Youth Reports

Grom_Hellscream · 19th April 2004, 13:02

Latest news from the Viking camp is that their manager has resigned...
don´t think it will make any difference on Timms playing time, seeing as he was´nt really involved in the loan deal.

21st April 2004, 21:05

Ive just finished watching the reserves last match of the season vs Newcastle and all i can say is what a game.

United fielded a team with every player under 19 years of age, Chris Eagles being the eldest, and captain. The game finished 2-1 to united with Eagles scoring both goals. His first came after just 30 seconds after a great United move, and then he scored from the penalty spot in the second half. Newcastle scored a late goal which they deserved for some great play through out the match. This is how our team lined up:

--------------Heaton-------------

-Picken--Spector--Howard--Hogg-

-Eagles--N'Galula--R. Jones--Collett-

----------Cooper---Poole---------

Everyone played well but the players that really stood out for me were: Spector who was awesome in defence. Nothing passed him all game and he won virtually every tackle. N'Galula was also very good, he kept the tempo of the game flowing and was our engine room. Eagles had one of his best games today after a few dissapointing performances and played with real confidence. Cooper held the ball up very well and Blake, who came on just after half time for Poole battled excellently, showed great strength and pace and nearly scored himself near the end.

In all an excellent game, better than a lot of first team matches ive watched this season and id be dissapointed if about 4 or 5 of the current crop of youngsters dont make it to the first team.

umair · 21st April 2004, 22:31

who did u rate mom and can u give me a bit of info ngalulas playing style and how did richard jones and hogg play?

VanNistelrater · 21st April 2004, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubai_Devil

Ive just finished watching the reserves last match of the season vs Newcastle and all i can say is what a game.

United fielded a team with every player under 19 years of age, Chris Eagles being the eldest, and captain. The game finished 2-1 to united with Eagles scoring both goals. His first came after just 30 seconds after a great United move, and then he scored from the penalty spot in the second half. Newcastle scored a late goal which they deserved for some great play through out the match. This is how our team lined up:

--------------Heaton-------------

-Picken--Spector--Howard--Hogg-

-Eagles--N'Galula--R. Jones--Collett-

----------Cooper---Poole---------

Everyone played well but the players that really stood out for me were: Spector who was awesome in defence. Nothing passed him all game and he won virtually every tackle. N'Galula was also very good, he kept the tempo of the game flowing and was our engine room. Eagles had one of his best games today after a few dissapointing performances and played with real confidence. Cooper held the ball up very well and Blake, who came on just after half time for Poole battled excellently, showed great strength and pace and nearly scored himself near the end.

In all an excellent game, better than a lot of first team matches ive watched this season and id be dissapointed if about 4 or 5 of the current crop of youngsters dont make it to the first team.

Arent Newcastles reserves generally considered the best? Think they have alot of experienced players in there, certainly not many U19's, if so, even better.

Great to hear about the youth doing well, Is Ngaula box-to-box?

Spectors also getting mentioned alot these days, perhaps worth a run out towards the end of the season, atleast?

21st April 2004, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by umair

who did u rate mom and can u give me a bit of info ngalulas playing style and how did richard jones and hogg play?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanNistlerater

Arent Newcastles reserves generally considered the best? Think they have alot of experienced players in there, certainly not many U19's, if so, even better.

Great to hear about the youth doing well, Is Ngaula box-to-box?

Spectors also getting mentioned alot these days, perhaps worth a run out towards the end of the season, atleast?

My MOM is joint between Eagles and Spector. Eagles for his two goals and Spector who was immense in defence. As much as I hate to say it N'Galula looks and plays like a young Vieira. Richard Jones played well as he and NG made thier reserve team debuts in the centre of midfield. You could tell that they had an understanding between them as one of them attacked, the other covered in defence. Hogg looked a bit nervous but he and Picken both played well and also helped in attack which was good.

VN, in the reserve league table it is Villa who are on top, United in second and Liverpool in third AFAIK. In this match it was mainly their academy players, but a few of them were a bit older with premiership experience. N'Galula is a box to box player and he nearly created a goal today. Very similar to Vieira I must say. Im pretty sure that Spector will be coming on the tour of the USA this year (SAF brought him along to the Portsmouth game btw, shows he regards him highly) and im confident that he will play some part in the first team next year, but probably mainly in the league cup as he is still young and we do have quite a few CBs. But he is a class player, confident on the ball and reads the game brilliantly. Made some excellent tackles for him and i am almost certain that he will make it.

umair · 21st April 2004, 23:12

What is eagles style of play?Is he skillful like ronaldo and how did he score?Could u post some highlights or goals?
We will have 2 reserve teams in the leagues next season and i think r jones,ngalula and martin should feature.What do u think of martin and blake?

21st April 2004, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by umair

What is eagles style of play?Is he skillful like ronaldo and how did he score?Could u post some highlights or goals?
We will have 2 reserve teams in the leagues next season and i think r jones,ngalula and martin should feature.What do u think of martin and blake?

Eagles is similar to Beckam but a bit more pacey. He might move in to the centre of midfield as he gets older i think. His first goal was a good move by United 30 seconds into the game where someone passed the ball to Poole, he passed it to his right with the outside of his boot to Eagles who ran on to it and slotted it past the keeper. The second came when Caliste was brought down in the box and Eagles scored from the penalty spot, he smashed it to the right on the keeper.

Sorry dont have any highlights or goals, just saw the game on MUTV.

Not sure about the 2 reserve teams thing but R Jones, Nglalula and Martin will all figure in the Youth Cup team IMO.

Sorry i dont know much about Martin but Blake is a very promising striker. He is fast and strong. Very brave, gets stuck in, chases lost causes and pretty much flings himself at anything he has a chance at reaching. Has also scored his fair share of goals with the academy and has recently broken into the reserve team. He is still young (just turned 18 i think) but could develop into a very good player

RedPhil1957 · 21st April 2004, 23:55

I watched the match as well and agree a very good game plenty of pace and agression from both sides but played in good spirit. I thought the whole team played well but special mention must go to spector IMO best player on the pitch strong, agressive and yet a ball player. Cooper's control and touch also very good for such a big man. From what was said SAF has high hopes that 4 or 5 of this lot will make it to top and from what I have seen this season and last it could well happen

Lil Cee · 22nd April 2004, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubai_Devil

My MOM is joint between Eagles and Spector. Eagles for his two goals and Spector who was immense in defence. As much as I hate to say it N'Galula looks and plays like a young Vieira. Richard Jones played well as he and NG made thier reserve team debuts in the centre of midfield. You could tell that they had an understanding between them as one of them attacked, the other covered in defence. Hogg looked a bit nervous but he and Picken both played well and also helped in attack which was good.

VN, in the reserve league table it is Villa who are on top, United in second and Liverpool in third AFAIK. In this match it was mainly their academy players, but a few of them were a bit older with premiership experience. N'Galula is a box to box player and he nearly created a goal today. Very similar to Vieira I must say. Im pretty sure that Spector will be coming on the tour of the USA this year (SAF brought him along to the Portsmouth game btw, shows he regards him highly) and im confident that he will play some part in the first team next year, but probably mainly in the league cup as he is still young and we do have quite a few CBs. But he is a class player, confident on the ball and reads the game brilliantly. Made some excellent tackles for him and i am almost certain that he will make it.

its great to hear that we should be having another CB come thru but whats happened with McShane? it seems that Howard guy has replaced him

Gabe · 22nd April 2004, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubai_Devil

My MOM is joint between Eagles and Spector.

Im pretty sure that Spector will be coming on the tour of the USA this year
he is a class player, confident on the ball and reads the game brilliantly. Made some excellent tackles for him and i am almost certain that he will make it.

Excellent news about Spector.
His progress is even more impressive considering he's been in the country less than a year.
I've only seen him in the US youth team, but he seems to have a strong temperment- determined, self-confident and he can dish out some punishment(he's well built, no bean-pole like Fletcher or O'Shea when he broke through).

Gabe · 22nd April 2004, 06:38

Here's an article about Spector, from April 7 '04.
Sounds like he's settling in well.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...8387507.htm?1c

22nd April 2004, 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Cee

its great to hear that we should be having another CB come thru but whats happened with McShane? it seems that Howard guy has replaced him

Yeah from what I have seen recently Howard, who is playing very well mind, has taken McShanes place in the last few games. I wouldnt worry about it too much because they are both good players and IIR Howard is older than McShane.

Keilyn27 · 22nd April 2004, 09:46

thanks for the info, Dubai

It's very useful for ppl like me who're interested in the youth teams but can't catch them in action.

Lil Cee · 22nd April 2004, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubai_Devil

Yeah from what I have seen recently Howard, who is playing very well mind, has taken McShanes place in the last few games. I wouldnt worry about it too much because they are both good players and IIR Howard is older than McShane.

thanx a lot man

red thru&thru · 22nd April 2004, 19:55

McShane is injured at the mo otherwise spector and McShane are the first choice centre pairing. will def be the centre pairing for next seasons reserves. McShane is a shade better than howard and is also a true leader such as keano!

Lion · 23rd April 2004, 02:49

O'Shea came through last season.
Fletcherhas his chance this season.
Eagles for RW next season

Plechazunga · 23rd April 2004, 04:15

I'm pretty sure McShane has only just broken through to the reserves. he's a great prospect but both Howard and Bardsley are ahead of him at the moment, though I've hardly seen any of Howard.

Very exciting to see Ngalula breaking through! He's very variable though at present - will be magisterial in one match or part of a match, then rubbish in the next.

Eagles isn't like Beckham IMO, and I can't see him moving into the middle. He reminds me a bit of Milner. Also can't see him breaking through next season, apart from the Carling Cup - he's just too young and has lots of developing to do.

This is beginning to sound like a negative post - not meant to be, there are some very exciting talents, BUT: we really shouldn't expect 4-5 players to make it to regular 1st-team level. 2 or 3 is more realistic I reckon. Spector, Bardsley, Jones and Eagles look the best bets to me, though I think SAF will try Timm out next season to see if 1st-team level makes him step up like Sheasy did.

bulk · 23rd April 2004, 04:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plechazunga

I'm pretty sure McShane has only just broken through to the reserves. he's a great prospect but both Howard and Bardsley are ahead of him at the moment, though I've hardly seen any of Howard.

Very exciting to see Ngalula breaking through! He's very variable though at present - will be magisterial in one match or part of a match, then rubbish in the next.

Eagles isn't like Beckham IMO, and I can't see him moving into the middle. He reminds me a bit of Milner. Also can't see him breaking through next season, apart from the Carling Cup - he's just too young and has lots of developing to do.

This is beginning to sound like a negative post - not meant to be, there are some very exciting talents, BUT: we really shouldn't expect 4-5 players to make it to regular 1st-team level. 2 or 3 is more realistic I reckon. Spector, Bardsley, Jones and Eagles look the best bets to me, though I think SAF will try Timm out next season to see if 1st-team level makes him step up like Sheasy did.

you don't know shit you bell end

Plechazunga · 23rd April 2004, 04:25

Well there is that

bulk · 23rd April 2004, 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plechazunga

Well there is that

Number7 · 23rd April 2004, 19:11

Don't know if this has already been posted, but you can view a 3 minute clip of the reserve game against newcastle here.
http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory...tegoryid= 120

Kempy · 23rd April 2004, 21:15

The move with the lads doing one ouch keepy ups to each other straight through Newcastles team was bloody brilliant, what a goal it would have been. Nice touch from Poole to Eagles for the first goal

thanks for the link to the video Number7

sveroa · 25th April 2004, 10:51

Pre-match interview with Mads Timm in local newspaper:

Mads is saying that it has been a bit different from Manchester United and Viking. At United they start training about 10, but in Viking the training doesn't start before after lunch. Therefore, he has to be more prepared to plan his time before lunch and not sleep.

He has got an appartment in Stavanger downtown and just love the small streets and the location of his residence.

As mentioned before, the coach has resigned, and the old player and current executive director (Bjarne Berntsen) has accepted the role as care taker until a new manager is found. It seems like Mads will play against Rosenborg in Trondheim this evening (17 GMT).

Mads have had some difficulties to adapt to a more aggressive playing style in Viking. In United and Danish International U-19 the pressing of ball doesn't start before the midfield, but in Viking it's ongoing all the time. But he appreciate the differeneces and say he will learn alot. He gets advice from Roy, Gary and Ole Gunnar during his stay.

He is looking forward to the opening of the new Viking Stadium May 1st against Molde. Here are the players training for the first time at the new stadium.

sveroa · 25th April 2004, 20:52

Rosenborg - Viking 0-0

Timm played a full match on heavy pitch in Trondheim. The players was very tired after 70-80 minutes due the heavy rain for 3-4 hours earlier today. Viking had to make 2 early substitutions due to injuries so the players had to continue even if they were exhausted.

It seems to that Mads is a better midfielder than a striker. When he comes on runs from the midfield he can use his technique and ability to aim for long shots and crosses to Nevland (striker). Lets hope he can develop to a good attacking utility player for United.

umair · 26th April 2004, 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by sveroa

Rosenborg - Viking 0-0

Timm played a full match on heavy pitch in Trondheim. The players was very tired after 70-80 minutes due the heavy rain for 3-4 hours earlier today. Viking had to make 2 early substitutions due to injuries so the players had to continue even if they were exhausted.

It seems to that Mads is a better midfielder than a striker. When he comes on runs from the midfield he can use his technique and ability to aim for long shots and crosses to Nevland (striker). Lets hope he can develop to a good attacking utility player for United.

How did u rate timms performance and did he show any flashes of skill?

sveroa · 26th April 2004, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by umair

How did u rate timms performance and did he show any flashes of skill?

If you don't compare him with Ronaldo. He is a technically good player and his first touch is better than many other player is yesterday's match, but the conditions didn't allow any technical, short passing football as we are used to in Viking. But when we open our new stadium next saturday, he's welcome to show us some good skills, and his first goal of the season.

I think Timm will develop in Viking, since we use him as a striker in addition to offensive midfielder, depending on formation. He haven't participated in many trainings since he has been away with the Denmark U-21 (or was U-19).

Let's hope Fergie redecide and allow Timm to stay until end of the season.

Keilyn27 · 28th April 2004, 09:35

How were the reserves against Rossendale?

red thru&thru · 28th April 2004, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keilyn27

How were the reserves against Rossendale?

won 7-2.

MPTutd · 28th April 2004, 13:21

Mads Timm played for Denmark U-21's last night against Scotland. I have no info on how he played though.

Keilyn27 · 28th April 2004, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by red thru&thru

won 7-2.

Thanks. Any idea about the lineup as well as the youngsters who caught the eye?

19th April 2004, 13:02	#401 (permalink)
Grom_Hellscream Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Norseland Posts: 536	Latest news from the Viking camp is that their manager has resigned... don´t think it will make any difference on Timms playing time, seeing as he was´nt really involved in the loan deal.

21st April 2004, 21:05	#402 (permalink)
Dubai_Devil Posts: n/a	Ive just finished watching the reserves last match of the season vs Newcastle and all i can say is what a game. United fielded a team with every player under 19 years of age, Chris Eagles being the eldest, and captain. The game finished 2-1 to united with Eagles scoring both goals. His first came after just 30 seconds after a great United move, and then he scored from the penalty spot in the second half. Newcastle scored a late goal which they deserved for some great play through out the match. This is how our team lined up: --------------Heaton------------- -Picken--Spector--Howard--Hogg- -Eagles--N'Galula--R. Jones--Collett- ----------Cooper---Poole--------- Everyone played well but the players that really stood out for me were: Spector who was awesome in defence. Nothing passed him all game and he won virtually every tackle. N'Galula was also very good, he kept the tempo of the game flowing and was our engine room. Eagles had one of his best games today after a few dissapointing performances and played with real confidence. Cooper held the ball up very well and Blake, who came on just after half time for Poole battled excellently, showed great strength and pace and nearly scored himself near the end. In all an excellent game, better than a lot of first team matches ive watched this season and id be dissapointed if about 4 or 5 of the current crop of youngsters dont make it to the first team.

21st April 2004, 22:31	#403 (permalink)
umair Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 422	who did u rate mom and can u give me a bit of info ngalulas playing style and how did richard jones and hogg play?

21st April 2004, 23:12	#406 (permalink)
umair Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 422	What is eagles style of play?Is he skillful like ronaldo and how did he score?Could u post some highlights or goals? We will have 2 reserve teams in the leagues next season and i think r jones,ngalula and martin should feature.What do u think of martin and blake?

21st April 2004, 23:55	#408 (permalink)
RedPhil1957 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: lincs. Posts: 4,316	I watched the match as well and agree a very good game plenty of pace and agression from both sides but played in good spirit. I thought the whole team played well but special mention must go to spector IMO best player on the pitch strong, agressive and yet a ball player. Cooper's control and touch also very good for such a big man. From what was said SAF has high hopes that 4 or 5 of this lot will make it to top and from what I have seen this season and last it could well happen

22nd April 2004, 06:38	#411 (permalink)
Gabe Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Gold Country Posts: 2,156	Here's an article about Spector, from April 7 '04. Sounds like he's settling in well. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...8387507.htm?1c

22nd April 2004, 09:46	#413 (permalink)
Keilyn27 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: who's the bigger muppet - ostrich or chicken little? Posts: 3,002	thanks for the info, Dubai It's very useful for ppl like me who're interested in the youth teams but can't catch them in action.

22nd April 2004, 19:55	#415 (permalink)
red thru&thru Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,384	McShane is injured at the mo otherwise spector and McShane are the first choice centre pairing. will def be the centre pairing for next seasons reserves. McShane is a shade better than howard and is also a true leader such as keano!

23rd April 2004, 02:49	#416 (permalink)
Lion Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 628	O'Shea came through last season. Fletcherhas his chance this season. Eagles for RW next season

23rd April 2004, 04:15	#417 (permalink)
Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint and chairs are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the principality is chief executive of David evroshampiona Gil. Posts: 49,810	I'm pretty sure McShane has only just broken through to the reserves. he's a great prospect but both Howard and Bardsley are ahead of him at the moment, though I've hardly seen any of Howard. Very exciting to see Ngalula breaking through! He's very variable though at present - will be magisterial in one match or part of a match, then rubbish in the next. Eagles isn't like Beckham IMO, and I can't see him moving into the middle. He reminds me a bit of Milner. Also can't see him breaking through next season, apart from the Carling Cup - he's just too young and has lots of developing to do. This is beginning to sound like a negative post - not meant to be, there are some very exciting talents, BUT: we really shouldn't expect 4-5 players to make it to regular 1st-team level. 2 or 3 is more realistic I reckon. Spector, Bardsley, Jones and Eagles look the best bets to me, though I think SAF will try Timm out next season to see if 1st-team level makes him step up like Sheasy did.

23rd April 2004, 04:25	#419 (permalink)
Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint and chairs are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the principality is chief executive of David evroshampiona Gil. Posts: 49,810	Well there is that

23rd April 2004, 19:11	#421 (permalink)
Number7 Ret's Slave Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 22,011	Don't know if this has already been posted, but you can view a 3 minute clip of the reserve game against newcastle here. http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory...tegoryid= 120

23rd April 2004, 21:15	#422 (permalink)
Kempy Trainee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 81	The move with the lads doing one ouch keepy ups to each other straight through Newcastles team was bloody brilliant, what a goal it would have been. Nice touch from Poole to Eagles for the first goal thanks for the link to the video Number7

25th April 2004, 10:51	#423 (permalink)
sveroa Youth Team Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway, Stavanger Posts: 182	Pre-match interview with Mads Timm in local newspaper: Mads is saying that it has been a bit different from Manchester United and Viking. At United they start training about 10, but in Viking the training doesn't start before after lunch. Therefore, he has to be more prepared to plan his time before lunch and not sleep. He has got an appartment in Stavanger downtown and just love the small streets and the location of his residence. As mentioned before, the coach has resigned, and the old player and current executive director (Bjarne Berntsen) has accepted the role as care taker until a new manager is found. It seems like Mads will play against Rosenborg in Trondheim this evening (17 GMT). Mads have had some difficulties to adapt to a more aggressive playing style in Viking. In United and Danish International U-19 the pressing of ball doesn't start before the midfield, but in Viking it's ongoing all the time. But he appreciate the differeneces and say he will learn alot. He gets advice from Roy, Gary and Ole Gunnar during his stay. He is looking forward to the opening of the new Viking Stadium May 1st against Molde. Here are the players training for the first time at the new stadium.

25th April 2004, 20:52	#424 (permalink)
sveroa Youth Team Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norway, Stavanger Posts: 182	Rosenborg - Viking 0-0 Timm played a full match on heavy pitch in Trondheim. The players was very tired after 70-80 minutes due the heavy rain for 3-4 hours earlier today. Viking had to make 2 early substitutions due to injuries so the players had to continue even if they were exhausted. It seems to that Mads is a better midfielder than a striker. When he comes on runs from the midfield he can use his technique and ability to aim for long shots and crosses to Nevland (striker). Lets hope he can develop to a good attacking utility player for United.

28th April 2004, 09:35	#427 (permalink)
Keilyn27 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: who's the bigger muppet - ostrich or chicken little? Posts: 3,002	How were the reserves against Rossendale?

28th April 2004, 13:21	#429 (permalink)
MPTutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London Posts: 3,090	Mads Timm played for Denmark U-21's last night against Scotland. I have no info on how he played though.