Youth Reports

quiet_united · 9th April 2005, 03:58

just read the local paper and it says that the Manchester United U21 team are going to Vietnam for a friendly at the end of this month. Is that true ? if so,what a great news, but feck... i'm in Sydney now

feck · 11th April 2005, 20:56

Won 2-1 vs. Shrewsbury Town. I wasn't there but sources at Hyde tell me that Bellion scored after 80 mins, they equalised on 82 before Richie Jones got the winner on 89 mins.

Boston or Sheff. Wed. away in the final.

On edit - SW beat Boston 1-0 tonight so Hillsborough it is for the final. SW are the holders, by the way.

11th April 2005, 21:31

Nice one, cheers feck.

Epic · 12th April 2005, 09:21

Bellion is a goalmachine for the reserves

oskarutd · 12th April 2005, 11:17

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Originally Posted by feck

Won 2-1 vs. Shrewsbury Town. I wasn't there but sources at Hyde tell me that Bellion scored after 80 mins, they equalised on 82 before Richie Jones got the winner on 89 mins.

Boston or Sheff. Wed. away in the final.

On edit - SW beat Boston 1-0 tonight so Hillsborough it is for the final. SW are the holders, by the way.

I know that Lee was in goal. Other player were Collett, Jones, R, Bellion and Marsh.
Does anyone have more info?

oskarutd · 12th April 2005, 14:00

I understand that Arthur Gomez scored 3 for the reserves last week and in the game before that.
It seems also that their first team is still in free fall.
Whom should we send to them next season?

redfromcanada · 12th April 2005, 14:37

What is the level of play that Royal Antwerp play at? Is it on par with the Championship or lower? If lower, then I don't see any need to send any players there as it doesn't seem that they will develop properly.

oskarutd · 12th April 2005, 14:40

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Originally Posted by redfromcanada

What is the level of play that Royal Antwerp play at? Is it on par with the Championship or lower? If lower, then I don't see any need to send any players there as it doesn't seem that they will develop properly.

Chadwick was a success as well as Hickingbotham and Wallwork.

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 14:41

Okay I can be bothered/ don't have the time to read through all this. Can I suggest that a youth team forum might be an idea? If not can we have a new thread from the start of next season.

I have a couple of questions for the youth team experts.
1) David Jones - Box to box midfielder, should he be given a chance to see if he's the man to replace Keane from the end of next season.
2) Lee Martin - Left Winger? How long before he's ready to make a step up
3) Pique - Central Defender - When should he be looked at as a long term partner for Rio.

Mozza · 12th April 2005, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Looking Busy

Okay I can be bothered/ don't have the time to read through all this. Can I suggest that a youth team forum might be an idea? If not can we have a new thread from the start of next season.

I have a couple of questions for the youth team experts.
1) David Jones - Box to box midfielder, should he be given a chance to see if he's the man to replace Keane from the end of next season.
2) Lee Martin - Left Winger? How long before he's ready to make a step up
3) Pique - Central Defender - When should he be looked at as a long term partner for Rio.

Jones is never going to replace Keane, he might replace Scholes though and is good enough defensively so we wont need 3 men in midfield

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:03

I didn't mean about the influence factor, i meant as the box to box midfielder, how his tackling ability?

Mozza · 12th April 2005, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Looking Busy

I didn't mean about the influence factor, i meant as the box to box midfielder, how his tackling ability?

Fine, but that means hell have to play next to a dm, not as a dm that Keane does these days.

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Mozza

Fine, but that means hell have to play next to a dm, not as a dm that Keane does these days.

So you don't think he could fill the role as a box to box player along side a sinlge, more attack minded player?

Only seen him play a couple of times, not really enough to guage him well enough. Sorry for all the questions

Mozza · 12th April 2005, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Looking Busy

So you don't think he could fill the role as a box to box player along side a sinlge, more attack minded player?

Only seen him play a couple of times, not really enough to guage him well enough. Sorry for all the questions

No, but that scenario is unusual, you dont see Gerrard, Lampard, Viera and others paired with attacking players, they all play with defensive midifielders (Hamann, Makalele, Silva).

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Mozza

No, but that scenario is unusual, you dont see Gerrard, Lampard, Viera and others paired with attacking players, they all play with defensive midifielders (Hamann, Makalele, Silva).

That's true, never thought about it like that.

Anyway, when do you think he will be ready for a step up?

Mozza · 12th April 2005, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Looking Busy

That's true, never thought about it like that.

Anyway, when do you think he will be ready for a step up?

Hes been ready for a year, its said hes too small, but if your good enough it does not matter. He should play next to Keane in the next league game and allowed to sink or swim, its the only way to tell if hes good enough.

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Mozza

Hes been ready for a year, its said hes too small, but if your good enough it does not matter. He should play next to Keane in the next league game and allowed to sink or swim, its the only way to tell if hes good enough.

That was my feeling

12th April 2005, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Looking Busy

Okay I can be bothered/ don't have the time to read through all this. Can I suggest that a youth team forum might be an idea? If not can we have a new thread from the start of next season.

I have a couple of questions for the youth team experts.
1) David Jones - Box to box midfielder, should he be given a chance to see if he's the man to replace Keane from the end of next season.
2) Lee Martin - Left Winger? How long before he's ready to make a step up
3) Pique - Central Defender - When should he be looked at as a long term partner for Rio.

Jones still has a teenagers body, but is the closest reserve team player to the first team. I really think he should be given a chance next season to show what he can do as he has been the best reserve team player for the last couple of seasons.

Martin, left wing, probably wont see him for the next couple of seasons but he is very talented, may go on loan the season after next. Got high hopes for him.

Pique, very classy defender, similar to Rio, also wont see him for the next couple of seasons. Spector is ahead of him.

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:43

If Martin can develop and will be ready in a couple of years then we have an ideal replacement for Giggs, who at 31 probably only has 2 years left in his legs.

12th April 2005, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Looking Busy

If Martin can develop and will be ready in a couple of years then we have an ideal replacement for Giggs, who at 31 probably only has 2 years left in his legs.

That would be ideal but if I remember correctly Martin is 17 right now, and I wouldnt expect him to make the first team other than a league cup match or meaningless CL match before he is 20 unless he really does progress quickly.

Looking Busy · 12th April 2005, 15:52

This further proves my point about the fact we have to remember that we support a club built on a string youth tradition, maybe it's about time we remembered that and stopped panic buying

feck · 13th April 2005, 18:33

United were confirmed as Pontins Holidays League Division One (West) champions today when Blackpool failed to beat Bury (in fact they lost 2-0). Hurrah!!

13th April 2005, 18:46

Well done lads.

Im pissed off that MUTV arnt showing the reserve match vs Bolton tommorow though. No idea why not.

mista john · 14th April 2005, 11:15

It's sad down at the Bosuil stadium. Despite the return of coach Regi Van Acker, who was in charge when Higginbotham, O'Shea and Wallwork were over in Belgium, it's all doom and gloom.

Dong gets the occasional hour but never scores and Archie Gomez gets even less playing time. Gomez did score a hat-trick for the reserves last week but that's it for good news. Antwerp (pre-season favourites for promotion) have won one of their last ten games and they will probably not even make the division 2 play-offs. Oh dear!

RioNkeanofan · 14th April 2005, 11:46

well thats not good news at all

but congrats to the lads on the pontins win now on to the reserve leage and the 2 cups

this is what really matters

after all children are the future

where did you hear that the game isn´t on MUTV i thought i heard steve talking about it being live lastnight on talk of the devils

14th April 2005, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RioNkeanofan

well thats not good news at all

but congrats to the lads on the pontins win now on to the reserve leage and the 2 cups

this is what really matters

after all children are the future

where did you hear that the game isn´t on MUTV i thought i heard steve talking about it being live lastnight on talk of the devils

On the news they said that they wouldnt be showing it live, instead they are showing highlights of the Blackpool game and then they will show highlights of the Bolton game on Friday I think. No idea why though.

RioNkeanofan · 14th April 2005, 14:26

that makes no sense at all

soccerbest · 14th April 2005, 22:14

And what a let-down too, our reserves thrash Bolton 5-0. Lee Martin grabbed a hat-trick and the other 2 goals came from Rossi and Heath.

oskarutd · 15th April 2005, 13:52

Does anyone have the subs, used and/or unused for the Bolton game.
No Bellion? A place on the bench on Sunday?

Escobar · 15th April 2005, 13:54

does anyone know more about lee martin?

Keilyn27 · 15th April 2005, 14:11

United hammer reserves
By Mark Heys

Bolton reserves suffered their heaviest defeat of the season last night as arch rivals Manchester United swept them away in the FA Premier Reserve League game at Altrincham.

A hat-trick from Lee Martin, as well as further goals from Colin Heath and Giuseppe Rossi, condemned Neil McDonald's young Wanderers side to a 5-0 loss and extended the recent losing streak to three games.

United in contrast, now look to tie up the FA Premier Reserve league title in their remaining two games as they look to pull away from city rivals Manchester City who are hot on their tails in second place.

Wanderers went in at half time just a goal down as Martin had earlier lashed in a shot on the half hour mark which gave goalkeeper Chris Howarth no chance at all, but the second half was a different tale with goals coming thick and fast.

On 54 minutes former Antwerp loanee Colin Heath converted United's second after some good build up play from midfielder Richard Jones. Martin then helped himself to a second and United's third with yet another fine finish mid way through the half.

His hatrick was complete in the closing minutes of the game as he netted from close range after the Wanderers defence had failed to clear their lines and with just three minutes remaining Rossi added the fifth and final goal to put the nail in the Bolton coffin.

Reserves manager Neil McDonald will be hoping to restore some pride in the remaining games against Sunderland, Wolves and Everton.

Bolton Reserves:Chris Howarth, Rhys Powell, Bradley Hill, Charlie Comyn-Platt, Jason Talbot, Dale Whitehead, Luke Magill, Reda Kribib, James Sinclair, Bedi Buval, Karl Luisi

United Reserves: Tom Heaton, Paul McShane, Adam Eckersley, Gerard Pique, Jonathan Spector, David Fox, Richard Jones, David Jones, Colin Heath, Guiseppe Rossi, Lee Martin.

http://boltonwanderers.rivals.net/de...2&stid=8378394

15th April 2005, 20:36

11th April 2005, 20:56	#1122 (permalink)
feck Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I'm here, in front of the computer ..... duhhh stoopid! Posts: 135	PHL Cup Semi Won 2-1 vs. Shrewsbury Town. I wasn't there but sources at Hyde tell me that Bellion scored after 80 mins, they equalised on 82 before Richie Jones got the winner on 89 mins. Boston or Sheff. Wed. away in the final. On edit - SW beat Boston 1-0 tonight so Hillsborough it is for the final. SW are the holders, by the way.

12th April 2005, 14:00	#1126 (permalink)
oskarutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,328	Antwerp I understand that Arthur Gomez scored 3 for the reserves last week and in the game before that. It seems also that their first team is still in free fall. Whom should we send to them next season?

13th April 2005, 18:33	#1142 (permalink)
feck Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I'm here, in front of the computer ..... duhhh stoopid! Posts: 135	Champions United were confirmed as Pontins Holidays League Division One (West) champions today when Blackpool failed to beat Bury (in fact they lost 2-0). Hurrah!!

14th April 2005, 11:15	#1144 (permalink)
mista john Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brussels, just behind the Mannekin Pis Posts: 895	An(twerps) news It's sad down at the Bosuil stadium. Despite the return of coach Regi Van Acker, who was in charge when Higginbotham, O'Shea and Wallwork were over in Belgium, it's all doom and gloom. Dong gets the occasional hour but never scores and Archie Gomez gets even less playing time. Gomez did score a hat-trick for the reserves last week but that's it for good news. Antwerp (pre-season favourites for promotion) have won one of their last ten games and they will probably not even make the division 2 play-offs. Oh dear!

15th April 2005, 13:52	#1149 (permalink)
oskarutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,328	For the staticians Does anyone have the subs, used and/or unused for the Bolton game. No Bellion? A place on the bench on Sunday?

9th April 2005, 03:58	#1121 (permalink)
quiet_united Vietnamese Red Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mars Posts: 2,437	just read the local paper and it says that the Manchester United U21 team are going to Vietnam for a friendly at the end of this month. Is that true ? if so,what a great news, but feck... i'm in Sydney now

11th April 2005, 21:31	#1123 (permalink)
Dubai_Devil Posts: n/a	Nice one, cheers feck.

12th April 2005, 09:21	#1124 (permalink)
Epic First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: no man's land Posts: 6,051	Bellion is a goalmachine for the reserves

12th April 2005, 14:37	#1127 (permalink)
redfromcanada Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 692	What is the level of play that Royal Antwerp play at? Is it on par with the Championship or lower? If lower, then I don't see any need to send any players there as it doesn't seem that they will develop properly.

12th April 2005, 14:41	#1129 (permalink)
Looking Busy First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between a bad girls thighs Posts: 22,146	Okay I can be bothered/ don't have the time to read through all this. Can I suggest that a youth team forum might be an idea? If not can we have a new thread from the start of next season. I have a couple of questions for the youth team experts. 1) David Jones - Box to box midfielder, should he be given a chance to see if he's the man to replace Keane from the end of next season. 2) Lee Martin - Left Winger? How long before he's ready to make a step up 3) Pique - Central Defender - When should he be looked at as a long term partner for Rio.

12th April 2005, 15:03	#1131 (permalink)
Looking Busy First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between a bad girls thighs Posts: 22,146	I didn't mean about the influence factor, i meant as the box to box midfielder, how his tackling ability?

12th April 2005, 15:43	#1139 (permalink)
Looking Busy First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between a bad girls thighs Posts: 22,146	If Martin can develop and will be ready in a couple of years then we have an ideal replacement for Giggs, who at 31 probably only has 2 years left in his legs.

12th April 2005, 15:52	#1141 (permalink)
Looking Busy First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between a bad girls thighs Posts: 22,146	This further proves my point about the fact we have to remember that we support a club built on a string youth tradition, maybe it's about time we remembered that and stopped panic buying

13th April 2005, 18:46	#1143 (permalink)
Dubai_Devil Posts: n/a	Well done lads. Im pissed off that MUTV arnt showing the reserve match vs Bolton tommorow though. No idea why not.

14th April 2005, 11:46	#1145 (permalink)
RioNkeanofan First with the news Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bitchville Posts: 3,897	well thats not good news at all but congrats to the lads on the pontins win now on to the reserve leage and the 2 cups this is what really matters after all children are the future where did you hear that the game isn´t on MUTV i thought i heard steve talking about it being live lastnight on talk of the devils

14th April 2005, 14:26	#1147 (permalink)
RioNkeanofan First with the news Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bitchville Posts: 3,897	that makes no sense at all

14th April 2005, 22:14	#1148 (permalink)
soccerbest First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: At my home Posts: 6,564	And what a let-down too, our reserves thrash Bolton 5-0. Lee Martin grabbed a hat-trick and the other 2 goals came from Rossi and Heath.

15th April 2005, 13:54	#1150 (permalink)
Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Federer-Land Posts: 12,102	does anyone know more about lee martin?

15th April 2005, 14:11	#1151 (permalink)
Keilyn27 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: who's the bigger muppet - ostrich or chicken little? Posts: 3,002	United hammer reserves By Mark Heys Bolton reserves suffered their heaviest defeat of the season last night as arch rivals Manchester United swept them away in the FA Premier Reserve League game at Altrincham. A hat-trick from Lee Martin, as well as further goals from Colin Heath and Giuseppe Rossi, condemned Neil McDonald's young Wanderers side to a 5-0 loss and extended the recent losing streak to three games. United in contrast, now look to tie up the FA Premier Reserve league title in their remaining two games as they look to pull away from city rivals Manchester City who are hot on their tails in second place. Wanderers went in at half time just a goal down as Martin had earlier lashed in a shot on the half hour mark which gave goalkeeper Chris Howarth no chance at all, but the second half was a different tale with goals coming thick and fast. On 54 minutes former Antwerp loanee Colin Heath converted United's second after some good build up play from midfielder Richard Jones. Martin then helped himself to a second and United's third with yet another fine finish mid way through the half. His hatrick was complete in the closing minutes of the game as he netted from close range after the Wanderers defence had failed to clear their lines and with just three minutes remaining Rossi added the fifth and final goal to put the nail in the Bolton coffin. Reserves manager Neil McDonald will be hoping to restore some pride in the remaining games against Sunderland, Wolves and Everton. Bolton Reserves:Chris Howarth, Rhys Powell, Bradley Hill, Charlie Comyn-Platt, Jason Talbot, Dale Whitehead, Luke Magill, Reda Kribib, James Sinclair, Bedi Buval, Karl Luisi United Reserves: Tom Heaton, Paul McShane, Adam Eckersley, Gerard Pique, Jonathan Spector, David Fox, Richard Jones, David Jones, Colin Heath, Guiseppe Rossi, Lee Martin. http://boltonwanderers.rivals.net/de...2&stid=8378394

15th April 2005, 20:36	#1152 (permalink)
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