Bowyer transfer listed!

Dans · 18th December 2001, 12:48

I hope not. I hope the club kick the allegedly xenophobic little prick out of the club. Hopefully the allegedly racist member of teh NF will be out of football for good. Pathetic piece of allegedly white supremacist shite.

18th December 2001, 12:50

[quote]Originally posted by BennyF:


I'm sure the maximum a player can be fined is 2 weeks wages....

I think Leeds want both players out but don't want their fans to think it is their choice but the players. Fine them stupid amounts hoping they'll reject it, then get rid...

Bowyers 4 week fine probably works out at more than Woodgates 8 weeks.<hr></blockquote>

2 weeks fine is the maximum under the PL and PFA rules, but they have probably been fined for more than one offence, which then probably can be accumulated. I'm sure they have made sure they've done this in a legal correct manner.

18th December 2001, 12:50

[quote]Originally posted by Dans:
I hope not. I hope the club kick the allegedly xenophobic little prick out of the club. Hopefully the allegedly racist member of teh NF will be out of football for good. Pathetic piece of allegedly white supremacist shite.<hr></blockquote>

How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?

Dans · 18th December 2001, 12:51

[quote]Originally posted by BennyF:


How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?<hr></blockquote>

I never said I knew anything.

18th December 2001, 12:51

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:


2 weeks fine is the maximum under the PL and PFA rules, but they have probably been fined for more than one offence, which then probably can be accumulated. I'm sure they have made sure they've done this in a legal correct manner.<hr></blockquote>

He's also got 2 disrepute charges to face now and could be banned for up to 6 games.

Davo · 18th December 2001, 12:51

The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is

"Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates"

Or summat to that affect...

Dans · 18th December 2001, 12:53

[quote]Originally posted by Davo:
The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is

"Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates"

Or summat to that affect...<hr></blockquote>

No, that's bang on the money that Davo.

18th December 2001, 12:54

Why do they have to be racists because the victim happened to be an Asian bloke? Do you think it wouldn't have happened if he was white?

Davo · 18th December 2001, 12:55

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:
Why do they have to be racists because the victim happened to be an Asian bloke? Do you think it wouldn't have happened if he was white?<hr></blockquote>

Who's saying they are?

Not me....

18th December 2001, 12:59

[quote]Originally posted by Davo:


Who's saying they are?

Not me....<hr></blockquote>

You and a number of others have implied it was a racist attack.

18th December 2001, 13:01

[quote]Originally posted by Davo:
The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is

"Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates"

Or summat to that affect...<hr></blockquote>

Or:

"Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly brilliant, young English footballer who has yet to reach his peak? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt increase the competition for places in the team, therefore inspiring players around him to perform better in order to keep their place in the team."

Davo · 18th December 2001, 13:02

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:


You and a number of others have implied it was a racist attack.<hr></blockquote>

No

I've heard allegations that the attack may have been racially motivated, and that Bowyer has a history of such incidents...

I've merely put forward these allegations for discussion...

I've never met Bowyer so have no idea what he's like..

He may be a nice bloke...or a racist little thug?

I simply don't know.....

Davo · 18th December 2001, 13:03

[quote]Originally posted by BennyF:


Or:

"Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly brilliant, young English footballer who has yet to reach his peak? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt increase the competition for places in the team, therefore inspiring players around him to perform better in order to keep their place in the team."<hr></blockquote>

I reckon they might just take recent events into account...

Neil Thomson · 18th December 2001, 13:03

[quote]Originally posted by BennyF:


How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?<hr></blockquote>

How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with
2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.

18th December 2001, 13:07

[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson:


How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with
2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.<hr></blockquote>

Is that the same paper that is saying Beckham's going to Italy, Keane is going to Celtic, United are in a crisis, Liverpool play attacking football? <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

He also got banned for smoking puff while at Charlton but that doesn't mean he's a druggy.

He was found innocent........

18th December 2001, 13:07

[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson:


How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with
2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.<hr></blockquote>

So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist.

It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.

2Bullish · 18th December 2001, 13:08

Details of another racially motivated attack(that Bowyer was involved in) were not submitted as evidence in the trial for fear it would unduly influence the jury.

Is it just me or is there a pattern here?

18th December 2001, 13:09

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:


So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist.

It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.<hr></blockquote>

You're disagreeing with them you must be racist

Fergiesarmy · 18th December 2001, 13:11

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:


So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist.

<hr></blockquote>

erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.

Neil Thomson · 18th December 2001, 13:18

[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect:


So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist.

It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.<hr></blockquote>

How about when it happens twice? Oh and btw Sarfraz Najeib's solicitor, who played a key role in the Stephen Lawrence case, also said a High Court prosecution would also bring evidence of a racial motive in the attack. So we should at least be able to agree that the victim in the case thought it was a racist attack.

Neil Thomson · 18th December 2001, 13:20

[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:


erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.<hr></blockquote>

If you're from leeds then you are!

18th December 2001, 13:23

[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:


erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.<hr></blockquote>

To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all.

As a Leeds fan however, the fact that Bowyer is listed is fucking devastating news and just about ends any hope of us winning anything. Since he got injured a few weeks ago, the team have performed badly and can't string 2 results together.

IF he leaves, someone will get a diamond for their millions.

Neil Thomson · 18th December 2001, 13:24

From BBC:
Leeds United Supporters' Club chief Ray Fell backed the club's decision to place Bowyer on the transfer list.

"I am totally surprised by the news, as all fans of the club will be, but our main concern is what happens to the club," said Fell.

"Lee Bowyer has been a highly influential player for us, but the fans feel that the club must always come first."

Fergiesarmy · 18th December 2001, 13:25

[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White:


To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all.
<hr></blockquote>

so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then.

18th December 2001, 13:25

[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White:


To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all.

.<hr></blockquote>

just what I was about to say.

2Bullish · 18th December 2001, 13:27

I wouldnt be to worried if I were you, Ill bet he stays where he is, check this out...

[quote]As a result of this, Lee Bowyer will not be available for team selection by David O'Leary unless he accepts the club's disciplinary sanction."<hr></blockquote>

If he eats humble pie and accepts his punishment all will be forgiven.

As for you tossers winning the league, youve got two hopes

Bob Hope and

No hope

cnuts
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

18th December 2001, 13:31

[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:


so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then.

<hr></blockquote>

....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.

Fergiesarmy · 18th December 2001, 13:33

[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White:


....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.<hr></blockquote>

anyone with a brain knows it was more than one person who attacked him.

Neil Thomson · 18th December 2001, 13:34

[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White:


....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.<hr></blockquote>

or the leeds player who was convicted of affray, and is now being sued for damages?

18th December 2001, 13:35

[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson:


How about when it happens twice? Oh and btw Sarfraz Najeib's solicitor, who played a key role in the Stephen Lawrence case, also said a High Court prosecution would also bring evidence of a racial motive in the attack. So we should at least be able to agree that the victim in the case thought it was a racist attack.<hr></blockquote>

What was the racial motive?

As far as I see it was two groups of lads that starting having a go at each other. That can happen no matter what the ethnic background of the individuals are. Happens everytime people are out getting lagered!

18th December 2001, 13:35

At the end of the day, why should they be fined? They already owe Leeds about 1 million quid each for legal fees.

18th December 2001, 13:39

[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson:


or the leeds player who was convicted of affray, and is now being sued for damages?<hr></blockquote>

I'm not getting involved in this old bollocks. I saw the other threads where it was the couple of leeds fans saying well that's the end of that, the lads are not guilty blah blah, and all the scousers and scum who were baying for their dismissal.

This was about bowyer being listed, which is a total bastard in terms of the football ambitions of leeds

18th December 2001, 13:42

[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:


so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then.

<hr></blockquote>

No, any attack is bad, be it racially motivated or not. What gets to me is that everytime the victim is asian, it is always claimed to be a racist attack.....

18th December 2001, 12:50	#42 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by BennyF: <strong> I'm sure the maximum a player can be fined is 2 weeks wages.... I think Leeds want both players out but don't want their fans to think it is their choice but the players. Fine them stupid amounts hoping they'll reject it, then get rid... Bowyers 4 week fine probably works out at more than Woodgates 8 weeks.</strong><hr></blockquote> 2 weeks fine is the maximum under the PL and PFA rules, but they have probably been fined for more than one offence, which then probably can be accumulated. I'm sure they have made sure they've done this in a legal correct manner.

18th December 2001, 12:50	#43 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Dans: <strong>I hope not. I hope the club kick the allegedly xenophobic little prick out of the club. Hopefully the allegedly racist member of teh NF will be out of football for good. Pathetic piece of allegedly white supremacist shite.</strong><hr></blockquote> How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?

18th December 2001, 12:51	#44 (permalink)
Dans First Team Elder Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,657	[quote]Originally posted by BennyF: <strong> How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?</strong><hr></blockquote> I never said I knew anything.

18th December 2001, 12:51	#45 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong> 2 weeks fine is the maximum under the PL and PFA rules, but they have probably been fined for more than one offence, which then probably can be accumulated. I'm sure they have made sure they've done this in a legal correct manner.</strong><hr></blockquote> He's also got 2 disrepute charges to face now and could be banned for up to 6 games.

18th December 2001, 12:53	#47 (permalink)
Dans First Team Elder Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,657	[quote]Originally posted by Davo: <strong>The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is "Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates" Or summat to that affect...</strong><hr></blockquote> No, that's bang on the money that Davo.

18th December 2001, 12:48	#41 (permalink)
Dans First Team Elder Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,657	I hope not. I hope the club kick the allegedly xenophobic little prick out of the club. Hopefully the allegedly racist member of teh NF will be out of football for good. Pathetic piece of allegedly white supremacist shite.

18th December 2001, 12:51	#46 (permalink)
Davo Still waiting for my team to make a title challenge. Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: It's Ours For Keeps Posts: 551,770	The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is "Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates" Or summat to that affect...

18th December 2001, 12:54	#48 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	Why do they have to be racists because the victim happened to be an Asian bloke? Do you think it wouldn't have happened if he was white?

18th December 2001, 12:55	#49 (permalink)
Davo Still waiting for my team to make a title challenge. Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: It's Ours For Keeps Posts: 551,770	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong>Why do they have to be racists because the victim happened to be an Asian bloke? Do you think it wouldn't have happened if he was white?</strong><hr></blockquote> Who's saying they are? Not me....

18th December 2001, 12:59	#50 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Davo: <strong> Who's saying they are? Not me....</strong><hr></blockquote> You and a number of others have implied it was a racist attack.

18th December 2001, 13:01	#51 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Davo: <strong>The question other clubs must be asking themselves now is "Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly racist, cowardly, violent, common fucking criminal? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt lower morale, and potentially bring the club into disrepute by attacking members of the community when he's with his mates" Or summat to that affect...</strong><hr></blockquote> Or: "Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly brilliant, young English footballer who has yet to reach his peak? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt increase the competition for places in the team, therefore inspiring players around him to perform better in order to keep their place in the team."

18th December 2001, 13:02	#52 (permalink)
Davo Still waiting for my team to make a title challenge. Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: It's Ours For Keeps Posts: 551,770	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong> You and a number of others have implied it was a racist attack.</strong><hr></blockquote> No I've heard allegations that the attack may have been racially motivated, and that Bowyer has a history of such incidents... I've merely put forward these allegations for discussion... I've never met Bowyer so have no idea what he's like.. He may be a nice bloke...or a racist little thug? I simply don't know.....

18th December 2001, 13:03	#53 (permalink)
Davo Still waiting for my team to make a title challenge. Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: It's Ours For Keeps Posts: 551,770	[quote]Originally posted by BennyF: <strong> Or: "Is it worth improving our squad on the cheap by signing an allegedly brilliant, young English footballer who has yet to reach his peak? Who if said allegations are correct will no doubt increase the competition for places in the team, therefore inspiring players around him to perform better in order to keep their place in the team."</strong><hr></blockquote> I reckon they might just take recent events into account...

18th December 2001, 13:03	#54 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253	[quote]Originally posted by BennyF: <strong> How do you know he is racist? Do you know him personally?</strong><hr></blockquote> How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with 2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.

18th December 2001, 13:07	#55 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson: <strong> How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with 2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.</strong><hr></blockquote> Is that the same paper that is saying Beckham's going to Italy, Keane is going to Celtic, United are in a crisis, Liverpool play attacking football? <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> He also got banned for smoking puff while at Charlton but that doesn't mean he's a druggy. He was found innocent........

18th December 2001, 13:07	#56 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson: <strong> How about because he beat the shit out of an asian in a McDonalds restaurant a few years ago? You know the club are now being sued for conspiring to pervert the course of justice (covering up), and their solicitor too. Here's another quote from today's paper "A judge ruled Bowyer's statements to police were 'littered with lies'" He got off due to insufficient evidence. He's also possibly going to be charged with 2 counts of misconduct by the FA with possible 6 match ban. This twat isn't worth much because of all this baggage.</strong><hr></blockquote> So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist. It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.

18th December 2001, 13:08	#57 (permalink)
2Bullish Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arcadia with a mortgage. Posts: 3,596	Details of another racially motivated attack(that Bowyer was involved in) were not submitted as evidence in the trial for fear it would unduly influence the jury. Is it just me or is there a pattern here?

18th December 2001, 13:09	#58 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong> So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist. It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.</strong><hr></blockquote> You're disagreeing with them you must be racist

18th December 2001, 13:11	#59 (permalink)
Fergiesarmy First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: pires is a cheat Posts: 5,251	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong> So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist. </strong><hr></blockquote> erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.

18th December 2001, 13:18	#60 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253	[quote]Originally posted by ChampionsElect: <strong> So if I get in a fight and beat up a black or an Asian, I am therefor a racist. It pisses me off that everytime the victim is not white, people claim it's racially motivated.</strong><hr></blockquote> How about when it happens twice? Oh and btw Sarfraz Najeib's solicitor, who played a key role in the Stephen Lawrence case, also said a High Court prosecution would also bring evidence of a racial motive in the attack. So we should at least be able to agree that the victim in the case thought it was a racist attack.

18th December 2001, 13:20	#61 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253	[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy: <strong> erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.</strong><hr></blockquote> If you're from leeds then you are!

18th December 2001, 13:23	#62 (permalink)
The Future's White Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy: <strong> erm it wasnt treated as a racial attack, though it should have been.</strong><hr></blockquote> To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all. As a Leeds fan however, the fact that Bowyer is listed is fucking devastating news and just about ends any hope of us winning anything. Since he got injured a few weeks ago, the team have performed badly and can't string 2 results together. IF he leaves, someone will get a diamond for their millions.

18th December 2001, 13:24	#63 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253	From BBC: Leeds United Supporters' Club chief Ray Fell backed the club's decision to place Bowyer on the transfer list. "I am totally surprised by the news, as all fans of the club will be, but our main concern is what happens to the club," said Fell. "Lee Bowyer has been a highly influential player for us, but the fans feel that the club must always come first."

18th December 2001, 13:25	#64 (permalink)
Fergiesarmy First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: pires is a cheat Posts: 5,251	[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White: <strong> To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all. </strong><hr></blockquote> so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then.

18th December 2001, 13:25	#65 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White: <strong> To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who thinks it was a racist attack or not. The fact that Najeeeb punched one of Woodgates mates to start the whole thing off pretty much says it all. .</strong><hr></blockquote> just what I was about to say.

18th December 2001, 13:27	#66 (permalink)
2Bullish Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arcadia with a mortgage. Posts: 3,596	I wouldnt be to worried if I were you, Ill bet he stays where he is, check this out... [quote]As a result of this, Lee Bowyer will not be available for team selection by David O'Leary unless he accepts the club's disciplinary sanction."<hr></blockquote> If he eats humble pie and accepts his punishment all will be forgiven. As for you tossers winning the league, youve got two hopes Bob Hope and No hope cnuts <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

18th December 2001, 13:31	#67 (permalink)
The Future's White Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy: <strong> so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then. </strong><hr></blockquote> ....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.

18th December 2001, 13:33	#68 (permalink)
Fergiesarmy First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: pires is a cheat Posts: 5,251	[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White: <strong> ....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.</strong><hr></blockquote> anyone with a brain knows it was more than one person who attacked him.

18th December 2001, 13:34	#69 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253	[quote]Originally posted by The Future's White: <strong> ....best ask the bloke who was convicted of gbh. It's not my normal night out, no.</strong><hr></blockquote> or the leeds player who was convicted of affray, and is now being sued for damages?

18th December 2001, 13:35	#70 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson: <strong> How about when it happens twice? Oh and btw Sarfraz Najeib's solicitor, who played a key role in the Stephen Lawrence case, also said a High Court prosecution would also bring evidence of a racial motive in the attack. So we should at least be able to agree that the victim in the case thought it was a racist attack.</strong><hr></blockquote> What was the racial motive? As far as I see it was two groups of lads that starting having a go at each other. That can happen no matter what the ethnic background of the individuals are. Happens everytime people are out getting lagered!

18th December 2001, 13:35	#71 (permalink)
BennyF Posts: n/a	At the end of the day, why should they be fined? They already owe Leeds about 1 million quid each for legal fees.

18th December 2001, 13:39	#72 (permalink)
The Future's White Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Neil Thomson: <strong> or the leeds player who was convicted of affray, and is now being sued for damages?</strong><hr></blockquote> I'm not getting involved in this old bollocks. I saw the other threads where it was the couple of leeds fans saying well that's the end of that, the lads are not guilty blah blah, and all the scousers and scum who were baying for their dismissal. This was about bowyer being listed, which is a total bastard in terms of the football ambitions of leeds

18th December 2001, 13:42	#73 (permalink)
ChampionsElect Posts: n/a	[quote]Originally posted by Fergiesarmy: <strong> so its ok to put someone in hospital for 8 days then. </strong><hr></blockquote> No, any attack is bad, be it racially motivated or not. What gets to me is that everytime the victim is asian, it is always claimed to be a racist attack.....

18th December 2001, 13:50	#74 (permalink)
Neil Thomson First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hippydom Posts: 13,253