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Old 14th January 2004, 10:29   #241 (permalink)
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FA Youth Cup: Man Utd 2 Man City 0

Million-pound teenager Lee Martin limped out of the action at Old Trafford as holders United came out on top in the FA Youth Cup Manchester derby.

Martin's potential persuaded Sir Alex Ferguson to pay Wimbledon an initial £200,000 last month with the promise of more to follow, but the 16-year-old was a muted force before suffering a hamstring strain 15 minutes from time.

The home side still took another step towards a record 10th triumph in the competition in front of a 5,000-plus crowd including Ferguson, Kevin Keegan and Roy Keane.

But the evening will not be remembered with too much fondness by Kasper Schmeichel.

On the ground where his father played so many starring roles, the young Dane brought back some old memories with a massive throw over the halfway line to set up one City attack.

Caught out

Unfortunately for Schmeichel, who will be on the bench for the first-team in their FA Cup replay at Leicester, he was caught out of position for both United goals.

First, he advanced too far as Sylvan Ebanks-Blake chased down a loose ball inside the City box, allowing the United striker to deftly lift a cross over the stranded keeper, giving Ramon Calliste the easiest of finishes.

Then, within a minute of Martin's departure, Schmeichel failed to come for a routine punt downfield and Callum Flanagan muscled his way in to head home.

City did have their moments, notably when Nedum Onuoha crashed a header against a post from Carlos Logan's free-kick.

But though the visitors held sway in midfield for much of the contest, United's defence, led superbly by skipper Paul McShanem, succeeded in snuffing out most of their advances before they got close to threatening Tom Heaton's goal.
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Old 14th January 2004, 21:43   #242 (permalink)
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FA Youth Cup: Man Utd 2 Man City 0

Million-pound teenager Lee Martin limped out of the action at Old Trafford as holders United came out on top in the FA Youth Cup Manchester derby.

Martin's potential persuaded Sir Alex Ferguson to pay Wimbledon an initial £200,000 last month with the promise of more to follow, but the 16-year-old was a muted force before suffering a hamstring strain 15 minutes from time.

The home side still took another step towards a record 10th triumph in the competition in front of a 5,000-plus crowd including Ferguson, Kevin Keegan and Roy Keane.

But the evening will not be remembered with too much fondness by Kasper Schmeichel.

On the ground where his father played so many starring roles, the young Dane brought back some old memories with a massive throw over the halfway line to set up one City attack.

Caught out

Unfortunately for Schmeichel, who will be on the bench for the first-team in their FA Cup replay at Leicester, he was caught out of position for both United goals.

First, he advanced too far as Sylvan Ebanks-Blake chased down a loose ball inside the City box, allowing the United striker to deftly lift a cross over the stranded keeper, giving Ramon Calliste the easiest of finishes.

Then, within a minute of Martin's departure, Schmeichel failed to come for a routine punt downfield and Callum Flanagan muscled his way in to head home.

City did have their moments, notably when Nedum Onuoha crashed a header against a post from Carlos Logan's free-kick.

But though the visitors held sway in midfield for much of the contest, United's defence, led superbly by skipper Paul McShanem, succeeded in snuffing out most of their advances before they got close to threatening Tom Heaton's goal.
not sure if this writer saw match but Martin was very good expecially in first half and the united midfield were in control for most of match
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Old 18th January 2004, 19:27   #243 (permalink)
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Agreed I was very impressed with Martin. Blake also had a good game. Our defence waqs generally sound except for crosses where, I've got to admit City looked very effective in thatarea.

Nevertheless its always good to bear Citeh
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Old 21st January 2004, 11:16   #244 (permalink)
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United will be playing Norwich City in the next round of the FA Youth Cup after Norwich beat Sheff Utd 2-0 last night.
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Old 27th January 2004, 22:32   #245 (permalink)
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looks like nardiello had a good debut for barnsley: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlin...289652&cc=5901
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Old 27th January 2004, 22:52   #246 (permalink)
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2 goals and an assist, not bad at all i dont see why we dont loan out more players to nationwide teams
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Old 28th January 2004, 07:00   #247 (permalink)
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Old 31st January 2004, 22:15   #248 (permalink)
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Just heard that Eddie Johnson has scored on his debut for Royal Antwerp I'll try to confirm this soon.
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Old 1st February 2004, 08:33   #249 (permalink)
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Manchester United defender Alan Tate is on the brink of sealing a permanent move to Swansea City.
The tough-tackling centre back has spent two separate spells on loan at Vetch Field but returned to Old Trafford recently, and made an appearance in the reserve team defeat to Everton last week.

Brian Flynn is hopeful of wrapping up a deal to sign the 21-year-old this week, with talks underway in an attempt to complete the signing.

Tate also had a temporary stint with United's feeder club Royal Antwerp in 2001/2002, but has been unable to work his way into Sir Alex Ferguson's first team squad plans.

The Swans have also confirmed the arrival of West Ham's Shaun Byrne, on loan, as the Welsh side, still in the FA Cup after their heroics against Preston at the weekend, look to bolster their resources.
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Old 1st February 2004, 10:56   #250 (permalink)
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updates on ole's comeback'll be much appreciated
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Old 1st February 2004, 10:57   #251 (permalink)
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updates on ole's comeback'll be much appreciated
Didn't know Ole was considered a 'youth' player

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Old 2nd February 2004, 09:31   #252 (permalink)
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Eddie Johnson did scored on his debut and played the whole game. Bardsley came on at half-time as well.

From the Antwerp website www.rafc.be

If anyone can translate the match report it would be great.
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Old 3rd February 2004, 09:44   #253 (permalink)
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I've taken the liberty of running through the match report on Royal Antwerp's website via a free online translation site, and have come up with some interesting, and hilarious results. It's not foolproof, so cut me some slack here!

I'm also amazed how no one seems to care nor even mention about the other Manchester United players who are in the Royal Antwerp squad. Souleymane Mamam, who is at least three years younger than Eddie Johnson and Mads Timm, has already established himself in the Antwerp first eleven as an attacking midfielder. Arthur Gomez was on the bench with Bardsley for the game against Heusden-Zolder. Not sure what's happened with Abdulrahman Yasser Hussain, read some good things about him, but seems to be missing, either due to injury or Qatar national team duty.

So here's the translation of the three bits in the match report that mentioned Eddie Johnson. Mamam also played in the starting eleven, but the report made no comment about his performance.

(1) Anwerp plays again with a strengthened middle field and with Shishuba in support of simply pointed Eddie Johnson.

[I take it that Johnson was the centre-forward spearhead a la Van Nistelrooy]

(2) Eddie Johnson sticks than become nose at the window, after badly remove of the visiting apology, but be shot through a green-white bone cracked. Heusden is boss Antwerp not tries well on to fall, and in the end phase of the first half even fanatical, but it hits really till in the neighborhood of Bailly. We drink tea by 0-1

[Hilarious. It probably means Johnson really got stuck in Hughes/Whiteside-style.]

(3) Sishuba enters only through on Bailly, the Heusdense goalie can its shot yet stop but the goedgevolgde and tireless Johnson kicks the 1-1.

[God knows what's "goedgevolgde", but if its paired with "tireless", we can safely assume it's a good thing! Sounds like a creditable performance overall.]
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Old 3rd February 2004, 10:31   #254 (permalink)
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Didn't know Ole was considered a 'youth' player

looks baby-face enough to be one
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Old 5th February 2004, 08:55   #255 (permalink)
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How’re Marsh and Flanagan? Updates on their injuries?

Btw the way what’s with happening with that Rincon fellow, is he at Sporting yet? How’s his progress?

Also has Simeon Jackson passed his trial or is he back at Rushden and Diamonds?
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Old 5th February 2004, 10:37   #256 (permalink)
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Also has Simeon Jackson passed his trial or is he back at Rushden and Diamonds?
A quick Google took me to rdfc.net where I found a small piece on their forum suggesting that, on or around the 30th January, he featured on the back page of the local paper suggesting that he was about to go out on trial to city(!!) and that a fee had been agreed already presuming the trial to be successful.
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Old 6th February 2004, 08:17   #257 (permalink)
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A quick Google took me to rdfc.net where I found a small piece on their forum suggesting that, on or around the 30th January, he featured on the back page of the local paper suggesting that he was about to go out on trial to city(!!) and that a fee had been agreed already presuming the trial to be successful.
So presumbably he wasn't ***?
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Old 7th February 2004, 18:54   #258 (permalink)
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Danny Nardiello scored again for Barnsley today.
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Old 7th February 2004, 19:19   #259 (permalink)
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Danny Nardiello scored again for Barnsley today.
And i heard that he has been called up by Mark Hughes for the Wales team.
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And i heard that he has been called up by Mark Hughes for the Wales team.
I thought he was English?

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Old 8th February 2004, 08:28   #261 (permalink)
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Yup he is, but he has got also second nationality, that is Welsh
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Yup he is, but he has got also second nationality, that is Welsh
I presume his dad is Welsh?
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Old 11th February 2004, 10:13   #263 (permalink)
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Barnsley are set to run the rule over Ben Williams after he joined the club on trial from Manchester United.
The 21-year-old keeper is a regular in United's reserves, but is believed to want first-team football.

Williams undertook loan spells with Coventry and Chesterfield in the 2002-03 season, but is yet to make a senior appearance for The Red Devils.

The Tykes already have one Old Trafford youngster in the squad, after Sir Alex Ferguson allowed Daniel Nardiello (pictured) to join on loan.

Williams will play in two non first-team matches for Barnsley and is in line to feature for the club's reserves against Tranmere Rovers
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Old 12th February 2004, 08:24   #264 (permalink)
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Internet based information on our youth teams, ie. U17´s & U19´s & the FA Youth Cup team & the reserves as well, is arguably rather poor (apart from this hugely popular thread of course). To me it seems weird taking into consideration what an important part of this great club youth development has been. I therefore would like to thank everyone who´s been involved in the making of this valuable piece information during the past two seasons!

Knowing (?) there are a few lads at the caf having some extra knowledge on our future stars (due to attending games and watching MUTV) I would be truly grateful should anyone be interested in writing some sort of reports on the first halves of the youth teams seasons. Just some views on the development and potentials of the lads (especially on the not-so-well-known-ones).


Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!


P.S. Someone should make links to the Tine´s Antwerpen-thread and to the last seasons Youth Reports -thread, as I don´t know how to do it...
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Old 12th February 2004, 08:31   #265 (permalink)
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P.S. Someone should make links to the Tine´s Antwerpen-thread and to the last seasons Youth Reports -thread, as I don´t know how to do it...
Milk Cup 03 Special: United youngsters at the NI Milk Cup 2003

Tine's thread: Bardsley & Johnson at Antwerp (Belgium) update.

Can't find last season's youth thread tho

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Old 12th February 2004, 09:21   #266 (permalink)
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Thanks Melv! Actually I found thread from the Mods forum saying - as some might recall - that due to technical problems caused by too many posts in it, the Youth Reports 2002/03 -thread has somewhat destroyed itself!

NIALL! MODS! Any news on this subject? Should we, as a precaution start a Youth Reports 2003/04 vol. 2 -thread?!?

BTW, it was reported last week that young winger Danny Byrne, who had a rather unsuccessful loan period at Hartlepool earlier this season, was released by club. Good luck to him! Link

Oh! Another thought sprang in to my mind while searching for that thread I mentioned. I realised that there were quite a few smallish threads about youngsters all around the forum. A "link-expert" having too much sparetime could do one heck of a job by posting links to at least some of them. Just a thought... I suppose there´s too much work in it.
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Sbragia Makes Reserve Changes

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has not been included in tonight's reserve team to face Bury in the Manchester Senior Cup, indicating Sir Alex may be ready to include the Norwegian striker in Saturday's FA Cup Derby against Man City.

Ricky Sbragia includes David Bellion in an attacking line-up to face Bury at Moss Lane, while Ben Collett makes the bench for the first time since suffering a broken leg at the end of last season.

The Bury-born 19-year-old midfielder played half an hour for the Under-19s in a 3-1 win over Bolton at the weekend and makes his long-awaited return from a nine-month injury lay-off.

Collett won the Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year award last season, impressing in the FA Youth Cup and scoring United's crucial second goal in the first leg of the final against Boro.

Collett joined in the celebrations as United lifted their ninth Youth Cup title at Old Trafford. As a reward for the youngster's performances in the competition, Ben was handed his first start for the reserves in the final match of the season, also against Middlesbrough at the Riverside.

However, in an innocous challenge just before half time, Collett suffered a broken leg, a nightmare end to what was an excellent season for the left-sided midfielder.

Tonight's match at Moss Lane kicks off at 7pm.

Meanwhile, Ricky Sbragia's side will face Newport County in a friendly match on Wednesday 31 March at Newport Stadium (Kick-off 7:45pm).

United Team: James Jowsey; David Fox, Danny Pugh, Mark Lynch, Lee Lawrence; Kieran Richardson, David Jones, Mads Timm, David Bellion; Matty Williams, Colin Heath. Subs: Kenny Cooper, Tommy Lee (GK), David Poole, Ben Collett.

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Interesting that decision on Ole; I´ve my doubts on wheather he is ready for first team action so soon after recovery.
Another thing that caught my eye is that squad. I mean look the ages of those lads! They´re mostly under twenty and yet they´re playing against adults (though it´s only Bury).
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Old 12th February 2004, 15:02   #268 (permalink)
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MY VIEW ON OUR GEMS (1/5)

While I´m at it, I decided to take a look at our future gems myself. My knowledge is quite scarce and could well be false at some occasions. I´ve seen only a handful of ´em lads in action either on tv or on field (mainly Spector during U17´s World Championships in Finland last summer). In addition to that I´ve kept an eye on what has been said about the boys all around internet. I decided to include Flecher and co just for comparisonal reasons. Feel free to correct me and/or make a list of the same kind yourselves. The namelist and data is based on CM 03/04… It´s not much, but here goes for nothing.


Introduction

We´ve got a few respected coaches, a´la Choccy (U19´s), Sbragia (reserves) and Maulensteen (academy), to bring the best out of the lads. I think the decision to appoint some foreing wizards [Filho (U17´s), etc.] to work at Carrington was a masterstroke. That, together with the now-so-popular trend of signing youngsters from all around the globe should bear some fruit in a few years time. Then there is this recently widened possibility to co-operate with our feeder clubs. And yet it should be realised that our reserve team is week-in week-out very young and inexperienced. So it is obviously a good test for every young player to play in the reserves against first team strenghtened massives and scousers.

Future is bright, future is red! Though we should not forget that ”you can´t win anything with kids”!




Explanations:

Bolded and underlined = already a first team player
Bolded = almost there
Underlined = one to watch
Italic = doesn´t have what it takes, apparently
Normal = N/A


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After finalizing my post I realised that I´m the one who has too much sparetime on my hands. TBH I should´ve been writing a sociological essey and preparing myself to an uni exam. There is an obvious takeover bid about to happen, as United is trying to take over my life…
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MY VIEW ON OUR GEMS (2/5)


GOALKEEPERS

Crockett, Lee: 17, english, GK
- N/A

Daniels, Luke: 16, english, GK
- N/A

Heaton, Thomas: 17, english, GK
-quite promising youth international, has already been on bench for reserves, has a good kick

Jowsey, James: 20, english, GK
-seemingly won´t make it as he´s not getting too many games at any level nor has been on loan

Lee, Tommy: 18, english, GK
- N/A

Steele, Luke: 19, english, GK
-bought from Peterborough for £500K, youth international with huge amount of potential, only a matter of time before he gets his chance in the first team

Williams, Ben: 21, mancunian, GK
-third choice keeper during the last few seasons but debut still to be made, currently about to move on loan/permanently to Barnsley, has had a few OKish loan periods
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