ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

Raven Blade · 10th August 2008, 18:00

Ronaldo is one of us again. How much longer can this thread go on for?

Maciek · 10th August 2008, 18:02

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Originally Posted by RealMadridF

Crowds were unsettled in Madrid due to this transfer fiasco. The first thing any Madrid fan wanted is to put all those talks to bed, even . Ronaldo would have had a negative effect on the team most probably, and for the speculated money, we could have sorted both CB and LB positions and the striker department.

Yeah, but when I was reading Real Madrid fans websites to see what they think about possible Ronaldo transfer, all of them were writing it would be fantastic to sign so wonderful player who scored 42 goals last season and helped his team to win Premier League and Champions League. When 'Marca' was writing all the lies, they believed it could be true and their cocks were probably out. But after Ronaldo's decision to stay at Manchester United they have started writing he isn't great footballer, he can't play against best teams and he seems to be a gay. It's all about Real Madrid fans. I am sure, if next year Calderon will say Ronaldo would be good transfer and he will do everything to buy him, all the fans say he is fantastic and he definitely could make their team better.

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Originally Posted by RealMadridF

Robinho wants to stay at the club, his agent is the one fueling all those rumours, Calderon and of course Chelsea. Don't even try to compare this scenario with Ronaldo's where the later has admitted of being a Real Madrid fan. I do admit Calderon has been a disgrace in his treatment of Robinho, but heck, even so, the player never mentioned any desire to move, which outlines his commitment to the club.

Why can't we compare this situation to Ronaldo's one?

Ronaldo said he is Real Madrid fan and would like to play someday in Spain. Robinho said he would like to play in Chelsea. If Ronaldo was named as a 'slave' because he is Real Madrid fan, what about Robinho? I really hope Chelsea will sign Robinho and you won't have neither Robinho nor Ronaldo. And even if the qoutes about Robinho and his request to join Chelsea aren't truth, what would you said now, after all the 'quotes' while we were living on Ronaldo's transfer saga?

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Originally Posted by RealMadridF

I don't expect Real Madrid to win next year's CL, heck, I hope we reach a fkin' quarter final. I do however expect us to have more of a go in 2/3 years time, when the final will be played at our ground. By that time, it's hopeful that we repair that side of the game that has cost us dearly over the last years.

You see, that's what we are about. Manchester United has a team capable of retain the Champions League trophy, but even Real Madrid fan think 'Galacticos' won't win it. I really respect you for that, you write truth and you don't want to lie only because you are writing about your club.

So, how can you still say United isn't better than Real Madrid?

John_Jensen · 10th August 2008, 18:08

As much as i enjoyed their attempts to undermine Utd in this close season, Madrid is the biggest shithole of the footballing universe. They epitomise everything thats wrong with modern day football

jojojo · 10th August 2008, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven_Blade

Ronaldo is one of us again. How much longer can this thread go on for?

Until shutting it down won't mean that we've got half a dozen Ronaldo newspaper article / Calderon / fan reaction threads the following day? It's tidy where it is. When it dies from disuse it'll die - unless of course someone posts about why not close it.

Kelvin · 10th August 2008, 18:39

oh so lonely

Top · 10th August 2008, 18:41

He was talking on the phone during the match, the move is obviously still very much on...

loki · 10th August 2008, 18:44

If Real push with that compensation bid over a contract agreed with Ronaldo, then that would automatically prove tapping up since we never accepted a bid, and since the approach is illegal can any contract signed then be void?

Its complete media bullshit.

::sonny:: · 10th August 2008, 18:57

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Originally Posted by redspoony

That's fucking hysterical. If Madrid do go ahead and sue Ronaldo then they're making an admission of "guilt" re tapping him up! I wonder if FIFA mnight reconsider taking no action against Madrid if this sorry little rumour came to fruition!

Agreed

topper · 10th August 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by loki

If Real push with that compensation bid over a contract agreed with Ronaldo, then that would automatically prove tapping up since we never accepted a bid, and since the approach is illegal can any contract signed then be void?

Its complete media bullshit.

sense enfin

jojojo · 10th August 2008, 19:15

I hope he checked what he was signing

Stan Jefferson · 10th August 2008, 19:30

Madrid = Arsehole of Modern Football

I for one thought they were all a bunch of twats before this ronaldo saga

x42bn6 · 10th August 2008, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Jensen

As much as i enjoyed their attempts to undermine Utd in this close season, Madrid is the biggest shithole of the footballing universe. They epitomise everything thats wrong with modern day football

That would be a combination of Real Madrid and Chelsea, actually.

If Real Madrid had Chelsea's funds...

cj_sparky · 10th August 2008, 19:41

I always enjoyed watching Madrid in the past. I have to say their pursuit of Ronaldo has made me ditest a club I once enjoyed watching as a nutral, I even enjoyed the way they played last season!

Truth is that football is football is cut throat Madrid unsettled Ronaldo when he was away from Old Trafford and not with Sir Alex for advice. If the story in the NOTW about taking Ronnie's agent to court was even half true then we would have all the evidence we would need to persue the fact they have tapped up Ronaldo!

We unsettled Hargreaves in a similar way, but we actual had many negotiations with Bayern and made offers. Real have created a media frenzy and made only one bid and after the event fed story upon story to Marca.

Chelsea are doing it right now saying publically that they are courting Robinho and that they want him. This has unsettled him in exactly the same way, as only weeks or so ago he was happy at Real now his agent is saying he is dissullsioned.

Football is cut throat and Fergie is no Angel he has tapped up Stam, Robben and Mexes in the past. Robben and Mexes had tours of Old Trafford and the training ground whilst still under contract.

As for being biased......this is a MAN UTD forum! We are passionate about the Red Devils and we'll defend them til the end of time!

sincher · 10th August 2008, 19:48

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Originally Posted by RealMadridF

Having recently discovered this site, couldn't believe how biased some here are that I had to make comments, albeit in this Newbie forum, I don't care.
Take it for granted, I do not approve this anti Real Madrid stance most have taken and why should I when all this fiasco was more or less generated by C Ronaldo's dream move comments. Sure, Calderon has maybe overstated our intrest in Ronaldo, but heck, if Ronaldo had any decency he would have had said it from the start that he's staying, avoiding all this media talk. So please, don't mock the club Real Madrid, mock your player who's a spoilt child. No true Madrista wants Ronaldo, I can inform you that.

My second point is regarding all this English Premier League hype that is getting out of hand. What, just because EPL clubs had nice representation in this year's CL, we'll label the other league's as rubbish? Admittedly, the big clubs in Italy lack money( or better said, lack of motivated investors, talking about Berlusconi, the second richest owner in football behind Abra, refusing to spend on the club's well being), while the ones in Spain have been badly managed and are behind their English counterparts but that's it. The Spanish, Italian and English midlevel are on par, the bottom is probably superior in Spain and in Italy. And really, it's not about leagues, but about nationality as well. What's with this Spanish and Italian hatred? Envy them for having better player than England?

This hype has lead to bad ratings. Take the Villa vs Berbatov thread for example. How can anyone call Villa overrated on the backing of what, one season? Even for that season, Villa has all the excuses in the world. I mean when you play with a bunch of idiotic missfits under the guidance of a madman coach you are bound to underperform. Villa has proven himself over the years, his game is absolutely top class and he is a natural finisher. The only reason Villa isn't at Liverpool is because of that 30 million price tag which is as true as it gets. If we are going to use the way of measurment some do here, then let's take Wayne Rooney, who by those standards is probably the most overrated player on Earth. He's overrated anyway, potential potential, but you know what, you can't keep on living on the backing this "potential". People here find excuses for Wayne, when it's obvious that for the last 2 season's he hasn't performed. He plays an important role for Manchester United, so his absence will lead to MUFC underperforming, nevertheless, the level of performance he has put in the last years has been... average. But let's leave Rooney out of this, for my money, Villa is a better player than Torres. The later is performing because EPL football basically matches all his strengths. In Spain, the gulf of class was ever so evident.

There are more points I'd like to make, but I'll end it here. I understand this is a Manchester United fan forum, but stop living in that dream world, ok? Well done on a double, but sitting on your laurels will only take you back to the 1999-2003 era. Good luck this coming season.

Some fair points in there, but surely you can see Calderon has acted disgracefully in all this - he ended up embarrassing himself, thankfully, but he certainly was arrogant enough to assume that the deal would go ahead regardless of what United thought.

Plan M · 10th August 2008, 19:51

Isn't this a Manchester United forum? There is bound to be bias!

VidaRed · 10th August 2008, 20:06

media bollocks

how low can madrid fall

Sultan · 10th August 2008, 20:09

RealMadridF:

Nothing against the Spanish league or the Madrid fans, so I can't really see why you need to bring this argument into the Ronaldo debate - Granted Ronaldo played a big part in all the nonsense, but Calderon with his daily dose of lies and spin has been shown up big time.

I reckon you guys should vent your frustration and anger at Calderon for making Madrid a laughing stock in world football.

Viva Ronaldo

KeyserSoze · 10th August 2008, 20:16

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Originally Posted by jojojo

I hope he checked what he was signing

Its probably Roman Calderon in a wig, its all starting up again.

Get the chopper BahamaRed.

Triple.Threat · 10th August 2008, 20:18

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Originally Posted by RealMadridF

Having recently discovered this site, couldn't believe how biased some here are that I had to make comments, albeit in this Newbie forum, I don't care.
Take it for granted, I do not approve this anti Real Madrid stance most have taken and why should I when all this fiasco was more or less generated by C Ronaldo's dream move comments. Sure, Calderon has maybe overstated our intrest in Ronaldo, but heck, if Ronaldo had any decency he would have had said it from the start that he's staying, avoiding all this media talk. So please, don't mock the club Real Madrid, mock your player who's a spoilt child. No true Madrista wants Ronaldo, I can inform you that.

My second point is regarding all this English Premier League hype that is getting out of hand. What, just because EPL clubs had nice representation in this year's CL, we'll label the other league's as rubbish? Admittedly, the big clubs in Italy lack money( or better said, lack of motivated investors, talking about Berlusconi, the second richest owner in football behind Abra, refusing to spend on the club's well being), while the ones in Spain have been badly managed and are behind their English counterparts but that's it. The Spanish, Italian and English midlevel are on par, the bottom is probably superior in Spain and in Italy. And really, it's not about leagues, but about nationality as well. What's with this Spanish and Italian hatred? Envy them for having better player than England?

This hype has lead to bad ratings. Take the Villa vs Berbatov thread for example. How can anyone call Villa overrated on the backing of what, one season? Even for that season, Villa has all the excuses in the world. I mean when you play with a bunch of idiotic missfits under the guidance of a madman coach you are bound to underperform. Villa has proven himself over the years, his game is absolutely top class and he is a natural finisher. The only reason Villa isn't at Liverpool is because of that 30 million price tag which is as true as it gets. If we are going to use the way of measurment some do here, then let's take Wayne Rooney, who by those standards is probably the most overrated player on Earth. He's overrated anyway, potential potential, but you know what, you can't keep on living on the backing this "potential". People here find excuses for Wayne, when it's obvious that for the last 2 season's he hasn't performed. He plays an important role for Manchester United, so his absence will lead to MUFC underperforming, nevertheless, the level of performance he has put in the last years has been... average. But let's leave Rooney out of this, for my money, Villa is a better player than Torres. The later is performing because EPL football basically matches all his strengths. In Spain, the gulf of class was ever so evident.

There are more points I'd like to make, but I'll end it here. I understand this is a Manchester United fan forum, but stop living in that dream world, ok? Well done on a double, but sitting on your laurels will only take you back to the 1999-2003 era. Good luck this coming season.

well those idiots at the helm Calderon, Schuster were the ones who tried and succeeded in unsettling a contracted Man United player, i don't recall it being the other way around.

i would encourage your club's hierarchy to show class, respect and decency or at least behave like a world-class football club.

like it or not Rooney is a world-class player, name an attacking 22years old Spanish player he would do what Wayne does for Man United.

Calderon, Schuster, AS, Marca, £200.000 a week promis will unsettle any soul on earth let alone a 23yr old with Ronaldo's background.

on a final note:with regards to our forum being biased you are in a Man United forum, if you fail to notice.

Point Prunier · 10th August 2008, 20:40

There were calls from Arsenal, Munich and Inter for us not to sell Ronaldo to Madrid. A profiled indictment illustrating the opinion of "your" club right across Europe.

Giggs > Raul

United > Madrid

Premier League > La Liga

My Dad > Your Dad

Terrorpin · 10th August 2008, 20:48

To be fair to the guy who has started this thread, he's obviously not a piss taker, and he has alot of good points to make from his point of view.

BahamaRed · 10th August 2008, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze

Its probably Roman Calderon in a wig, its all starting up again.

Get the chopper BahamaRed.

Actually that's me in the photo. I was collecting some of his DNA for the Ronometer Mk III

Whelan_88 · 10th August 2008, 21:38

How would you feel if the Glazers used The Sun day-in/day-out to say how much they desired Sergio Ramos or Wesly Sneijder? How would you feel if they claimed you should be honoured to do business with Manchester United?

It's this whole "bigger than everyone else" attitude that annoys people. Yes you have a fantastic history, a fantastic club and some fantastic players. But that does not put you above everybody else when it comes to transfer dealings. You need to understand that you can't just wave your magic wand and have all the best players in the world join you.

The dollar signs may be too much for most players but the clubs aren't going to lie down and get their bellys tickeled no matter how hard you try. As far as I know a bid was never put down for Ronaldo. The reason why is because you don't have the money.

The constant courting, the daily statements of intent in that propoganda machine called Marca, Ronaldo flirting with the possibility. It was all intended to drive the price down. Well the Glazers are hard nosed businessmen who don't need to sell our best player and the best player in the world for less than he's worth.

If you want Ronaldo make a bid. "don't mock the club Real Madrid" just epitimises your club and all who are associated with it. You're not bigger than everyone else and you don't have the right to dictate the terms of any transfer.

Sultan · 10th August 2008, 21:39

There's a Madrid fan in the newbies not happy with the bias shown on the caf regards his club.

Adzzz · 10th August 2008, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Sultan

There's a Madrid fan in the newbies not happy with the bias shown on the caf regards his club.

Insta promote him!

(It's prob Calderon)

Sultan · 10th August 2008, 21:43

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Originally Posted by AdZzUtd

Insta promote him!

(It's prob Calderon)

I'll copy the thread here.

Sultan · 10th August 2008, 21:45

Thread merged/copied from the newbies.

Raven Blade · 10th August 2008, 21:47

With all due respect to that guy in the newbies, his club Real Madrid are nowhere near as white as the colour of their shirts. That club has got a lot to answer for.

Feedingseagulls · 10th August 2008, 21:48

Just thought I'd tell everyone there were loads of pro-Ronaldo chants after the Community Shield.

Sultan · 10th August 2008, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Just thought I'd tell everyone there were loads of pro-Ronaldo chants after the Community Shield.

To be fair, we'll have to wait for Stretty's reaction. Majority of Old Trafford's noise emanates from that stand.

Feedingseagulls · 10th August 2008, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Sultan

To be fair, we'll have to wait for Stretty's reaction. Majority of Old Trafford's noise emanates from that stand.

True...

jojojo · 10th August 2008, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

Just thought I'd tell everyone there were loads of pro-Ronaldo chants after the Community Shield.

Were you there? I've heard there were plenty of anti-Ron songs (not just from Pompey fans) as well.

Feedingseagulls · 10th August 2008, 22:17

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Originally Posted by jojojo

Were you there? I've heard there were plenty of anti-Ron songs (not just from Pompey fans) as well.

Yup - there appeared to be a 'Viva...' after he appeared on the stadium tv.

Then I didn't really hear anything until the post-match watering holes - and all was positive there.

Having said that, there were loads of indistinguishable noises during the game.

Hellboy · 10th August 2008, 22:18

typical pro spanish garbage from the RM fanboy

marcus agrippa · 10th August 2008, 22:20

to that Madrid lad in the newbies:

listen, Madrid were respected. i say 'were' because a succession of clownish presidents have turned them into some kind of circus. the likes of Perez and his Galacticos policy springs to mind. signing all-attacking players and hardly any defenders, signing for purely commercial motivations and not footballing ones, changing managers at the drop of a hat, even successful ones - what about the other day: Schuster, the coach, coming out to say that he's the last to know anything at the club - i mean, how is that any way to run a football club, huh?.....that sort of thing makes the rest of us on the outside looking in just shake our collective heads, smile at each other knowingly and say "well, that's Madrid, innit"?

this is not just the attitude of just us United fans, but pretty much fans everywhere except possibly Madrid fans. i know this because a lot of my friends aren't even United fans, much less fans of English clubs.

now we have Calderon (called 'President Tourettes' by the always funny and insightful 'La Liga Loca') with his strange pronouncements; his reach exceeding his grasp, he has attempted to sign unattainable players. you use your mouthpieces to attempt to unsettle players, then pretend innocence. forget Ronaldo - how about Kaka? - you had him pictured holding some kind of Madrid memento (i forget exactly what); the whole thing turned out to be photoshopped, forcing Galliani to say some very strong words (that, as long as Calderon's in charge, they'll never sell Kaka to you). how is that any way to treat a prestigious club like Milan? - and before you argue that it was Marca not Madrid, we all know of the relationship between the two of you; moreover, we know that a club of some class would have immediately distanced themselves from such a thing.

as for the 'overhyped EPL', well, the facts speak for themselves: we had three teams in the semis, true. but it runs deeper than that. we've had a team in the final every season since 2004-2005. this league is replete with quality now. you might be too young to remember, i don't know, but English clubs had a steep learning curve to scale when we were let back into Europe after Heysel. i believe that summit has been well and truly crested. English clubs had been dominant in Europe for a long time before that.

this sums it up for me. Calderon : 'they (United) should be proud that we want to sign one of their players'

respect goes both ways, son. if you don't give it, you won't get it.

and the circus goes on.

reddev07 · 10th August 2008, 22:39

Quote:

RealMadridF
Having recently discovered this site, couldn't believe how biased some here are that I had to make comments, albeit in this Newbie forum, I don't care.
Take it for granted, I do not approve this anti Real Madrid stance most have taken and why should I when all this fiasco was more or less generated by C Ronaldo's dream move comments. Sure, Calderon has maybe overstated our intrest in Ronaldo, but heck, if Ronaldo had any decency he would have had said it from the start that he's staying, avoiding all this media talk. So please, don't mock the club Real Madrid, mock your player who's a spoilt child. No true Madrista wants Ronaldo, I can inform you that.

Understatement of the year. Your club used their usual tactics of trying to unsettle a player, in order to get them to want to leave. I have seen it happen so many times before. Zidane, Cristiano Ronaldo, fat Ronaldo etc. A coincidence that the club involved each time were Real Madrid? I think not. Yes, Ronaldo should have ended the speculation. Nobody can disagree with that but ask yourself what unsettled Ronaldo in the first place? Your president is an absolute disgrace and I am amazed you can't see that. What kind of president gives out a poll to fans asking who they want to sign and when only the minority say Ronaldo, goes ahead and tries to sign him anyway? He will probably try to sign Kaka now and do you know why? because he doesn't care what position the player plays in, just that the player is a big name. Fine if you want someone like that running your club but I wouldn't be happy

topper · 10th August 2008, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus agrippa

to that Madrid lad in the newbies:

listen, Madrid were respected. i say 'were' because a succession of clownish presidents have turned them into some kind of circus. the likes of Perez and his Galacticos policy springs to mind. signing all-attacking players and hardly any defenders, signing for purely commercial motivations and not footballing ones, changing managers at the drop of a hat, even successful ones - what about the other day: Schuster, the coach, coming out to say that he's the last to know anything at the club - i mean, how is that any way to run a football club, huh?.....that sort of thing makes the rest of us on the outside looking in just shake our collective heads, smile at each other knowingly and say "well, that's Madrid, innit"?

this is not just the attitude of just us United fans, but pretty much fans everywhere except possibly Madrid fans. i know this because a lot of my friends aren't even United fans, much less fans of English clubs.

now we have Calderon (called 'President Tourettes' by the always funny and insightful 'La Liga Loca') with his strange pronouncements; his reach exceeding his grasp, he has attempted to sign unattainable players. you use your mouthpieces to attempt to unsettle players, then pretend innocence. forget Ronaldo - how about Kaka? - you had him pictured holding some kind of Madrid memento (i forget exactly what); the whole thing turned out to be photoshopped, forcing Galliani to say some very strong words (that, as long as Calderon's in charge, they'll never sell Kaka to you). how is that any way to treat a prestigious club like Milan? - and before you argue that it was Marca not Madrid, we all know of the relationship between the two of you; moreover, we know that a club of some class would have immediately distanced themselves from such a thing.

as for the 'overhyped EPL', well, the facts speak for themselves: we had three teams in the semis, true. but it runs deeper than that. we've had a team in the final every season since 2004-2005. this league is replete with quality now. you might be too young to remember, i don't know, but English clubs had a steep learning curve to scale when we were let back into Europe after Heysel. i believe that summit has been well and truly crested. English clubs had been dominant in Europe for a long time before that.

this sums it up for me. Calderon : 'they (United) should be proud that we want to sign one of their players'

respect goes both ways, son. if you don't give it, you won't get it.

and the circus goes on.

I just lurve this

hotshot2004 · 10th August 2008, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top

He was talking on the phone during the match, the move is obviously still very much on...

ya sure; lets aim for 50000 post and 5 mil view. I think he even signed a contract electronically via his phone.

afrocentricity · 10th August 2008, 23:57

How is the newbie supposed to reply?

UBERScholes · 11th August 2008, 00:01

Through extreme violence of course. Watch yourself, marcus

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10th August 2008, 18:00	#20401 (permalink)
Raven Blade Dull Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Why do it the easy way? Do it the United way! Posts: 31,972	Ronaldo is one of us again. How much longer can this thread go on for?

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John_Jensen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,063	As much as i enjoyed their attempts to undermine Utd in this close season, Madrid is the biggest shithole of the footballing universe. They epitomise everything thats wrong with modern day football

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Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,347	oh so lonely

10th August 2008, 18:41	#20406 (permalink)
Top Admin Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 8,346	He was talking on the phone during the match, the move is obviously still very much on...

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loki Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lurking under 1000 posts for a long long time Posts: 968	If Real push with that compensation bid over a contract agreed with Ronaldo, then that would automatically prove tapping up since we never accepted a bid, and since the approach is illegal can any contract signed then be void? Its complete media bullshit.

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Stan Jefferson Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chris Posts: 2,349	Madrid = Arsehole of Modern Football I for one thought they were all a bunch of twats before this ronaldo saga

10th August 2008, 19:41	#20413 (permalink)
cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "At times when I've watched him, I wonder if he's being controlled by a 10 year old in the crowd with a playstation console" Gary Neville talking about David Luiz Posts: 4,538	I always enjoyed watching Madrid in the past. I have to say their pursuit of Ronaldo has made me ditest a club I once enjoyed watching as a nutral, I even enjoyed the way they played last season! Truth is that football is football is cut throat Madrid unsettled Ronaldo when he was away from Old Trafford and not with Sir Alex for advice. If the story in the NOTW about taking Ronnie's agent to court was even half true then we would have all the evidence we would need to persue the fact they have tapped up Ronaldo! We unsettled Hargreaves in a similar way, but we actual had many negotiations with Bayern and made offers. Real have created a media frenzy and made only one bid and after the event fed story upon story to Marca. Chelsea are doing it right now saying publically that they are courting Robinho and that they want him. This has unsettled him in exactly the same way, as only weeks or so ago he was happy at Real now his agent is saying he is dissullsioned. Football is cut throat and Fergie is no Angel he has tapped up Stam, Robben and Mexes in the past. Robben and Mexes had tours of Old Trafford and the training ground whilst still under contract. As for being biased......this is a MAN UTD forum! We are passionate about the Red Devils and we'll defend them til the end of time!

10th August 2008, 19:51	#20415 (permalink)
Plan M Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★ ★ ★ Posts: 10,352	Isn't this a Manchester United forum? There is bound to be bias!

10th August 2008, 20:06	#20416 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 20,763	media bollocks how low can madrid fall

10th August 2008, 20:09	#20417 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 34,247	RealMadridF: Nothing against the Spanish league or the Madrid fans, so I can't really see why you need to bring this argument into the Ronaldo debate - Granted Ronaldo played a big part in all the nonsense, but Calderon with his daily dose of lies and spin has been shown up big time. I reckon you guys should vent your frustration and anger at Calderon for making Madrid a laughing stock in world football. Viva Ronaldo

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Point Prunier Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: hanging out the back of it Posts: 2,307	There were calls from Arsenal, Munich and Inter for us not to sell Ronaldo to Madrid. A profiled indictment illustrating the opinion of "your" club right across Europe. Giggs > Raul United > Madrid Premier League > La Liga My Dad > Your Dad

10th August 2008, 20:48	#20421 (permalink)
Terrorpin Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Manchester Posts: 896	To be fair to the guy who has started this thread, he's obviously not a piss taker, and he has alot of good points to make from his point of view.

10th August 2008, 21:38	#20423 (permalink)
Whelan_88 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 790	How would you feel if the Glazers used The Sun day-in/day-out to say how much they desired Sergio Ramos or Wesly Sneijder? How would you feel if they claimed you should be honoured to do business with Manchester United? It's this whole "bigger than everyone else" attitude that annoys people. Yes you have a fantastic history, a fantastic club and some fantastic players. But that does not put you above everybody else when it comes to transfer dealings. You need to understand that you can't just wave your magic wand and have all the best players in the world join you. The dollar signs may be too much for most players but the clubs aren't going to lie down and get their bellys tickeled no matter how hard you try. As far as I know a bid was never put down for Ronaldo. The reason why is because you don't have the money. The constant courting, the daily statements of intent in that propoganda machine called Marca, Ronaldo flirting with the possibility. It was all intended to drive the price down. Well the Glazers are hard nosed businessmen who don't need to sell our best player and the best player in the world for less than he's worth. If you want Ronaldo make a bid. "don't mock the club Real Madrid" just epitimises your club and all who are associated with it. You're not bigger than everyone else and you don't have the right to dictate the terms of any transfer.

10th August 2008, 21:39	#20424 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 34,247	There's a Madrid fan in the newbies not happy with the bias shown on the caf regards his club.

10th August 2008, 21:45	#20427 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 34,247	Thread merged/copied from the newbies.

10th August 2008, 21:47	#20428 (permalink)
Raven Blade Dull Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Why do it the easy way? Do it the United way! Posts: 31,972	With all due respect to that guy in the newbies, his club Real Madrid are nowhere near as white as the colour of their shirts. That club has got a lot to answer for.

10th August 2008, 21:48	#20429 (permalink)
Feedingseagulls First Team Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Beyond Good & Evil Posts: 11,300	Just thought I'd tell everyone there were loads of pro-Ronaldo chants after the Community Shield.

10th August 2008, 22:18	#20434 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 11,243	typical pro spanish garbage from the RM fanboy

10th August 2008, 22:20	#20435 (permalink)
marcus agrippa First Team Sub Join Date: May 2005 Location: "Clattenburg!- Jesus God!" - SAF Posts: 7,169	to that Madrid lad in the newbies: listen, Madrid were respected. i say 'were' because a succession of clownish presidents have turned them into some kind of circus. the likes of Perez and his Galacticos policy springs to mind. signing all-attacking players and hardly any defenders, signing for purely commercial motivations and not footballing ones, changing managers at the drop of a hat, even successful ones - what about the other day: Schuster, the coach, coming out to say that he's the last to know anything at the club - i mean, how is that any way to run a football club, huh?.....that sort of thing makes the rest of us on the outside looking in just shake our collective heads, smile at each other knowingly and say "well, that's Madrid, innit"? this is not just the attitude of just us United fans, but pretty much fans everywhere except possibly Madrid fans. i know this because a lot of my friends aren't even United fans, much less fans of English clubs. now we have Calderon (called 'President Tourettes' by the always funny and insightful 'La Liga Loca') with his strange pronouncements; his reach exceeding his grasp, he has attempted to sign unattainable players. you use your mouthpieces to attempt to unsettle players, then pretend innocence. forget Ronaldo - how about Kaka? - you had him pictured holding some kind of Madrid memento (i forget exactly what); the whole thing turned out to be photoshopped, forcing Galliani to say some very strong words (that, as long as Calderon's in charge, they'll never sell Kaka to you). how is that any way to treat a prestigious club like Milan? - and before you argue that it was Marca not Madrid, we all know of the relationship between the two of you; moreover, we know that a club of some class would have immediately distanced themselves from such a thing. as for the 'overhyped EPL', well, the facts speak for themselves: we had three teams in the semis, true. but it runs deeper than that. we've had a team in the final every season since 2004-2005. this league is replete with quality now. you might be too young to remember, i don't know, but English clubs had a steep learning curve to scale when we were let back into Europe after Heysel. i believe that summit has been well and truly crested. English clubs had been dominant in Europe for a long time before that. this sums it up for me. Calderon : 'they (United) should be proud that we want to sign one of their players' respect goes both ways, son. if you don't give it, you won't get it. and the circus goes on.

10th August 2008, 23:57	#20439 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 10,229	How is the newbie supposed to reply?

11th August 2008, 00:01	#20440 (permalink)
UBERScholes I'd find it flattering if someone hard rubbed against me. Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 16,232	Through extreme violence of course. Watch yourself, marcus