United's penalty-takers

Pogue Mahone · 16th April 2008, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Meanwhile, next door in the Hargreaves thread our Chief refuses to provide a link for the above claim.

I reckon Fergie has never made such a ludicrous remark...

Of course he hasn't. I thought that particular claim got blown out of the water pronto?

ciderman9000000 · 16th April 2008, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Most keepers are right-handed. So this means most lefties are shooting to the keepers "weaker" side. Further evidence that left-footed penalty-takers are, if anything, more likely to score than righties.

So, are we now saying that statistical evidence suggests that, not only is the chief's theory completely made up and untrue, but that the opposite in indeed a FACT! That's gold-dust, he'll do his nut in.

FranklyVulgar · 16th April 2008, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I think you're onto something here. In the same way that facing a southpaw boxer can mess with your head, facing a left-footed penalty might put some keepers off.

So there might just be a reason why left-footed penalty takers are more succesful but I'm fucked if I can think why they might be any worse.

Could be worse because there are fewer? In a squad of 20 or whatever how many are left footed? 5 maybe? Perhaps then there is a lesser chance that the left footed player will be a penalty specialist and therefor never takes pens so when it comes to shoot out time he isn't one you would want.

But you get top drawer left footed players who never miss from the spot. It's all about the player, foot doesn't make a great difference.

Hectic · 16th April 2008, 12:02

I don't think he will take it well.

Sultan · 16th April 2008, 12:05

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

That's mere conjecture.

Granted it's an opinion based on guesswork on my part. Then I believe as it's the Chief who made the claim, it's his duty to provide a link and prove me wrong.

This is all very confusing.

Sultan · 16th April 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Of course he hasn't. I thought that particular claim got blown out of the water pronto?

Not according to our Chief. He still claims Fergie has uttered these words.

ciderman9000000 · 16th April 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Sultan

This is all very confusing.

But deviously amusing nevertheless. I gotta go to work in an hour and i'm worried i might miss something.

robthered · 16th April 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Hectic

I don't think he will take it well.

Last time we posted something from a sport science journal in the equally reatrded talent v skill v ability v development thread he told me it was 'drivel', i imagine this information will also go unnoticed.

I'm still interested to know where he got his facts from, he could always just post the link....

Sultan · 16th April 2008, 12:11

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Originally Posted by robthered

I'm still interested to know where he got his facts from, he could always just post the link....

Now you're being unreasonable Rob

How can he post his brain, where the link originates.

ciderman9000000 · 16th April 2008, 12:11

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Originally Posted by robthered

I'm still interested to know where he got his facts from, he could always just post the link....

He said he researched them himself

, but he wont post the exact results because we'll say he made them up (honestly, that's what he said). Frankly, If he can't even be bothered to falsify some results, how are we going to believe that the lazy fucker lifted a finger to do research on 2000 penalties?

robthered · 16th April 2008, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Now you're being unreasonable Rob

How can he post his brain, where the link originates.

Fair enough Sultan.

Maybe that's the future of the internet, some kind of neural link, then we'd be really confused.

Honestly I decided a while ago that the Chief is a WUM, doesn't really matter though because the threads are always gold.

Hectic · 16th April 2008, 12:18

Chiefs the only person I know whose theories are facts before they have been proven in the slightest.

Cupid Stunt · 16th April 2008, 12:23

I cant believe this thread is 7 pages long.

I never thought a thread on penalty's could be this interesting..

ciderman9000000 · 16th April 2008, 12:28

here's how it started...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You're not the only one. However really self confident ones like Richardson hardly ever miss. I personally don't trust Giggs, Saha and Evra in a shoot out situation.. And I lost faith in Scholes' penalties for shoot outs. Even though he isn't left footed.....

Richardson?

Someone dissagrees...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Shut up. You never ever have any valid argument behind that statement. So be original for once in your life and present one or shut the fuck up...

notice he requires others to have 'valid arguments' before they make a statement.

The wild conjecture...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Left footers usually don't have variety in where they hit their penalties and hence are easier for keepers to read.

some obscure validation...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

you pathetic buffoon. I descend from a race of people who are masters of the art of penalty taking. So quit embarrassing yourself

rubberproof...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

It's not an argument. It's statement of fact. I could careless whether you accept it or not.

Why indeed...?

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Why would I make up the fact?

Not sure about this next one...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You are a sadist. You prove it in your above post.

And after being asked, categorically, more than once, why he thought it was that left footers are easier to read than rights...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

I have no question to answer.

^^^^
He did.

But still...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Mate, I have no question to answer. I told people to go and see for themselves. They have refused. It's not my problem. If you are in a house and you tell someone who has never seen the sun , that the sun is in the sky outside and he refutes what you say, with out going to see for himself, how will it still be your problem?

And...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

I have no question to answer. I told you. Go and observe several left footers taking penalties. If you learn something good. If you learn nothing that's your problem and not mine.

^^^^^^^^^^^
The likely outcome.

They taught Rubberproven facts at school?...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Sadist!

Airhead.

It just means don't pretend it's not the truth. Surely that's not too hard for you to do is it? Or did statements like that work as intimidation in your high school?

Then...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Let me make this clear once last time:

I STATED A FUCKING FACT YOU INSIPID MUTHER FUCKER. THIS IS NOT A FUCKING
SCHOOL THIS THREAD. IF YOU DON'T GET THE FACT OR DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT IT FROM FUCKING GO AND FIND THE ANSWER OUT FOR YOUR STUPID SELF. GET IT? YOU IMBECILE! I AINT DOING YOUR HOME WORK AND ANSWERING YOUR FUCKING QUESTION! IS THIS FONT AND ENGLISH LARGE AND CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU TO FINALLY UNDERSTAND YOU MORON?
EH?

Good

Still denying he's been asked anything...

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

I'm evading nothing. You are just under the illusion I have to answer this so called "question'. Questions don't arise from the sun rising in the east and setting in the west for example. If they do in your soul. You find out the answer for your damn self. So get it through your thick skull. It's up to you to answer yourself!

That was all nearly a year ago!

Since then he's revealed that he did all his research himself, and has yet to comment on the actual research that was actually done in reality and backed up with links that other posters have found.

kietotheworld · 16th April 2008, 12:32

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Originally Posted by cw1984

I'd love to see that study!!

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Originally Posted by Wibble

Where is this study? The only one I know about is Chiaporri, Levitt and Groseclose (2002) which was published in some economics journal. The stats were rubbish and has so little power as to be useless. They also failed to do do things like ANOVA's which might have teased some details out, although give the sample sizes and methodology I doubt it.

IMBECILES

IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE STUDY GO AND FIND IT !!!! I AM NOT DOING YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK FOR YOU MUTHER FUCKERS!

reelworld · 16th April 2008, 12:46

this thread is fucking gold!

Cupid Stunt · 16th April 2008, 12:55

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Originally Posted by reelworld

this thread is fucking gold!

Thanks for the summary Ciderman!

ciderman9000000 · 16th April 2008, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Cupid Stunt

Thanks for the summary Ciderman!

no problem, it's really worth reading the entire thread.

carpy · 16th April 2008, 13:04

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You badly need a gun to put yourself out of existence to stop such stupidity spreading to the rest of the world

Yes chief, putting myself out of existence is the key to stopping the spread of stupidity. Oh no, it's not me who's the one pushing ridiculous theories as facts on an internet forum after all is it... it's you.

Count Duckula · 16th April 2008, 13:23

I see everyone is alive and well after my sleep.

That's good.

And the Chief even quoted my lawyer sketch. That makes me feel honoured.

cw1984 · 16th April 2008, 13:42

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Originally Posted by kietotheworld

IMBECILES

IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE STUDY GO AND FIND IT !!!! I AM NOT DOING YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK FOR YOU MUTHER FUCKERS!

IhabX7 · 16th April 2008, 13:42

This thread is like a fuckin acid trip!

robthered · 16th April 2008, 13:55

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Originally Posted by IhabX7

This thread is like a fuckin acid trip!

At least with a trip no matter how bad it gets you can keep yourself sane by knowing there will be an end to it and reality will be restored.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th April 2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Think of it as a compliment, Chief. That frog ain't going down without a fight, is he?

Rather that frog is acting like you. Not knowing what the fuck it's doing

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th April 2008, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Bury Red

Well theirs is a published academic paper, authored by a Welshman named M.Hughes no less. Not sparky unfortunately, just a sports expert from the University of Cardiff. Yours is a supposition by a reknowned internet nutjob.

I know I'm torn which one to believe.

No offence but no one gives a shit what you believe

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Originally Posted by Bury Red

Why, thankyou.

Pogue Mahone · 16th April 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Rather that frog is acting like you. Not knowing what the fuck it's doing

I think you're being a little harsh on the frog there.

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