Why Liverpool will be champions

other red · 27th October 2002, 22:50

I haven't posted here for a year, but have watched the balance of power switch dramatically (just as I predicted)..... I didn't write this, but I think it sums up "today" perfectly. For a decade, you lot were untouchable. But your time has been and gone..... here's why:

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Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever, sits happy tonight at the top of the Premiership. Whilst everyones attention turns slowly to Liverpoool, we've known all along our day will come. Here we present you with our brief, not so indepth(!) 8 reasons why Liverpool will be Premiership Champions this season (In no particular order):-

1 Michael Owen
There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. He can score at the most crucial times when things arent going to plan. An incredible asset to the team, and will no doubt finish the top Premiership goalscorer this season. Michael Owen has his socring boots on again, and this will help Liverpool fire their way to a firdt Premiership Championship win.

2 The defence
Our defence is the key to our recent successes of late. Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders that we have, have kept out some of the toughtest teams in Europe. A Championship winning side is a side who has a solid defence. We have that in abundance. They have been the best by far in the Premiership of the last couple or seasons or so, and our defence will keep out the toughtest of sides.

3 Gerard Houllier
Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players, and he has let some of the other players go. He's outted the moaners, and whingers at the club, and now has assembled a tight bunch of passionate players that are so glad that they have th privelage of wearing the red jersey. He's here for the long run. He said it would take time. And it has. But he's building a formidabble team, and no doubt his man manegement skills eminate through to the players. Controlled, focussed and never afraid to air his honest views, Houllier has finally brought back the spirit of the Liverpool of old.

4 United's days are over
All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. Inability to score, and the inability to win are not good signs for United. Liverpool have crept behind them over the years, coming close on many occasions, but the Reds have been ready to take over the hotseat and now that United have faltered the Reds of Merseyside are the only Reds in town. Claiming the 6 points against United this year will help snatch back the trophy.

5 The fans
Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world. Knowledgable, humourous, and patient. Passionate, vocal, and honest. These are some fo the attributes a typical Liverpool fan has. Talk to any Liverpool fan anywhere in the world and you'll immediately realise that supporting Liverpool is a religion. Whether it's at Anfield, away from home in the UK or far afield in Europe the fans always do their best to get the best out of the team. Constant support and acknowledgment that things are going well will filter through to the players, and their confidence will no doubt be bolstered with he support of the fans. Liverpool fans give the team an extra 10% over the opponents and will surely be singing "Champions" in May 2003.

6 Anfield
Anfield used to be known as Fortress Anfield. No opossing team ever escaped with all three points over the 70's and 80's. The reputation of the place gave Liverpool an almost 1 - 0 lead as opposing players, and travelling away fans dreaded playing at Anfield - they loved the occasion, but dreaded the footballing lesson they would be an unwanted student in. That was then. This is now. And slowly and surely Anfield is becoming a tough place to play now. And it's that invincibility that used to surrond the place that could help put the fear back into opposing teams. If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in.

7 Flexible, resilient tactics
Liverpool have changed the tactics to suit their preferred style of play this season. Gerard Houllier has said that he feels the team can defend properly now, and he has given them a license to attack as much as possible. However, Houllier uses his tactics cleverly in certain situations in games, and will no doubt tinker with them to get the desired result. This ability to have a team that can slot into different formations, roles and positions on the pitch are crucial for Liverpool to win games when things arent going right and a change is needed. Championship winning teams are flexible, and this Liverpool side clearly shows players are willing to forfeit their preferred position for the benefit of the team.

8 It's where it belongs
Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. With a worldwide support with 10's of millions of fans a club this size needs the title. In the 60's, 70's and 80's Liverpool coolected title after title. Anfield has seen the title more times than any other club, and its about time to bring it back home. It may have a new name, and may look slightly differenet, but everyone knows deep down that the true home of football in the UK is that of Liverpool. Is where dreams have been made. It's where dreams are still being made. And it's where the Premiership Championship dream will be made. Come May 2003 we're convinced the Premiership trophy will be sat glittering in arguably the most packed trophy rooms in the world.

spinoza · 27th October 2002, 22:51

Some one chuck this long boring piece of shite into the football forum please...

Murt · 27th October 2002, 22:57

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
I haven't posted here for a year, <hr></blockquote>

typical, come back the minute youse are on top

I see you did your last post last January too just when we had cut your 11 point and game in hand lead <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

If your only going to come in here and gloat when things are going well you might as well stay away.

AhmedDimwitson · 27th October 2002, 23:01

And if you do copy and paste some story make sure it is interesting and not a pile of shite like that.

fortress Anfield eh? when you manage to fill it you mean..

flexible tactics <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> , you have one tactic against every opposititon.

other red · 27th October 2002, 23:22

Murt.

you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen.

I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence.

Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back

Nistelrooy10 · 27th October 2002, 23:28

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
I haven't posted here for a year
SINCE WE OVERTOOK YOUR 11 POINT +GAME IN HAND LEAD?
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1 Michael Owen
RUUD VAN NISTELROOY (36 GOALS AND NO LONG TERM INJURIES)

2 The defence
DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREAT ANYMORE!!

3 Gerard Houllier (WON PLASTIC TREBLE)
FERGUSSON: WON REAL TREBLE + 6 CHAMPIONSHIPS, FA CUPS......

4 United's days are over
All things must come to an end. THAT'S TRUE. BUT THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING THIS IS THE END JUST BECAUSE IT'S A NEW DECADE <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

5 The fans
Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world.
QUESTIONABLY? SUPPORTERS WHO NEVER FILL THEIR OWN STADIUM HMMM.....

6 Anfield
If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in.
SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP YOU WIN IT THIS YEAR?

7 Flexible, resilient tactics
SAME FOR UNITED THEN..

8 It's where it belongs
Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. EXACTLY<hr></blockquote>

YOU ARE A FUNNY LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

Murt · 27th October 2002, 23:37

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
Murt.
you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen.

I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence.
Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back<hr></blockquote>

I said the same last season when youse were 11 points ahead with yer game in hand and look what happened <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
I still find it ironic that you disappear as soon as we clawed you back and now youse get into a lead your back. Where were you when youse lost to Valencia & Leverkusen and drew with Basle?
Are you still under the influence after last night?

Were 4 points behind Arsenal who are "the best team ever" so we cant be that bad.
Were strolling thorugh Europe.
Pool & Arsenal have had slightly better starts than us and weve been the worst ht by injuries with Keane, Ruud, Rio, Scholes, Butt and Neville all out.
Its October and your allready celebrating your title, did youse not learn from last season when youse were gloating in November <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> . You lot have no idea how to win a league, youse remind me of us the yr Leeds beat us.

Veedey · 27th October 2002, 23:40

Other, my boss says: ‘You can’t explain it briefly, so it isn’t true or you don’t understand it’.

Jens · 27th October 2002, 23:41

Erm, wrong forum.

Nice to see why you think Loonypool are the dog´s bollocks, but I quite frankly doubt many people here give a flying fuck.

other red · 27th October 2002, 23:45

ermm..... 8 points clear of youse, and finshed 4 points clear of youse last season. That's 12 points ahead in the last 49 games. I didn't "disappear" otherwise I'd have come back gloating relentlessly all last year, and this!!!!!

You have a crap defence, you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack... don't you SEE it man????????????????????????????????

Alex Ferguson is OLD and will never win another important trophy.... wanna bet me on that?????

giggzy · 27th October 2002, 23:47

yep united are crap.

and if you can;t win the league this season.. i doubt you ever will.

chokers <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

other red · 27th October 2002, 23:52

[quote]Originally posted by Jens:
Erm, wrong forum.

Nice to see why you think Loonypool are the dog´s bollocks, but I quite frankly doubt many people here give a flying fuck.<hr></blockquote>

oh Jens, you obviously don't get it, cos I reckon that EVERYONE here gives a "flying fuck" Liverpool winnning the league? And you don't give a fuck??????

I've suffered 10 years of manc dominance, and you know what... it really, really hurt... your turn now : )

Jens · 27th October 2002, 23:53

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
[QB]ermm..... 8 points clear of youse, and finshed 4 points clear of youse last season. That's 12 points ahead in the last 49 games.<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, crying shame only this season counts, eh?

[quote]I didn't "disappear" otherwise I'd have come back gloating relentlessly all last year, and this!!!!!<hr></blockquote>

No posts in 9 months. Hmmm ...wonder what your definition of the word "to disappear" is.

[quote]You have a crap defence,<hr></blockquote>

Best defence in the Premiership.

[quote]you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack... don't you SEE it man???????????????????????????????? <hr></blockquote>

And yet we´re on top of our CL group and one of only two sides who´ve already qualified for the second group stage.

Wonder what you call Bolton if you think we´re rubbish.

[quote]Alex Ferguson is OLD<hr></blockquote>

And Gerrard Houllier is only one illness away from his funeral ...

Jens · 27th October 2002, 23:56

[quote]Originally posted by other red:


oh Jens, you obviously don't get it, cos I reckon that EVERYONE here gives a "flying fuck" Liverpool winnning the league? And you don't give a fuck??????

I've suffered 10 years of manc dominance, and you know what... it really, really hurt... your turn now : )<hr></blockquote>

I don´t give a flying fuck about Liverpool FC. Wonder if you got a hard writing your post.

Oh, and your pile of shite have won sweet fuck all so far. Trophies are not won in October.

giggzy · 27th October 2002, 23:58

[quote]Originally posted by Jens:


Trophies are not won in October.<hr></blockquote>

shhhhhhhhhhhh!!

(they don't know the meaning of winning trophies, so its not their fault

)

other red · 28th October 2002, 00:46

panic on the streets of Manchester !!!!!

old "15 years past it" manager
psycho captain
no forward line
a midfield from 1997
a shite keeper
rio and O'Shea????????????

Marcus · 28th October 2002, 00:51

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
panic on the streets of Manchester !!!!!

old "15 years past it" manager
psycho captain
no forward line
a midfield from 1997
a shite keeper
rio and O'Shea????????????<hr></blockquote>

you're either a glory-hunter or a coward or you could be both. which is it?

other red · 28th October 2002, 01:04

Neither

I'll go toe to toe wih you if you like

Unite are SHITE.... just like 1991 Liverpool

see ya in 5 years........

emjoy your decline... it's hard, trust me : )

OldRed1 · 28th October 2002, 01:44

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
I haven't posted here for a year, but have watched the balance of power switch dramatically (just as I predicted)..... I didn't write this, but I think it sums up "today" perfectly. For a decade, you lot were untouchable. But your time has been and gone..... here's why:

--------------------

Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever, sits happy tonight at the top of the Premiership. Whilst everyones attention turns slowly to Liverpoool, we've known all along our day will come. Here we present you with our brief, not so indepth(!) 8 reasons why Liverpool will be Premiership Champions this season (In no particular order):-

1 Michael Owen
There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. He can score at the most crucial times when things arent going to plan. An incredible asset to the team, and will no doubt finish the top Premiership goalscorer this season. Michael Owen has his socring boots on again, and this will help Liverpool fire their way to a firdt Premiership Championship win.

2 The defence
Our defence is the key to our recent successes of late. Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders that we have, have kept out some of the toughtest teams in Europe. A Championship winning side is a side who has a solid defence. We have that in abundance. They have been the best by far in the Premiership of the last couple or seasons or so, and our defence will keep out the toughtest of sides.

3 Gerard Houllier
Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players, and he has let some of the other players go. He's outted the moaners, and whingers at the club, and now has assembled a tight bunch of passionate players that are so glad that they have th privelage of wearing the red jersey. He's here for the long run. He said it would take time. And it has. But he's building a formidabble team, and no doubt his man manegement skills eminate through to the players. Controlled, focussed and never afraid to air his honest views, Houllier has finally brought back the spirit of the Liverpool of old.

4 United's days are over
All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. Inability to score, and the inability to win are not good signs for United. Liverpool have crept behind them over the years, coming close on many occasions, but the Reds have been ready to take over the hotseat and now that United have faltered the Reds of Merseyside are the only Reds in town. Claiming the 6 points against United this year will help snatch back the trophy.

5 The fans
Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world. Knowledgable, humourous, and patient. Passionate, vocal, and honest. These are some fo the attributes a typical Liverpool fan has. Talk to any Liverpool fan anywhere in the world and you'll immediately realise that supporting Liverpool is a religion. Whether it's at Anfield, away from home in the UK or far afield in Europe the fans always do their best to get the best out of the team. Constant support and acknowledgment that things are going well will filter through to the players, and their confidence will no doubt be bolstered with he support of the fans. Liverpool fans give the team an extra 10% over the opponents and will surely be singing "Champions" in May 2003.

6 Anfield
Anfield used to be known as Fortress Anfield. No opossing team ever escaped with all three points over the 70's and 80's. The reputation of the place gave Liverpool an almost 1 - 0 lead as opposing players, and travelling away fans dreaded playing at Anfield - they loved the occasion, but dreaded the footballing lesson they would be an unwanted student in. That was then. This is now. And slowly and surely Anfield is becoming a tough place to play now. And it's that invincibility that used to surrond the place that could help put the fear back into opposing teams. If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in.

7 Flexible, resilient tactics
Liverpool have changed the tactics to suit their preferred style of play this season. Gerard Houllier has said that he feels the team can defend properly now, and he has given them a license to attack as much as possible. However, Houllier uses his tactics cleverly in certain situations in games, and will no doubt tinker with them to get the desired result. This ability to have a team that can slot into different formations, roles and positions on the pitch are crucial for Liverpool to win games when things arent going right and a change is needed. Championship winning teams are flexible, and this Liverpool side clearly shows players are willing to forfeit their preferred position for the benefit of the team.

8 It's where it belongs
Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. With a worldwide support with 10's of millions of fans a club this size needs the title. In the 60's, 70's and 80's Liverpool coolected title after title. Anfield has seen the title more times than any other club, and its about time to bring it back home. It may have a new name, and may look slightly differenet, but everyone knows deep down that the true home of football in the UK is that of Liverpool. Is where dreams have been made. It's where dreams are still being made. And it's where the Premiership Championship dream will be made. Come May 2003 we're convinced the Premiership trophy will be sat glittering in arguably the most packed trophy rooms in the world.<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" /> <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" />

lchk · 28th October 2002, 02:02

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
Murt.

you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen.

I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence.

Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back<hr></blockquote>

Perhaps you should detail out why you think Utd are in decline rather than just spout a one sentence remark.

Cal? · 28th October 2002, 02:47

Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever... who haven't won anything of note for over a decade

1 Michael Owen
There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. [b] and Henry or Van Nistelrooy are not??

2 The defence
Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders [b] you mean the likes of xavier and traore?? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

3 Gerard Houllier
Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players... Rio isn't a quality player?

4 United's days are over
All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. and I'm sure a Scouser will be the best judge of that... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

5 The fans
such a stupid point it's not even worth answering

6 Anfield
getting it filled might be an idea

7 Flexible, resilient tactics
do you really have an alternative tactic? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

8 It's where it belongs
another stupid point, it doesn't belong anywhere <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

dicko · 28th October 2002, 03:13

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
You have a crap defence, you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack<hr></blockquote>

We have the best defensive record in the league.

Beckham, Butt and Scholes are approaching their peak. Giggs is older but only 28. Keano is 31 but should be good for at least two more seasons.

Last year I met one of your loony friends. You were 11 points ahead of us (with a game in hand). he said you had the league sewn up.

Yes, you won both your Cup finals (the games against us) and your championship (ie finished ahead of us) but still got no trophies. I don't know if you realise there are 18 other clubs in the premiership and Arsenal finished top.

Now fuck off and save your energy. You might need it in April and May to stop your choking.

other red · 28th October 2002, 05:24

well let's all be thankful that the world class Nicky Butt is approaching his peak.... so what exactly is that? He's CRAP! Officially!!!

Keane is OLD news, Beckham is a great right half but (un)fortunately you think he's better roaming around, Veron is truly 100% shite, as is Forlan,

You know it.....

goodye United, you were the 90's

ps Scholes is excellent. The only truly world class player at OT.

other red · 28th October 2002, 05:31

how about we fill it with executives, vice presidents and prawn sandwich eaters? Yeah, now THERE is how to motivate the team. Excuse me, where's the executive toilet? Is the toilet roll two-ply? After all, my company paid quite a lot for this ticket!

other red · 28th October 2002, 05:34

[quote]Originally posted by lchk:


Perhaps you should detail out why you think Utd are in decline rather than just spout a one sentence remark.<hr></blockquote>

8 points behind the leaders. (us) A forward ine of RVN, OGS, and D

other red · 28th October 2002, 05:41

and Diego Forlan (1 in 35)

A midfield that has Veron in it, and he is truly, really, honestly, pathetic.... you only play him cos of his price tag!!!!

A defence that's only "the best in England" cos your attack is "one of the worst in England" It goes hand in hand. Having a good defence is only relevant if you actually score goals!

3rd last season. Not a trophy in sight, and eating Liverpool's dust at the moment, with 13 goals in 11 games, and a total of 19 points from 11 games. Remind me please.... when was the last time you had such a pathetic points total after 11 games?

RUnited · 28th October 2002, 06:11

[quote]Originally posted by other red:
well let's all be thankful that the world class Nicky Butt is approaching his peak.... so what exactly is that? He's CRAP! Officially!!!

Keane is OLD news, Beckham is a great right half but (un)fortunately you think he's better roaming around, Veron is truly 100% shite, as is Forlan,

You know it.....

goodye United, you were the 90's

ps Scholes is excellent. The only truly world class player at OT.<hr></blockquote>

and the whole Liverpool team who have won nothing of substance are world class?

With Owen who keeps getting himself injured you say he's the reason for you to win it all? I wouldn't be surprised if Owen fell on his head and knocked himself out cold while trying to score a penalty for Liverpool...

did you know that he has missed the most penalties since 1997/98 season? You call that world class? can't even fuckin fool a keeper with a dead ball. what's he going to do for you?

I do not disagree that Poo of the 70's and 80's were world class and that they have had their time.. but for you to babble about being champions in October is just crazy... absolute bollox.

The reason you scoushit haven't won anythin in the past ten years is because you never learn from being over confident too early. Last year was the same, as it has been the case for 10 years.

Even Houllier has joined the club, he came out to the press and said he felt his team has a chance this year because of the way they're performing... anything can happen my friend.. look at arsenal? what good is it doing them now having scored in every game for the past 50? Losing 3 games in one off week already allowed suckers like you to go top. And you think that if you go one or two off week, our team cannot overtake you?

You think football is played and is over in 3 months? You must be joking.

You have players like Steven Gerard who come out to say "i'm scared shit of Viera" and players like Riise, Hyypia, Dudek, Diouf, so MANY MORE who've never even come close to the big trophies.. you think they can stand the pressure comes crunch times? You need experience for that stuff - the scoushit as a team have never even come close to winning it. Last year you guys led the league and then what happened? you went how many games without a win? becaue none of you know how to be at the top. We have a midfield from '97 that's why we're strong. You think it takes new faces every year to win? What it does is give you more problem trying to gel them as a team. Sure they're performing, but it's early days, they're all trying to impress. Wait and see when they tumble like bowling pins.. it won't be long..

It's easy getting to the top, it's tough keeping the number 1 spot. Oh yes, the pressure is on you sucker. You have 5 teams breathing on your necks, I'll see what you're going to do about it. I give you two more month tops. You'll be history by new year.

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other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	Why Liverpool will be champions I haven't posted here for a year, but have watched the balance of power switch dramatically (just as I predicted)..... I didn't write this, but I think it sums up "today" perfectly. For a decade, you lot were untouchable. But your time has been and gone..... here's why: -------------------- Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever, sits happy tonight at the top of the Premiership. Whilst everyones attention turns slowly to Liverpoool, we've known all along our day will come. Here we present you with our brief, not so indepth(!) 8 reasons why Liverpool will be Premiership Champions this season (In no particular order):- 1 Michael Owen There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. He can score at the most crucial times when things arent going to plan. An incredible asset to the team, and will no doubt finish the top Premiership goalscorer this season. Michael Owen has his socring boots on again, and this will help Liverpool fire their way to a firdt Premiership Championship win. 2 The defence Our defence is the key to our recent successes of late. Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders that we have, have kept out some of the toughtest teams in Europe. A Championship winning side is a side who has a solid defence. We have that in abundance. They have been the best by far in the Premiership of the last couple or seasons or so, and our defence will keep out the toughtest of sides. 3 Gerard Houllier Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players, and he has let some of the other players go. He's outted the moaners, and whingers at the club, and now has assembled a tight bunch of passionate players that are so glad that they have th privelage of wearing the red jersey. He's here for the long run. He said it would take time. And it has. But he's building a formidabble team, and no doubt his man manegement skills eminate through to the players. Controlled, focussed and never afraid to air his honest views, Houllier has finally brought back the spirit of the Liverpool of old. 4 United's days are over All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. Inability to score, and the inability to win are not good signs for United. Liverpool have crept behind them over the years, coming close on many occasions, but the Reds have been ready to take over the hotseat and now that United have faltered the Reds of Merseyside are the only Reds in town. Claiming the 6 points against United this year will help snatch back the trophy. 5 The fans Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world. Knowledgable, humourous, and patient. Passionate, vocal, and honest. These are some fo the attributes a typical Liverpool fan has. Talk to any Liverpool fan anywhere in the world and you'll immediately realise that supporting Liverpool is a religion. Whether it's at Anfield, away from home in the UK or far afield in Europe the fans always do their best to get the best out of the team. Constant support and acknowledgment that things are going well will filter through to the players, and their confidence will no doubt be bolstered with he support of the fans. Liverpool fans give the team an extra 10% over the opponents and will surely be singing "Champions" in May 2003. 6 Anfield Anfield used to be known as Fortress Anfield. No opossing team ever escaped with all three points over the 70's and 80's. The reputation of the place gave Liverpool an almost 1 - 0 lead as opposing players, and travelling away fans dreaded playing at Anfield - they loved the occasion, but dreaded the footballing lesson they would be an unwanted student in. That was then. This is now. And slowly and surely Anfield is becoming a tough place to play now. And it's that invincibility that used to surrond the place that could help put the fear back into opposing teams. If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in. 7 Flexible, resilient tactics Liverpool have changed the tactics to suit their preferred style of play this season. Gerard Houllier has said that he feels the team can defend properly now, and he has given them a license to attack as much as possible. However, Houllier uses his tactics cleverly in certain situations in games, and will no doubt tinker with them to get the desired result. This ability to have a team that can slot into different formations, roles and positions on the pitch are crucial for Liverpool to win games when things arent going right and a change is needed. Championship winning teams are flexible, and this Liverpool side clearly shows players are willing to forfeit their preferred position for the benefit of the team. 8 It's where it belongs Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. With a worldwide support with 10's of millions of fans a club this size needs the title. In the 60's, 70's and 80's Liverpool coolected title after title. Anfield has seen the title more times than any other club, and its about time to bring it back home. It may have a new name, and may look slightly differenet, but everyone knows deep down that the true home of football in the UK is that of Liverpool. Is where dreams have been made. It's where dreams are still being made. And it's where the Premiership Championship dream will be made. Come May 2003 we're convinced the Premiership trophy will be sat glittering in arguably the most packed trophy rooms in the world.

27th October 2002, 22:57	#3 (permalink)
Murt Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dimmer than Welsh Red Posts: 17,078	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>I haven't posted here for a year, </strong><hr></blockquote> typical, come back the minute youse are on top I see you did your last post last January too just when we had cut your 11 point and game in hand lead <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> If your only going to come in here and gloat when things are going well you might as well stay away.

27th October 2002, 23:28	#6 (permalink)
Nistelrooy10 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,519	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>I haven't posted here for a year SINCE WE OVERTOOK YOUR 11 POINT +GAME IN HAND LEAD? -------------------- 1 Michael Owen RUUD VAN NISTELROOY (36 GOALS AND NO LONG TERM INJURIES) 2 The defence DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREAT ANYMORE!! 3 Gerard Houllier (WON PLASTIC TREBLE) FERGUSSON: WON REAL TREBLE + 6 CHAMPIONSHIPS, FA CUPS...... 4 United's days are over All things must come to an end. THAT'S TRUE. BUT THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING THIS IS THE END JUST BECAUSE IT'S A NEW DECADE <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> 5 The fans Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world. QUESTIONABLY? SUPPORTERS WHO NEVER FILL THEIR OWN STADIUM HMMM..... 6 Anfield If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in. SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP YOU WIN IT THIS YEAR? 7 Flexible, resilient tactics SAME FOR UNITED THEN.. 8 It's where it belongs Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. EXACTLY</strong><hr></blockquote> YOU ARE A FUNNY LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

27th October 2002, 23:37	#7 (permalink)
Murt Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Dimmer than Welsh Red Posts: 17,078	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>Murt. you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen. I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence. Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back</strong><hr></blockquote> I said the same last season when youse were 11 points ahead with yer game in hand and look what happened <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> I still find it ironic that you disappear as soon as we clawed you back and now youse get into a lead your back. Where were you when youse lost to Valencia & Leverkusen and drew with Basle? Are you still under the influence after last night? Were 4 points behind Arsenal who are "the best team ever" so we cant be that bad. Were strolling thorugh Europe. Pool & Arsenal have had slightly better starts than us and weve been the worst ht by injuries with Keane, Ruud, Rio, Scholes, Butt and Neville all out. Its October and your allready celebrating your title, did youse not learn from last season when youse were gloating in November <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> . You lot have no idea how to win a league, youse remind me of us the yr Leeds beat us.

27th October 2002, 23:52	#12 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	[quote]Originally posted by Jens: <strong>Erm, wrong forum. Nice to see why you think Loonypool are the dog´s bollocks, but I quite frankly doubt many people here give a flying fuck.</strong><hr></blockquote> oh Jens, you obviously don't get it, cos I reckon that EVERYONE here gives a "flying fuck" Liverpool winnning the league? And you don't give a fuck?????? I've suffered 10 years of manc dominance, and you know what... it really, really hurt... your turn now : )

27th October 2002, 22:51	#2 (permalink)
spinoza Paz's ion Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Everything is "blarg". Posts: 22,347	Some one chuck this long boring piece of shite into the football forum please...

27th October 2002, 23:01	#4 (permalink)
AhmedDimwitson The Expert Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: expat San Francisco, California Posts: 5,191	And if you do copy and paste some story make sure it is interesting and not a pile of shite like that. fortress Anfield eh? when you manage to fill it you mean.. flexible tactics <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> , you have one tactic against every opposititon.

27th October 2002, 23:22	#5 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	Murt. you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen. I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence. Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back

27th October 2002, 23:40	#8 (permalink)
Veedey Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Манчестер Юнайтед Posts: 618	Other, my boss says: ‘You can’t explain it briefly, so it isn’t true or you don’t understand it’.

27th October 2002, 23:41	#9 (permalink)
Jens First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 11,986	Erm, wrong forum. Nice to see why you think Loonypool are the dog´s bollocks, but I quite frankly doubt many people here give a flying fuck.

27th October 2002, 23:45	#10 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	ermm..... 8 points clear of youse, and finshed 4 points clear of youse last season. That's 12 points ahead in the last 49 games. I didn't "disappear" otherwise I'd have come back gloating relentlessly all last year, and this!!!!! You have a crap defence, you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack... don't you SEE it man???????????????????????????????? Alex Ferguson is OLD and will never win another important trophy.... wanna bet me on that?????

27th October 2002, 23:47	#11 (permalink)
giggzy The Fatter Bryan Robson Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In my Mersey Paradise...... Posts: 20,013	yep united are crap. and if you can;t win the league this season.. i doubt you ever will. chokers <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

27th October 2002, 23:53	#13 (permalink)
Jens First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 11,986	[quote]Originally posted by other red: [QB]ermm..... 8 points clear of youse, and finshed 4 points clear of youse last season. That's 12 points ahead in the last 49 games.<hr></blockquote> Yeah, crying shame only this season counts, eh? [quote]I didn't "disappear" otherwise I'd have come back gloating relentlessly all last year, and this!!!!!<hr></blockquote> No posts in 9 months. Hmmm ...wonder what your definition of the word "to disappear" is. [quote]You have a crap defence,<hr></blockquote> Best defence in the Premiership. [quote]you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack... don't you SEE it man???????????????????????????????? <hr></blockquote> And yet we´re on top of our CL group and one of only two sides who´ve already qualified for the second group stage. Wonder what you call Bolton if you think we´re rubbish. [quote]Alex Ferguson is OLD<hr></blockquote> And Gerrard Houllier is only one illness away from his funeral ...

27th October 2002, 23:56	#14 (permalink)
Jens First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 11,986	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong> oh Jens, you obviously don't get it, cos I reckon that EVERYONE here gives a "flying fuck" Liverpool winnning the league? And you don't give a fuck?????? I've suffered 10 years of manc dominance, and you know what... it really, really hurt... your turn now : )</strong><hr></blockquote> I don´t give a flying fuck about Liverpool FC. Wonder if you got a hard writing your post. Oh, and your pile of shite have won sweet fuck all so far. Trophies are not won in October.

27th October 2002, 23:58	#15 (permalink)
giggzy The Fatter Bryan Robson Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In my Mersey Paradise...... Posts: 20,013	[quote]Originally posted by Jens: <strong> Trophies are not won in October.</strong><hr></blockquote> shhhhhhhhhhhh!! (they don't know the meaning of winning trophies, so its not their fault )

28th October 2002, 08:49	#28 (permalink)

28th October 2002, 00:46	#16 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	panic on the streets of Manchester !!!!! old "15 years past it" manager psycho captain no forward line a midfield from 1997 a shite keeper rio and O'Shea????????????

28th October 2002, 00:51	#17 (permalink)
Marcus Couldn't buy a clue Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Dream Team: Ole - reserve coach, Cantona - Asst Manager, Schmikes - Goalie coach Posts: 2,429	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>panic on the streets of Manchester !!!!! old "15 years past it" manager psycho captain no forward line a midfield from 1997 a shite keeper rio and O'Shea????????????</strong><hr></blockquote> you're either a glory-hunter or a coward or you could be both. which is it?

28th October 2002, 01:04	#18 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	Neither I'll go toe to toe wih you if you like Unite are SHITE.... just like 1991 Liverpool see ya in 5 years........ emjoy your decline... it's hard, trust me : )

28th October 2002, 01:44	#19 (permalink)
OldRed1 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Withington at Western Australia Posts: 1,008	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>I haven't posted here for a year, but have watched the balance of power switch dramatically (just as I predicted)..... I didn't write this, but I think it sums up "today" perfectly. For a decade, you lot were untouchable. But your time has been and gone..... here's why: -------------------- Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever, sits happy tonight at the top of the Premiership. Whilst everyones attention turns slowly to Liverpoool, we've known all along our day will come. Here we present you with our brief, not so indepth(!) 8 reasons why Liverpool will be Premiership Champions this season (In no particular order):- 1 Michael Owen There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. He can score at the most crucial times when things arent going to plan. An incredible asset to the team, and will no doubt finish the top Premiership goalscorer this season. Michael Owen has his socring boots on again, and this will help Liverpool fire their way to a firdt Premiership Championship win. 2 The defence Our defence is the key to our recent successes of late. Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders that we have, have kept out some of the toughtest teams in Europe. A Championship winning side is a side who has a solid defence. We have that in abundance. They have been the best by far in the Premiership of the last couple or seasons or so, and our defence will keep out the toughtest of sides. 3 Gerard Houllier Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players, and he has let some of the other players go. He's outted the moaners, and whingers at the club, and now has assembled a tight bunch of passionate players that are so glad that they have th privelage of wearing the red jersey. He's here for the long run. He said it would take time. And it has. But he's building a formidabble team, and no doubt his man manegement skills eminate through to the players. Controlled, focussed and never afraid to air his honest views, Houllier has finally brought back the spirit of the Liverpool of old. 4 United's days are over All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. Inability to score, and the inability to win are not good signs for United. Liverpool have crept behind them over the years, coming close on many occasions, but the Reds have been ready to take over the hotseat and now that United have faltered the Reds of Merseyside are the only Reds in town. Claiming the 6 points against United this year will help snatch back the trophy. 5 The fans Liverpool has questionably the most passionate support for any football club in the world. Knowledgable, humourous, and patient. Passionate, vocal, and honest. These are some fo the attributes a typical Liverpool fan has. Talk to any Liverpool fan anywhere in the world and you'll immediately realise that supporting Liverpool is a religion. Whether it's at Anfield, away from home in the UK or far afield in Europe the fans always do their best to get the best out of the team. Constant support and acknowledgment that things are going well will filter through to the players, and their confidence will no doubt be bolstered with he support of the fans. Liverpool fans give the team an extra 10% over the opponents and will surely be singing "Champions" in May 2003. 6 Anfield Anfield used to be known as Fortress Anfield. No opossing team ever escaped with all three points over the 70's and 80's. The reputation of the place gave Liverpool an almost 1 - 0 lead as opposing players, and travelling away fans dreaded playing at Anfield - they loved the occasion, but dreaded the footballing lesson they would be an unwanted student in. That was then. This is now. And slowly and surely Anfield is becoming a tough place to play now. And it's that invincibility that used to surrond the place that could help put the fear back into opposing teams. If we can go unbeaten at home all season, this will clearly put Anfield back on the footballing world map as the most feared stadium to play in. 7 Flexible, resilient tactics Liverpool have changed the tactics to suit their preferred style of play this season. Gerard Houllier has said that he feels the team can defend properly now, and he has given them a license to attack as much as possible. However, Houllier uses his tactics cleverly in certain situations in games, and will no doubt tinker with them to get the desired result. This ability to have a team that can slot into different formations, roles and positions on the pitch are crucial for Liverpool to win games when things arent going right and a change is needed. Championship winning teams are flexible, and this Liverpool side clearly shows players are willing to forfeit their preferred position for the benefit of the team. 8 It's where it belongs Liverpool last won their title over a decade ago. With a worldwide support with 10's of millions of fans a club this size needs the title. In the 60's, 70's and 80's Liverpool coolected title after title. Anfield has seen the title more times than any other club, and its about time to bring it back home. It may have a new name, and may look slightly differenet, but everyone knows deep down that the true home of football in the UK is that of Liverpool. Is where dreams have been made. It's where dreams are still being made. And it's where the Premiership Championship dream will be made. Come May 2003 we're convinced the Premiership trophy will be sat glittering in arguably the most packed trophy rooms in the world.</strong><hr></blockquote> <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" /> <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" />

28th October 2002, 02:02	#20 (permalink)
lchk Banned Join Date: May 2001 Location: Transfer Forum Posts: 4,891	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>Murt. you seriously are a tosser with your views. "it's really good that we're 8 points behind Liverppol costhe pressure is in them" is probably the worst piece of single-blindedness I've ever seen. I could have come here and "gloated" any time in the last 18 months....... we're 8 POINTS clear, and finished ahead of you last year! To be honest, the only reason I bothered is cos I got drunk at a party last night with me mate ukbob (manc fan) and decided to mouth off while still under the influence. Here's my point... Man U are crap now and are in the same decline Licerpool were in 1992.... and it's a LONG, LONG way back</strong><hr></blockquote> Perhaps you should detail out why you think Utd are in decline rather than just spout a one sentence remark.

28th October 2002, 02:47	#21 (permalink)
Cal? from Redcafe (matchfixing department) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: We want our own TV deal... Posts: 11,785	Liverpool, the most succesful English club ever... who haven't won anything of note for over a decade 1 Michael Owen There's no denying it, Michael Owen is a goalscorer. [b] and Henry or Van Nistelrooy are not?? 2 The defence Hyypia, Henchoz and a whole collection of other solid, reliable, and dependable defenders [b] you mean the likes of xavier and traore?? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> 3 Gerard Houllier Gerard Houllier has brought in his own tactical now-how. He's bought in quality players... *Rio isn't a quality player?* 4 United's days are over All things must come to an end. And it looks as though Manchester United's mini 'dominace' of English football is in a rapid decline. and I'm sure a Scouser will be the best judge of that... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> 5 The fans such a stupid point it's not even worth answering 6 Anfield getting it filled might be an idea 7 Flexible, resilient tactics do you really have an alternative tactic? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> 8 It's where it belongs another stupid point, it doesn't belong anywhere <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

28th October 2002, 03:13	#22 (permalink)
dicko Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,602	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>You have a crap defence, you have an ageing midfield, you have a pathetic attack</strong><hr></blockquote> We have the best defensive record in the league. Beckham, Butt and Scholes are approaching their peak. Giggs is older but only 28. Keano is 31 but should be good for at least two more seasons. Last year I met one of your loony friends. You were 11 points ahead of us (with a game in hand). he said you had the league sewn up. Yes, you won both your Cup finals (the games against us) and your championship (ie finished ahead of us) but still got no trophies. I don't know if you realise there are 18 other clubs in the premiership and Arsenal finished top. Now fuck off and save your energy. You might need it in April and May to stop your choking.

28th October 2002, 05:24	#23 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	well let's all be thankful that the world class Nicky Butt is approaching his peak.... so what exactly is that? He's CRAP! Officially!!! Keane is OLD news, Beckham is a great right half but (un)fortunately you think he's better roaming around, Veron is truly 100% shite, as is Forlan, You know it..... goodye United, you were the 90's ps Scholes is excellent. The only truly world class player at OT.

28th October 2002, 05:31	#24 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	how about we fill it with executives, vice presidents and prawn sandwich eaters? Yeah, now THERE is how to motivate the team. Excuse me, where's the executive toilet? Is the toilet roll two-ply? After all, my company paid quite a lot for this ticket!

28th October 2002, 05:34	#25 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	[quote]Originally posted by lchk: <strong> Perhaps you should detail out why you think Utd are in decline rather than just spout a one sentence remark.</strong><hr></blockquote> 8 points behind the leaders. (us) A forward ine of RVN, OGS, and D

28th October 2002, 05:41	#26 (permalink)
other red Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: California Posts: 227	and Diego Forlan (1 in 35) A midfield that has Veron in it, and he is truly, really, honestly, pathetic.... you only play him cos of his price tag!!!! A defence that's only "the best in England" cos your attack is "one of the worst in England" It goes hand in hand. Having a good defence is only relevant if you actually score goals! 3rd last season. Not a trophy in sight, and eating Liverpool's dust at the moment, with 13 goals in 11 games, and a total of 19 points from 11 games. Remind me please.... when was the last time you had such a pathetic points total after 11 games?

28th October 2002, 06:11	#27 (permalink)
RUnited Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Back in the 'hood Posts: 5,100	[quote]Originally posted by other red: <strong>well let's all be thankful that the world class Nicky Butt is approaching his peak.... so what exactly is that? He's CRAP! Officially!!! Keane is OLD news, Beckham is a great right half but (un)fortunately you think he's better roaming around, Veron is truly 100% shite, as is Forlan, You know it..... goodye United, you were the 90's ps Scholes is excellent. The only truly world class player at OT.</strong><hr></blockquote> and the whole Liverpool team who have won nothing of substance are world class? With Owen who keeps getting himself injured you say he's the reason for you to win it all? I wouldn't be surprised if Owen fell on his head and knocked himself out cold while trying to score a penalty for Liverpool... did you know that he has missed the most penalties since 1997/98 season? You call that world class? can't even fuckin fool a keeper with a dead ball. what's he going to do for you? I do not disagree that Poo of the 70's and 80's were world class and that they have had their time.. but for you to babble about being champions in October is just crazy... absolute bollox. The reason you scoushit haven't won anythin in the past ten years is because you never learn from being over confident too early. Last year was the same, as it has been the case for 10 years. Even Houllier has joined the club, he came out to the press and said he felt his team has a chance this year because of the way they're performing... anything can happen my friend.. look at arsenal? what good is it doing them now having scored in every game for the past 50? Losing 3 games in one off week already allowed suckers like you to go top. And you think that if you go one or two off week, our team cannot overtake you? You think football is played and is over in 3 months? You must be joking. You have players like Steven Gerard who come out to say "i'm scared shit of Viera" and players like Riise, Hyypia, Dudek, Diouf, so MANY MORE who've never even come close to the big trophies.. you think they can stand the pressure comes crunch times? You need experience for that stuff - the scoushit as a team have never even come close to winning it. Last year you guys led the league and then what happened? you went how many games without a win? becaue none of you know how to be at the top. We have a midfield from '97 that's why we're strong. You think it takes new faces every year to win? What it does is give you more problem trying to gel them as a team. Sure they're performing, but it's early days, they're all trying to impress. Wait and see when they tumble like bowling pins.. it won't be long.. It's easy getting to the top, it's tough keeping the number 1 spot. Oh yes, the pressure is on you sucker. You have 5 teams breathing on your necks, I'll see what you're going to do about it. I give you two more month tops. You'll be history by new year.