First draft: Top 100 youngsters in the world list

Roy

here goes:

1. Djibril Cisse (STR, Auxerre)
2. Andres D'Allesandro (AM, River Plate)
3. Leandro Bonfim (AM, Vitoria/PSV Eindhoven)
4. Fernando Jose Torres (STR, Atletico Madrid)
5. Jermaine Pennant (R/WNG, Arsenal)
6. Rafael Van der Vaart (C/MF, Ajax)
7. Florent Sinama-Pongolle (STR, Le Havre/Liverpool)
8. Piotr Trochowski (AM, FC Bayern Munich)
9. Anthony Le Tallec (AM/CFWD, Le Havre/Liverpool)
10. Mourad Meghni (AM, Bologna)
11. Pedro Mantorras (STR, Benfica Lisbon)
12. David Odonkor (FWD, Borussia Dortmund)
13. Darren Fletcher (C/MF, Manchester United)
14. John Welsh (C/DM, Liverpool)
15. Kim Kallstrom (CM, BK Hacken)
16. Philippe Mexes (CB, Auxerre)
17. Johnny Heitinga (CB, Ajax)
18. Juan Andreu Melli (CM, Real Betis)
19. Baldo Di Gregorio (CB, Eintract Frankfurt)
20. Andres Iniesta (AM, Barcelona)
21. Milan Baros (STR, Liverpool)
22. Marius Niculae (STR, Sporting Lisbon)
23. Fabricio Coloccini (CB, Milan/on loan to Alaves)
24. Ricardo Bernardo Quaresma (L/WNG, Sporting Lisbon)
25. Maicon (RWB, Cruzeiro)
26. Hugo Viana (CM, Sporting Lisbon)
27. Arjen Robben (L/WNG, Groningen/PSV Eindhoven)
28. Julio Colombo (CB, Montpellier)
29. Gregory Vignal (LB, Liverpool)
30. Jermaine DeFoe (STR, West Ham United)
31. Gareth Barry (LB, Aston Villa)
32. Marat Izmailov (AM/FWD, Lokomotiv Moscow)
33. Hassan Yebda (DM, Auxerre)
34. Leandro Romagnoli (AM, San Lorenzo)
35. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (CFWD, Ajax)
36. Dean Ashton (CFWD, Crewe Alexandria)
37. Ednilson (AM, Benfica Lisbon)
38. Chris Kirkland (GK, Liverpool)
39. Emilliano S. Dudar (CB, Velez Sarsfield)
40. Helder Postiga (STR, Porto)
41. Ahmed 'Mido' Hossam (STR/LWNG, Ajax)
42. Joaquin Sanchez (L/WNG, Real Betis)
43. Diego Ribas (AM, Santos)
44. Jay Lucas (CFWD, Southampton)
45. Niko Kranjcar (AM/CFWD, Dinamo Zagreb)
46. Christian Petereit (RB/CB, Schalke 04)
47. Ewerthon (STR/FWD, Borussia Dortmund)
48. Gael Givet (CB/LB, Monaco)
49. Francesco Lodi (AM, Empoli/Parma)
50. Massimo Donati (DM, AC Milan)
51. Gatti Ribeiro (RWB, Blooming)
52. Jeremie Aliadiere (STR, Arsenal)
53. Francesco Tarantino (LB/CB, Athletic Bilbao)
54. Lourenco Da Silva (FWD/LWNG, Sporting Lisbon)
55. Alexander Ludwig (L/WNG, Werder Bremen)
56. Landon Donovan (STR, San Jose Earthquakes)
57. Ricardo Costa (CB, FC Porto)
58. Filip Trojan (L/WNG, Schalke 04)
59. Carlos Martins (CM, Sporting Lisbon)
60. Serhat Akin (STR, Fenerbahce)
61. Johnnier Montano (AM/FWD, Parma-on loan to Verona)
62. Mark Fotheringham (C/MF, Celtic)
63. Rubinho (GK, Corinthians)
64. Michael Chopra (STR, Newcastle)
65. Edward Johnson (STR, Dallas Burn)
66. Johnny Van Beukering (STR, Vitesse)
67. Santino Quaranta (STR, DC United)
68. Andreas Hinkel (RB/RWB, Stuttgart)
69. Bojan Djrodjic (L/WNG, Manchester United)
70. Matteo Brighi (CM, Juventus)
71. Cherno Samba (CFWD, Millwall)
72. Hassan Ahamada (LWNG/STR, Nantes)
73. Theo Janssen (LM, Vitesse)
74. Derik Boateng (AM, Panathinaikos)
75. Mauro Rosales (R/WNG, Newell's Old Boys)
76. Dulee Johnson (STR, BK Hacken)
77. Fernando Macedo Nano (L/WNG, Barcelona)
78. Michael Essien (D/MF, Bastia)
79. Andres Oliveira (STR/FWD, Perth Glory)
80. Candido Costa (AM, Porto)
81. Tuomas Aho (CB, My-Pa)
82. Dimitar Berbatov (STR, Bayer Leverkusen)
83. Thijs Houwing (CFWD, Twente)
84. Labinot Harbuzi (AM, Malmo FF)
85. Michael Zepek (CM, Bayer Leverkusen)
86. Mika Vayrynen (AM, FC Jokerit)
87. Ramon Calliste (STR, Manchester United)
88. Christoph Preuss (RWB, Eintract Frankfurt)
89. Keith Kelly (CM, PSG)
90. Aldo Jara (FWD, Cerro Portano)
91. Kieran Richardson (L/WNG, Manchester United)
92. Leonardo Santiago (L/WNG, Feyenoord)
93. Shaun Maloney(STR, Celtic)
94. Azar Karadas (CFWD/CB, Brann Bergen)
95. Kaka (AM, Sao Paulo)
96. Benjamin Auer (CFWD, Borussia M'Gladbach)
97. Daniyel Cimen (LB/CB, Eintract Frankfurt)
98. Erdal Kilicaslan (CFWD, Bayern Munich)
99. David Prutton (D/MF, Nottingham Forest)
100. Alexander Hleb (AM, Stuttgart)


Opinions welcomed.

Raoul

I agree with the top 2

scalisto

# 23 would sure provide some relief to ManUtd's defense

btw Raoul, D'Alessandro's price was$5 million last year when cheapstake West Ham refused to take Redknapp's advise and sent him back. Latest price tag is $15 million and going up.

Raoul

[quote]Originally posted by scalisto:
<strong># 23 would sure provide some relief to ManUtd's defense

btw Raoul, D'Alessandro's price was$5 million last year when cheapstake West Ham refused to take Redknapp's advise and sent him back. Latest price tag is $15 million and going up.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I hear the sheep were trying to pick him up for 5m just a few weeks ago.

Raoul

btw - I would add Ariel Carreno and Maximilliano Lopez to the list as well.

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by Raoul:
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I hear the sheep were trying to pick him up for 5m just a few weeks ago.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I reckon you forgot the '20' before the '5'...

I can't see him going for less than 15-20...

Raoul

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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I reckon you forgot the '20' before the '5'...

I can't see him going for less than 15-20...</strong><hr></blockquote>


that from Soccerupdate.

yaps

I couldn't see me on that list

Roy

Carreno was born 1979 so is too old and Maxi Lopez is a touch over-rated I feel. Maybe he should be in there though, I'll take another look.

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by yaps:
<strong>I couldn't see me on that list </strong><hr></blockquote>

I couldn't decide between you and Cisse

yaps

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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I couldn't decide between you and Cisse </strong><hr></blockquote>

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by yaps:
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I do think you're better than Le Tallec, Pongolle, Kirkland, Baros and Vignal though, they're shite

Red Tide

Chris Kirkland's a bit low on that list , i've forwared this list to Phil Thompson

Raoul

[quote]Originally posted by Red Tide:
<strong>Chris Kirkland's a bit low on that list , i've forwared this list to Phil Thompson </strong><hr></blockquote>

We've taken the liberty of signing first refusal deals with all non Liverpool players on that list.

seba

Roy: how come Meghni, Zlatan, Mexes..etc have move down the list, from last time?


dip in form?

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by Red Tide:
<strong>i've forwared this list to Phil Thompson </strong><hr></blockquote>

Why do I find that oddly belivable?

Oh I know why, because you nicked half the players off the old list!

yaps

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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I do think you're better than Le Tallec, Pongolle, Kirkland, Baros and Vignal though, they're shite

</strong><hr></blockquote>

At least thats something

seba

[quote]Originally posted by scalisto:
<strong># 23 would sure provide some relief to ManUtd's defense

btw Raoul, D'Alessandro's price was$5 million last year when cheapstake West Ham refused to take Redknapp's advise and sent him back. Latest price tag is $15 million and going up.</strong><hr></blockquote>


sent him back

Raoul

[quote]Originally posted by seba:
<strong>Roy: how come Meghni, Zlatan, Mexes..etc have move down the list, from last time?


dip in form?</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's probably because new players have emerged and some of the previous players have improved. ie Cisse and D'Allessandro etc.

Red Tide

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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I do think you're better than Le Tallec, Pongolle, Kirkland, Baros and Vignal though, they're shite

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Red Tide

[quote]Originally posted by Raoul:
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We've taken the liberty of signing first refusal deals with all non Liverpool players on that list. </strong><hr></blockquote>

That won't stop us

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by seba:
<strong>Roy: how come Meghni, Zlatan, Mexes..etc have move down the list, from last time?


dip in form?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well there are a few new revelations like Leandro Bonfim and Mantorras and also players like Cisse, D'Allesandro and Van der Vaart have made huge progress (even more than I expected, especially D'Allesandro) so obviously others have gone down a bit.

Zlatan has disappointed me a bit though. I still think he's got great potential but together with that, I have question marks regarding his productivity. I think it's going to take him a year or two to really turn on the class, he still needs to learn how to use his strength and body size to the max.

Red Tide

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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Zlatan has disappointed me a bit though. I still think he's got great potential but together with that, I have question marks regarding his productivity. I think it's going to take him a year or two to really turn on the class, he still needs to learn how to use his strength and body size to the max.</strong><hr></blockquote>


He also needs to get his feet back on on the ground, all this media attention has got to his head

Roy

A player I'd really love us to sign is David Odonkor from Borussia Dormtuns.

If you think Owen has pace, wait till you see this guy.

He also seems to me like such a winner, such a determined player. To come back from a serious car accident to play football regularly and be such a fantastic player, I really think shows of a very determined player.

He'd be superb for United.

seba

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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Zlatan has disappointed me a bit though. I still think he's got great potential but together with that, I have question marks regarding his productivity. I think it's going to take him a year or two to really turn on the class, he still needs to learn how to use his strength and body size to the max.</strong><hr></blockquote>

he's playing against England today, lets see how he does..

others: what about stewart and how high due you rate Calliste? another cisse..??

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by Red Tide:
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He also needs to get his feet back on on the ground, all this media attention has got to his head</strong><hr></blockquote>

Very true. That's the no.1 thing.

He's certainly an arrogant little fecker but hell, a lot of the greats were just that. As long as you can back it up with skill and productivity then I guess you're ok.

Red Tide

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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Very true. That's the no.1 thing.

He's certainly an arrogant little fecker but hell, a lot of the greats were just that. As long as you can back it up with skill and productivity then I guess you're ok.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thats true, look at Van Dar Vaart, he is supposed to be a real arrogant tosser as well, the differeance with him is that he performs on the pitch, he has been stunning so far this season.

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by seba:
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he's playing against England today, lets see how he does..

others: what about stewart and how high due you rate Calliste? another cisse..?? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Stewart should possibly be there, but I must admit I'm still not convinced about him (though Alex certainly is judging by his quotes last week), I guess it's just a case of me not seeing enough of him.

Anyway, I should be getting tapes of the U-17s/U-19s/reserves any day now so I'd have a chance to watch all the lads in action again.

Re: Calliste, I've seen short glimpes of our current U-17s and was very, very excited. I'm hoping they'll excite me again when I get the tapes this week. I certainly see it as the best batch of raw talent we've had in a while.

Calliste is the special one from what I've seen but the likes of Kouman (the French one, not the Dutch one ), Port, Heaton, Eagles, Nevins look very good as well.

seba

[quote]Originally posted by Red Tide:
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Thats true, look at Van Dar Vaart, he is supposed to be a real arrogant tosser as well, the differeance with him is that he performs on the pitch, he has been stunning so far this season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Van Der Vaart is an excellent player, Ajax top of the Dutch league..he's played a mjor part for them thus far this season.

Zlatan..what is he 6ft 5?? the guy has skill, physical stature and good pace... I thought that he's played well for Ajax this season????

ChampionsElect

[quote]Originally posted by Roy:
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87. Ramon Calliste (STR, Manchester United)
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Rundown please.

Surprised there ain't more Liverpool players on it. Thought they had about 15-20 potential world class players in their youth ranks....

Roy

[quote]Originally posted by Red Tide:
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Thats true, look at Van Dar Vaart, he is supposed to be a real arrogant tosser as well, the differeance with him is that he performs on the pitch, he has been stunning so far this season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ajax certainly has a lot of them, Ibrahimovic, Chivu, Van der Vaart, Hossam...

Johnny Heitinga's playing first team for them now, in central defence, next to Chivu, has been doing very well from what I've seen.

The thing about Dutch talents is that they are late bloomers when it comes to youth, their youth teams always look so crappy. Their U-20 team this year was an absolute joke. But the moment these players get first team oppertunities at their clubs, they improve in such a vast rate. I can't explain it, but it's something only that Dutch have. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that in Holland they only teach them ball-skills/passing/etc while at their youth so physically/tactically they are very raw so when they finally get into the first teams at their clubs, they improve at an advanced rate.