Feed Me of Redcafe thinks.

As an aside, I wouldn't boo a United player at a United game - counter productive.

Fair enough mate, just picked up on this in your post 'That lad deserves a bit of shoddy fan treatment, if anything, to deflate his enormous ego.' so not exactly putting words in your mouth.

noodlehair · 8th August 2008, 22:20

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

I love the way you have all become experts on what drives Ronaldo.

Come on. It's been written all over everything he does since the second he's arrived at the club.

Take Rooney as a comparative example. Wayne Rooney's objective is Manchester United doing well, and Wayne Rooney doing well for Manchester United.

Christiano Ronaldo's objective is Christiano Ronaldo doing well, and looking good, for Manchester United.

If he gave a shit about the club he wouldn't have spent half the summer pissing on it.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:20

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

I say we know nothing about his motives and who or what pressures have been placed on him, family etc have a big influence on most peoples lives.
I have always thought he believed that if Madrid offered mega bucks and the clubs were happy then great he has his dream challenge but when SAF informed him that not only were United not interested in any offer but no offer had ever been made he is quite happy to stay and he will try and be the best he can. He could have asked for a transfer (and money would not have been a factor in that) which have put the club if a much more difficult position but chose not to.

I don't get this notion of a transfer request making United's life any more difficult.

-He would still have the same length contract.
-The fact is, even without the transfer request, we all knew he wanted to go.

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 22:21

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

Ronaldo's no more or less imune than anyone else, and he's old enough to be aware of his actions. If he'd engaged his brain and grown a pair before acting out, he could have sat there having made his intentions clear to the club, without anyone thinking any less of him.

He didn't. Obviously different people will see it in a different way, but you can't blame football fans for acting like football fans.

So you'd think better of him if he'd lied?

nickm · 8th August 2008, 22:21

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

Fans adore and remember most those who are commited to the club, and who give everything for the cause.

Agreed. You can't on one hand laud Keane for being a hero without having a sense of what it is that we value in players like him, and therefore what we despise in others.

We value loyalty, honesty, commitment, respect for club traditions. Those help define club legends. Ronaldo has demonstrated none of those. If Keane is a hero, Ronaldo is a cnut.

He is our cnut though. He can earn our respect back. Let's hope he does.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:22

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

Come on. It's been written all over everything he does since the second he's arrived at the club.

Take Rooney as a comparative example. Wayne Rooney's objective is Manchester United doing well, and Wayne Rooney doing well for Manchester United.

Christiano Ronaldo's objective is Christiano Ronaldo doing well, and looking good, for Manchester United.

If he gave a shit about the club he wouldn't have spent half the summer pissing on it.

Can't be arsed to find quotes, but this is the gist of it.

Rooney: I want to stay here as long as they want me.
SAF: Rooney is the ultimate team player. Sacrifices himself.

Ronaldo: It is my dream to play for Madrid. It is my dream to win the Ballon d'Or.

rednev · 8th August 2008, 22:23

In my view, all he's guilty of is being an arrogant and slightly naive prick.

But that's him all over, it's always been the way he's acted. He's our prick. It doesn't bother me one bit. It could have been a lot worse, he could have tried to force a transfer through by threatening not to play.

This summer will all seem like a distant memory by the time he's banging in the goals half way through next season...Viva Ronaldo.

noodlehair · 8th August 2008, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

So you'd think better of him if he'd lied?

He did lie.

I'd have thought better of him if he'd kept his mouth shut and handled the matter with the club, rather than making some bizarre and obviously doomed attempt to cut them out of the equation.

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

Basically saying that clubs happily move players around like slaves when it suits them and as such players should be able to move around when the mood takes them.

The very fact that the FIFA president dared to bring slavery into the debate is embarrassing and offensive. Even if the players are sometimes sold against their will, to liken them to slaves is a joke.

Blatter has since tried to backtrack from his statements by saying he was totally misquoted and his comments have been distorted. This man has an entire catalogue of spastic quotes.

Except the remarks about slaves were made in response to an entirely separate question to that containing the name Ronaldo. The 2 disparate items: Ronaldo and slavery, were only connected by the media later - not by Blatter it appears.

In the course of a longish interview he'd answered one question about football in general when he apparently wanted to refer to dubious practices that do exist, likening them to a 'modern slavery'. In an entirely separate question he was asked about Ronaldo apparently being unhappy and wishing to move - he thought that it was best if the players were happy. Only the media decided he'd called Ronaldo a slave - there was little evidence he had done so.

I still think it's likely that Blatter knew how the 2 nearby remarks might get spun. It still dosn't mean that Ronaldo's agreement with Blatter agreed with the spin rather than his remarks though.

Blatter's still a pillock - Ronaldo is still not a c*nt.

nickm · 8th August 2008, 22:28

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

How did he actually try to wriggle out of his contract, without handing in a transfer request

In case you hadn't noticed, by agitating for a move, by practically begging Real to stump up the money for a move, by agreeing with Sepp Blatter's ludicrous comments than he should be "allowed" to transfer to Madrid. All designed to pressure United into letting him break his contract.

VP · 8th August 2008, 22:30

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

Come on. It's been written all over everything he does since the second he's arrived at the club.

Take Rooney as a comparative example. Wayne Rooney's objective is Manchester United doing well, and Wayne Rooney doing well for Manchester United.

Christiano Ronaldo's objective is Christiano Ronaldo doing well, and looking good, for Manchester United.

If he gave a shit about the club he wouldn't have spent half the summer pissing on it.

I agree to some extent. But you're overestimating Rooney's loyalty. He'd leave as soon as United become shit and I wouldn't put him on the same level as a Scholes, Giggs and Ole.

RedPhil1957 · 8th August 2008, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

I don't get this notion of a transfer request making United's life any more difficult.

-He would still have the same length contract.
-The fact is, even without the transfer request, we all knew he wanted to go.

Oh come on Uniteds position would have been virtually untenable ......... there was enough crap about keeping unhappy players without him making any such request can't you imagine every political animal in the world of football would have had their say and both fifa and uefa would be far more likely to be in Madrids camp than ours.

Feed Me · 8th August 2008, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Except the remarks about slaves were made in response to an entirely separate question to that containing the name Ronaldo. The 2 disparate items: Ronaldo and slavery, were only connected by the media later - not by Blatter it appears. In the course of a longish interview he'd answered one question about football in general when he aparently wanted to refer to dubious practices that do exist. In an entirely separate question he was asked about Ronaldo apparently being unhappy and wishing to move - he thought that it was best if the players were happy. Only the media decided he'd called Ronaldo a slave - there was little evidence he had done so.

I still think it's likely that Blatter knew how the 2 nearby remarks might get spun. It still dosn't mean that Ronaldo's agreement with Blatter agreed with the spin rather than his remarks though.

That is the big issue. By the time Ronaldo was asked about Blatter's comments, he will have been very aware, as we all were, that Blatter had cooked up a storm with his interview. Ronaldo's best course of action would have been to have distanced himself from these quotes, but he is reported to have agreed with the sentiments. Stupidity in the extreme that is...

Feedingseagulls · 8th August 2008, 22:31

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Originally Posted by noodlehair

you can't blame football fans for acting like football fans.

True - but you can blame them for acting like mentally retarded delusional football fans.

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8th August 2008, 22:02	#20086 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 10,216	Its not pretending Noodle, it's just not caring that much about it... it's over. I speak for myself when I say I have bigger things to worry about.... And also, in your post you say all will be forgiven soon... thats not what I've been reading on here the past month. If that's what you think then my post isn't aimed at you is it?

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afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 10,216	Christ, Ronnie is not being kept here against his will ... I hope this helps.

8th August 2008, 22:07	#20092 (permalink)
Classy Cannon Left Back in the changing room Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the Edge Posts: 2,773	I've actually found myself singing Viva Ronaldo a few times since yesterday, so sub-conciously, deep down, I must be glad he's staying. I don't think I'll ever feel the same about Ronaldo again, but now it's time to put it behind us, toe the party line, blame it on Real & get behind the team. Fucked if I'm ever gonna agree with Cuntis!

8th August 2008, 22:09	#20095 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 10,216	Feed me, So you're going to boo him? Congratulations...

8th August 2008, 22:11	#20098 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 10,216	You know what? I give up... waste of time. Viva Ronaldo!

8th August 2008, 22:16	#20104 (permalink)
KeyserSoze Batigol > Bauer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Batigol Posts: 9,184	The way people offer only their own opinion dressed up in fancy words then try to downgrade the opinions of others on this issue at the same time is beyond belief! Ronaldo himself has admitted he did some wrong, now the issue is over for the meanwhile. It will be good for this place when it is not discussed anymore and the new season is on the agenda.

8th August 2008, 22:23	#20113 (permalink)
rednev God Save My Gracious Queen Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,219	In my view, all he's guilty of is being an arrogant and slightly naive prick. But that's him all over, it's always been the way he's acted. He's our prick. It doesn't bother me one bit. It could have been a lot worse, he could have tried to force a transfer through by threatening not to play. This summer will all seem like a distant memory by the time he's banging in the goals half way through next season...Viva Ronaldo.