Batman - The Dark Knight

KeyserSoze · 18th June 2008, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Garethw

I don't think so.

I just linked a photo i saw i don't know if its legit, just like you dont.

Garethw · 18th June 2008, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

I just linked a photo i saw i don't know if its legit, just like you dont.

I know dude i was only kidding

Alex · 18th June 2008, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

nice

IBleedRed · 18th June 2008, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

Dont make me expose my nerdy side and carry out the is Batman a superhero argument!!

i see your point i thought about it as i was typing it

ecantona7 · 19th June 2008, 19:20

Can they hurry up already with it's release. My hands have worn out from all that wanking.

Garethw · 2nd July 2008, 16:54

Review from the SUN Newspaper!

BATMAN's return to cinemas in The Dark Knight was always going to be the must-see superhero movie of the year.
And we've had a sneak peek at the eagerly-awaited flick, which was cast further into the spotlight following the untimely death of Heath Ledger, who plays the Joker.
Now here's our verdict on this summer's biggest blockbuster.

BATMAN is back and fans can breathe a sigh of relief.

The hotly anticipated sequel to 2005's Batman Begins sees Christian Bale reprises his role as the Caped Crusader/Bruce Wayne but this film is all about one man, and that's Heath Ledger.

His electrifying performance as The Joker serves up the most menacing, villainous appearance on screen since Hannibal Lecter.

Heath steals the movie, which opens with a bank robbery that sets in motion the criminal rampage of his character.

He may look like Marilyn Manson on steroids but he is clearly in control of the heinous plans leaving Gotham City in need of a hero.

The modern-style story mirrors The Joker against a 21st century terrorist, rather than an average comic book villain.

He despises society and it's so-called morality, and knows creating chaos and destruction is the only thing he can rely on.

Bruce Wayne meanwhile, as well as Batman, has matured. But he is still in conflict with his double life, hoping one day that Batman will become obsolete.

His struggle shows that what is good for Batman is not necessarily good for Bruce Wayne and is desperate for Gotham's criminal-bashing District Attorney Harvey Dent to be recognised by the people of Gotham as their real hero.

But as the The Joker begins a cat and mouse game to make Batman break his "no killing" rule, things hot up.

Bale is most definitely the actor most like the original comic book hero compared to former rubber clad stars Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer and George Clooney.

He plays it with a understated realism unlike his generic Hollywood predecessors and although his character isn’t always likeable, he gives the impression of being a human being, albeit a playboy millionaire.

He also has the futuristic gadgets of a James Bond character, and an array of fast cars and motorcycles. And he needs them. In Gotham these days, there are numerous gangs to contend with as well as the main crime syndicate heads.

The film was shot in Chicago and this two and a half hour sequel features spectacular aerial shots with the upper and lower roadways used for some pretty hairy, dynamic car chases, including one ill fated 18 wheeler.

Bale was able to do most of the fight scenes himself and didn’t have to rely on special effects as much as he did previously. He bulked up for the role, and like for his previous characters – from The Machinist in which he lost 60 pounds, to buffing up for American Psycho - he is no stranger to shape shifting his form for the sake of cinema accuracy.

The transition of Harvey Dent to evil Two Face is probably the most interesting aspect of the story. Aaron Eckhart’s performance is both moving and fearful.

And the subplot ‘love triangle’ between him, Bruce Wayne and Bruce's girlfriend Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal) adds some emotional weight.

Gyllenhaal, as always, is authentic and even more pronounced when considering the lacklustre performance from Katie Holmes in the same role in Batman Begins.

Gary Oldman is a treat as Commissioner Gordon but Oscar winner Morgan Freeman's role as Lucius Fox is a little superfluous.

Michael Caine's reassuring and welcoming presence though as Alfred The Butler is like revisiting an old friend.

It must have been hard for Ledger to step out of Jack Nicholson's Joker shadow from Tim Burton's 1989 version of Batman.

His was much more caricature than Ledger’s semi-realistic, though equally over-the-top interpretation.

Heath doesn’t eat the scenery, he merges with it.

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There’s no doubt that the screen comes alive when Ledger appears. Of course, there are earie moments like when The Joker talks about death, particularly the image of this clown faced actor wielding a gun and pointing it at himself.

It's a dark epic, but thankfully, there are some moments of comic relief. For example, among his many costumes changes, who knew Ledger could look so good as a redhead in a nurse’s uniform?

The main thrust of the story is all about the ultimate dysfunctional relationship – the dance between Batman and the Joker. Batman doesn’t compromise and neither does The Joker. He is a villain who is not looking for money or rewards, this monster exists in evil for the pure joy of it. That makes for a formidable foe.

In this summer infested super hero season (or in some cases, simply men clad in colourful spandex), The Dark Knight is in another league to its contemporaries like The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Hancock and Speed Racer.

The legacy of Batman, conceived by DC Comics, has never relied on bland, black and white characters. Batman isn’t endowed with super powers, and is presented as a complex and multi-leveled character.

Like real life, he doesn’t always get the girl, and he doesn’t always win the fight.

This incarnation of Batman is bigger and better than Batman Begins. It’s arguably a superior movie and Ledger has created an iconic villain in The Joker which has garnered much talk of a posthumous Oscar win for the Australian-born actor.

Ledger has upped the ante for much loved and revered Hollywood villains, and whether or not he wins an Academy Award, his performance will be forever remembered in celluloid history.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1365223.ece

Wonder Pigeon · 2nd July 2008, 17:16

Can we wait until we get a review from a competent journalist?

Wonder Pigeon · 2nd July 2008, 17:17

"realistic but over the top"

Garethw · 2nd July 2008, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Wonder Pigeon

Can we wait until we get a review from a competent journalist?

Dude every review that i have read so far has given this movie two thumbs up.

I really can't wait to see this.

Alex · 2nd July 2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Wonder Pigeon

Can we wait until we get a review from a competent journalist?

Ledger's performance seems to have more than impressed

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html

IBleedRed · 2nd July 2008, 18:47

19 days now or something like that

101 · 2nd July 2008, 19:51

It's nearly cock-out time.

IBleedRed · 2nd July 2008, 19:52

Its gonna be out on imax near me too

Count Duckula · 2nd July 2008, 20:01

Ledger's going to win the Oscar for best actor based purely on the fact that he's dead. Kind of like Imagine always being voted the best song ever only due to Lennon dying not long after. Great song, just like it's probably a great performance, but not the best.

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Ledger's going to win the Oscar for best actor based purely on the fact that he's dead. Kind of like Imagine always being voted the best song ever only due to Lennon dying not long after. Great song, just like it's probably a great performance, but not the best.

Sorry Count but that's bullshit, and disrespectful too. For one, you haven't seen his performance yet so you are in no position to judge it's Oscar credentials, and two, a postumous Oscar has only been given out once in 1976's 'Network' for Peter Finch, so it would seem that they do not like giving them out to dead people, so if he does win it, it will be purely on merit, nothing more.

Rant over.

Count Duckula · 2nd July 2008, 20:44

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Sorry Count but that's bullshit, and disrespectful too. For one, you haven't seen his performance yet so you are in no position to judge it's Oscar credentials, and two, a postumous Oscar has only been given out once in 1976's 'Network' for Peter Finch, so it would seem that they do not like giving them out to dead people, so if he does win it, it will be purely on merit, nothing more.

Rant over.

Frankly I don't give a fuck whether it's disrespectful or not. He died of a drug overdose, leaving a young daughter behind; someone like that isn't deserving of my respect.

And surely you can see that the people as a whole tend to buy into this sentimentalism. The fact that he's died will certainly work in his favour.

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Frankly I don't give a fuck whether it's disrespectful or not. He died of a drug overdose, leaving a young daughter behind; someone like that isn't deserving of my respect.

And surely you can see that the people as a whole tend to buy into this sentimentalism. The fact that he's died will certainly work in his favour.

And you have now capped off your bullshit cake with a bullshit cherry on the top.

kristinson · 2nd July 2008, 20:47

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Sorry Count but that's bullshit, and disrespectful too. For one, you haven't seen his performance yet so you are in no position to judge it's Oscar credentials, and two, a postumous Oscar has only been given out once in 1976's 'Network' for Peter Finch, so it would seem that they do not like giving them out to dead people, so if he does win it, it will be purely on merit, nothing more.

Rant over.

I agree with that Red nome, I was so looking forward to this movie for so long, but I must say leadgers death is going to to make this harder to watch, it just put a sour note to everything.

I also dont think that the movie will be Oscar worthy in anyway, except for maybe an effects nod or something like that, these type of movies i.e coimic related/superhero, historically fail to get any major nod, hence why they are released in the summer.

kristinson · 2nd July 2008, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Frankly I don't give a fuck whether it's disrespectful or not. He died of a drug overdose, leaving a young daughter behind; someone like that isn't deserving of my respect.

And surely you can see that the people as a whole tend to buy into this sentimentalism. The fact that he's died will certainly work in his favour.

Was his death not ruled as an accidental overdose?

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 20:51

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Originally Posted by kristinson

I agree with that Count, I was so looking forward to this movie for so long, but I must say leadgers death is going to to make this harder to watch, it just put a sour note to everything.

I also dont think that the movie will be Oscar worthy in anyway, except for maybe an effects nod or something like that, these type of movies i.e coimic related/superhero, historically fail to get any major nod, hence why they are released in the summer.

So why are you quoting me?

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 20:52

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Originally Posted by kristinson

Was his death not ruled as an accidental overdose?

Yes, but that won't be enough for some holier than thou people round here.

kristinson · 2nd July 2008, 20:54

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Originally Posted by RedNome

So why are you quoting me?

I agree with you quote hence I quoted it pal, I was assuming your quote would be read and then mine would be a follow on

I thought my general reply gave that away

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 20:57

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Originally Posted by kristinson

I agree with you quote hence I quoted it pal, I was assuming your quote would be read and then mine would be a follow on

I thought my general reply gave that away

Then why the "I agree with that Count" remark?

Confusing to say the least my friend.

Count Duckula · 2nd July 2008, 20:58

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Originally Posted by kristinson

Was his death not ruled as an accidental overdose?

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Yes, but that won't be enough for some holier than thou people round here.

I never said it was suicide

Jimmy Hendrix's death was accidental overdose. So was River Phoenix's. Doesn't mean it wasn't totally self-inflicted.

kristinson · 2nd July 2008, 20:58

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Then why the "I agree with that Count" remark?

Confusing to say the least my friend.

yes confusing il edit it now,

"that" referred to your statement

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

I never said it was suicide

Jimmy Hendrix's death was accidental overdose. So was River Phoenix's. Doesn't mean it wasn't totally self-inflicted.

So what if it was, who are you to judge, is your life so perfect?

Count Duckula · 2nd July 2008, 21:10

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Originally Posted by RedNome

So what if it was, who are you to judge, is your life so perfect?

Not at all, but I'm not going to show him any great "respect" either. I wouldn't expect people to fawn over me if I took too many sleeping pills and died either.

RedNome · 2nd July 2008, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Not at all, but I'm not going to show him any great "respect" either. I wouldn't expect people to fawn over me if I took too many sleeping pills and died either.

Whatever Count, we'll have to agree to disagree here otherwise we'll end

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Garethw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England; The home of James Bond, Fish and chips and Chavs! Posts: 2,187	Review from the SUN Newspaper! BATMAN's return to cinemas in The Dark Knight was always going to be the must-see superhero movie of the year. And we've had a sneak peek at the eagerly-awaited flick, which was cast further into the spotlight following the untimely death of Heath Ledger, who plays the Joker. Now here's our verdict on this summer's biggest blockbuster. BATMAN is back and fans can breathe a sigh of relief. The hotly anticipated sequel to 2005's Batman Begins sees Christian Bale reprises his role as the Caped Crusader/Bruce Wayne but this film is all about one man, and that's Heath Ledger. His electrifying performance as The Joker serves up the most menacing, villainous appearance on screen since Hannibal Lecter. Heath steals the movie, which opens with a bank robbery that sets in motion the criminal rampage of his character. He may look like Marilyn Manson on steroids but he is clearly in control of the heinous plans leaving Gotham City in need of a hero. The modern-style story mirrors The Joker against a 21st century terrorist, rather than an average comic book villain. He despises society and it's so-called morality, and knows creating chaos and destruction is the only thing he can rely on. Bruce Wayne meanwhile, as well as Batman, has matured. But he is still in conflict with his double life, hoping one day that Batman will become obsolete. His struggle shows that what is good for Batman is not necessarily good for Bruce Wayne and is desperate for Gotham's criminal-bashing District Attorney Harvey Dent to be recognised by the people of Gotham as their real hero. But as the The Joker begins a cat and mouse game to make Batman break his "no killing" rule, things hot up. Bale is most definitely the actor most like the original comic book hero compared to former rubber clad stars Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer and George Clooney. He plays it with a understated realism unlike his generic Hollywood predecessors and although his character isn’t always likeable, he gives the impression of being a human being, albeit a playboy millionaire. He also has the futuristic gadgets of a James Bond character, and an array of fast cars and motorcycles. And he needs them. In Gotham these days, there are numerous gangs to contend with as well as the main crime syndicate heads. The film was shot in Chicago and this two and a half hour sequel features spectacular aerial shots with the upper and lower roadways used for some pretty hairy, dynamic car chases, including one ill fated 18 wheeler. Bale was able to do most of the fight scenes himself and didn’t have to rely on special effects as much as he did previously. He bulked up for the role, and like for his previous characters – from The Machinist in which he lost 60 pounds, to buffing up for American Psycho - he is no stranger to shape shifting his form for the sake of cinema accuracy. The transition of Harvey Dent to evil Two Face is probably the most interesting aspect of the story. Aaron Eckhart’s performance is both moving and fearful. And the subplot ‘love triangle’ between him, Bruce Wayne and Bruce's girlfriend Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal) adds some emotional weight. Gyllenhaal, as always, is authentic and even more pronounced when considering the lacklustre performance from Katie Holmes in the same role in Batman Begins. Gary Oldman is a treat as Commissioner Gordon but Oscar winner Morgan Freeman's role as Lucius Fox is a little superfluous. Michael Caine's reassuring and welcoming presence though as Alfred The Butler is like revisiting an old friend. It must have been hard for Ledger to step out of Jack Nicholson's Joker shadow from Tim Burton's 1989 version of Batman. His was much more caricature than Ledger’s semi-realistic, though equally over-the-top interpretation. Heath doesn’t eat the scenery, he merges with it. Advertisement There’s no doubt that the screen comes alive when Ledger appears. Of course, there are earie moments like when The Joker talks about death, particularly the image of this clown faced actor wielding a gun and pointing it at himself. It's a dark epic, but thankfully, there are some moments of comic relief. For example, among his many costumes changes, who knew Ledger could look so good as a redhead in a nurse’s uniform? The main thrust of the story is all about the ultimate dysfunctional relationship – the dance between Batman and the Joker. Batman doesn’t compromise and neither does The Joker. He is a villain who is not looking for money or rewards, this monster exists in evil for the pure joy of it. That makes for a formidable foe. In this summer infested super hero season (or in some cases, simply men clad in colourful spandex), The Dark Knight is in another league to its contemporaries like The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Hancock and Speed Racer. The legacy of Batman, conceived by DC Comics, has never relied on bland, black and white characters. Batman isn’t endowed with super powers, and is presented as a complex and multi-leveled character. Like real life, he doesn’t always get the girl, and he doesn’t always win the fight. This incarnation of Batman is bigger and better than Batman Begins. It’s arguably a superior movie and Ledger has created an iconic villain in The Joker which has garnered much talk of a posthumous Oscar win for the Australian-born actor. Ledger has upped the ante for much loved and revered Hollywood villains, and whether or not he wins an Academy Award, his performance will be forever remembered in celluloid history. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1365223.ece

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