'Dark Souls', Formerly known as Project Dark

Lance Uppercut · 21st November 2011, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Woodzy

Well while my PC and as a result, Skyrim, are out of action, I finally got around to playing Demon's Souls properly (thought i'd save bumping the old thread and just use this.)

I have to say, it is really fantastic. I spent 3 whole hours just trying to make it past 1 - 1 but never really got frustrated either. To be fair, I did try and try to defeat the Red Knight a few times only to fail miserably, and then try and evade him only to find the gate behind him locked.

My only real gripe is that the stats are quite a lot to get your head around. As soon as I finished 1 - 1 I switched it off for the day as I really couldn't be bothered with improving my character. Any tips on what I should begin working on would be great.

As a first timer, I would improve your ranged attacks. Though you didn't mention what class you are? I normally focus on strength, dexterity, and vitality. Also, make a point of finding the Dragon long sword on 2-2. It will make things a lot easier for you.

CC, you'll be fine.

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 08:55

Christ almighty this is sadistic.

I must have gone from the bonfire on the bridge, all the way up and around to the Taurus Demon about half a dozen times last night.

2 swipes and I'm dead. Every time. I wouldn't mind but there's zero time to down one of those flasks after the first hit so basically if he gets me once I'm toast.

Lost 3000 souls on one run.

Couldn't stop playing though. I'll have him tonight.

Woodzy · 22nd November 2011, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

As a first timer, I would improve your ranged attacks. Though you didn't mention what class you are? I normally focus on strength, dexterity, and vitality. Also, make a point of finding the Dragon long sword on 2-2. It will make things a lot easier for you.

CC, you'll be fine.

I'm a knight. I heard the Royal was the ideal choice for a newcomer but I couldn't resist the temptations of a bad ass knight. I am more fond of close combat also. Although would I be right in saying its only 1 - 1 that the Royal is beneficial for?

I love the messages that get left, although I am sometimes a bit weary of the ones that read "you're safe here" and "drop down here."

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 09:48

Yeah, I've found those messages to be mostly helpful so far.

Also, what's the craic with these ghostly apparitions that appear and look like they're fighting someone? Is that an echo of me before I died or someone else?

Red_Aaron · 22nd November 2011, 09:56

the ghostlies are other folk that have died there, if you touch their blood stain it shows you how they met their fate, i find them most useful when it comes to judging ledges, if you see the ghost fall to his death its fairly safe to say you cant drop down there!

there's an easy-ish way to beat taurus if you want it

Spoiler

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 10:03

Ah.

Spoiler

Also, should I have met a merchant yet? I wanted to buy a bow but haven't come across anyone selling any.

Red_Aaron · 22nd November 2011, 10:07

the first merchant is just by the first burg bonfire. from the bonfire head right, taking out all the enemies and on your left is a small section with 2 spear guards, be very wary of them at low levels they hit very hard, be sure to pull them one at a time. after taking them out roll through the boxes on the left of the area, a staircase is under them which leads down to the merchant. be wary of an ambush too!

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 10:19

Cheers. I have missed it then.

Lance Uppercut · 22nd November 2011, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Woodzy

I'm a knight. I heard the Royal was the ideal choice for a newcomer but I couldn't resist the temptations of a bad ass knight. I am more fond of close combat also. Although would I be right in saying its only 1 - 1 that the Royal is beneficial for?

I love the messages that get left, although I am sometimes a bit weary of the ones that read "you're safe here" and "drop down here."

No, the Royal is beneficial on every level. You start with the Soul Arrow.

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Also, what's the craic with these ghostly apparitions that appear and look like they're fighting someone? Is that an echo of me before I died or someone else?

Those apparitions are other people who are playing the game at the same time as you. You are seeing a brief glimpse of what they are doing.

As Aaron says, though, if you click on a bloodstain, you will see how the person who left it there died.

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

No, the Royal is beneficial on every level. You start with the Soul Arrow.

Those apparitions are other people who are playing the game at the same time as you. You are seeing a brief glimpse of what they are doing.

As Aaron says, though, if you click on a bloodstain, you will see how the person who left it there died.

That's pretty cool.

I didn't want to touch the bloodstains as I'd heard about people coming in to your game and kicking your arse. Thought it might be something to do with that.

Lance Uppercut · 22nd November 2011, 11:41

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Originally Posted by CassiusClaymore

That's pretty cool.

I didn't want to touch the bloodstains as I'd heard about people coming in to your game and kicking your arse. Thought it might be something to do with that.

You won't have to worry about that for a while. It is seriously annoying, though.

You know you can summon other players into your game to help you out? Makes some boss battles a walk in the park.

CassiusClaymore · 22nd November 2011, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

You won't have to worry about that for a while. It is seriously annoying, though.

You know you can summon other players into your game to help you out? Makes some boss battles a walk in the park.

How does one do this Lance?

Also, in the spiral staircase that goes up to the bridge with the Taurus Demon, I opened a door and went down stairs and some cnut with a big fuck off club chased me all the way up and beat the shit out of me. What's his problem?

Lance Uppercut · 22nd November 2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by CassiusClaymore

How does one do this Lance?

Also, in the spiral staircase that goes up to the bridge with the Taurus Demon, I opened a door and went down stairs and some cnut with a big fuck off club chased me all the way up and beat the shit out of me. What's his problem?

That's dildo boy. He has a very bad temper and is best avoided at this stage.

To summon other players into your world you have to be in human form. Look around for a white sign on the ground and select OK to summon help. These signs don't appear if you are hollow. Look for them on the ground near bonfires and in front of the gray fog boss gates. This is where people will most likely place them.

CassiusClaymore · 23rd November 2011, 11:37

I'm all Drake sworded up now and ready to rock. I just need a decent shield to complement it. Haven't upgraded my rags yet either.

Is the best policy in this just to drop all the crap you pick up off dead scum as you go along?

Red_Aaron · 23rd November 2011, 12:11

Hollow Soldier Sheild is the best starting shield i found, unless you get a black knight one drop.

Get a bottomless box from the undead merchant, its pricey early on but well worth it for storing excess gear, there's not a great deal of point in keeping a lot of the crap as you cant sell it on until late in the game and the rewards are somewhat paltry, try to keep at least one piece of everything though

i've never bothered upgrading armor, its certainly not worth the cost on your first playthrough, improve your weapons instead

CassiusClaymore · 23rd November 2011, 12:26

Cheers Aaron. I will look at investing in said box.

I might also take on that Black Knight in the Undead Berg too. I assume he can't climb ladders?

Lance Uppercut · 23rd November 2011, 12:36

I always upgrade my armour. By the way, there is no limit to what you can carry.

Red_Aaron · 23rd November 2011, 12:52

yeah, the box is only for inventory management really but i found it useful for keeping your menu decluttered

once i got the gold hemmed armor set i never bothered with any others, i only use light stuff generally plus i've a really good shield

fairly sure the BKs can climb ladders!

CassiusClaymore · 23rd November 2011, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Red_Aaron

yeah, the box is only for inventory management really but i found it useful for keeping your menu decluttered

once i got the gold hemmed armor set i never bothered with any others, i only use light stuff generally plus i've a really good shield

fairly sure the BKs can climb ladders!

Oh FFS. Notice how Lance didn't say anything about that? Sadistic bastard.

Lance Uppercut · 23rd November 2011, 13:09

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Originally Posted by CassiusClaymore

Oh FFS. Notice how Lance didn't say anything about that? Sadistic bastard.

Pfffffftttttt. A real man will have him dead before he gets anywhere near that ladder.

Lance Uppercut · 11th January 2012, 11:27

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Japanese developer From Software is prepping DLC for its critically acclaimed RPG Dark Souls.

That's according to EGM, which says it could be released in the first quarter of 2012.

It points out that From Software trademarked 'Yami no Mori' last year, which translates to 'Forest of Darkness'. Sounds like the kind of place that would fit perfectly into the Dark Souls universe.

From Software's previous title, Demon's Souls, didn't receive any post-release support from the developer, but we're hopeful its spiritual successor will.

The brutally difficult action RPG shipped 1.5 million copies worldwide in its first month, and managed to outsell Sony's Ico and Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection 3:1 on release, suggesting that DLC could be a worthwhile endeavour.

46,000 consumers have signed a petition requesting that publishing Namco Bandai release Dark Souls for PC.

CVG

Here's hoping.

Xander45 · 11th January 2012, 11:35

I'll have some of that.

Lance Uppercut · 11th January 2012, 11:43

I think there was supposed to be DLC for Demon's Souls. There are 5 Archstones and a 6th broken one, which was never used, in the end.

For some reason they never went ahead with it.

downxandxout · 11th January 2012, 14:55

Just found this for 16.98 delivered and thought I'd treat myself.

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CassiusClaymore · 11th January 2012, 15:33

I wouldn't exactly call it a treat. Torture yourself is more like it.

Great game though.

CassiusClaymore · 24th February 2012, 09:00

I've just got back into this lately and carried on from where I left it (getting hammered by the Bell Tower Gargoyles).

Since then I've beaten both of those clowns, dildo boy, butterfly bitch, sexy spider lady, toothy dragon, fire demon and minotaur boy.

I'm a bad ass samurai/pyro with a level 10 katana, level 11 pyro and a cool horned helmet. Oh and I've got that ring that let's you do flips and stuff.

Great game.

Just entered this Indiana Jones style temple last night guarded by snake people and booby traps. Looks tough.

Randall Flagg · 24th February 2012, 09:49

I simply cannot get into this game. I got it on the day of release

I need to start again.

CassiusClaymore · 24th February 2012, 09:54

It's worth perservering with imo.

When you've levelled up a bit and got some cool gear it will click.

Like I said, I struggled with it at first and left it for a few weeks but I can see why it's so highly rated now. The way the world links together is an amazing achievement really.

Red_Aaron · 24th February 2012, 11:31

i've just brought demons' off ebay and will be starting that again tonight

the plan is barbarian right from the off and i'll go toe to toe with the bosses - no cheap methods allowed

kps88 · 24th February 2012, 11:33

Thinking of starting this soon. Are people still active online? I played Demon Souls much later on and it seemed like no one was playing. I never managed to summon any help or get invaded.

CassiusClaymore · 24th February 2012, 11:46

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Originally Posted by kps88

Thinking of starting this soon. Are people still active online? I played Demon Souls much later on and it seemed like no one was playing. I never managed to summon any help or get invaded.

Yeah. Some fucker had me in Blight town the other night.

I thought he was coming in to help me beat the boss after we respectfully bowed to each other but then the little shit stabbed me in the back when I went up a ladder.

ACEtheORIGINAL · 19th March 2012, 10:29

Picked this up the other day £20 for the limited edition. Started it with all the talk of how hard it was in mind. Spent 15 mins battling the asylum demon with the sword hilt before realising there was a tunnel! I was playing thinking people weren't kinding this is solid and its only the first guy.

CassiusClaymore · 21st March 2012, 13:30

It gets easier as you level up. I finished it last night and was at level 100. The last few bosses didn't stand a chance.

Hands down one of the best games I've ever played. One thing I overlooked was the soundtrack which is an incredible piece of work. Only really paid close attention when this started up during the final fight...

I expected another big operatic piece with chanting and the full works but when this kicked in it really jarred. Very melancholic.

This one was creepy as hell too...

ACEtheORIGINAL · 21st March 2012, 18:32

Really enjoying it at the moment, no matter how much I die. Spent time exploring the fire link place got slaughtered by skeletons then went to the unread burg or what ever its called. It's so in unforgiving. I was farming souls last night an talked to the guy behind the bars and pressed circle to many times an fell off the cliff. Had to go all the way back to the bonfire. What are the guilds for?

CassiusClaymore · 21st March 2012, 18:53

The covenants?

Most of them are based around the online aspect but there are some cool little benefits to joining certain ones (weapons, shortcuts etc...) . I joined about 6 different ones in my play through.

izzydiggler · 21st March 2012, 19:10

I got to the sewers months ago buy thought I'd give it rest and play when 'focused'.....incredible game but there's nothing at all casual about it. Need to get back into it - maybe after Mass Effect 3.

ACEtheORIGINAL · 22nd March 2012, 19:38

Just encountered the Taurus demon. Now am.back at the same bonfire I've been battling from for the last hour!

Edit: then got killed by a low level axe man and lost all my souls on they way back for them!

CassiusClaymore · 23rd March 2012, 08:42

Mwuhahahaha.

You can open up a shortcut to that bonfire not long after you beat the Taurus demon.

Try the dropping attack from the tower behind you.

ACEtheORIGINAL · 23rd March 2012, 10:17

Ye i did that got quite abit of health off him. I chose that route after getting smashed by a big knight type creature or the dwarf looking type thing with the club at the bottom of the tower.

CassiusClaymore · 23rd March 2012, 10:19

When you've eventually got the skills to beat the club guy (Havel) he drops a very useful ring.

22nd November 2011, 09:56	#525 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 1,852	the ghostlies are other folk that have died there, if you touch their blood stain it shows you how they met their fate, i find them most useful when it comes to judging ledges, if you see the ghost fall to his death its fairly safe to say you cant drop down there! there's an easy-ish way to beat taurus if you want it Spoiler as soon as you enter the bridge turn back and go up the ladder, take out the skeletons. go back down and engage taurus, immediately turn around and sprint back to the ladder, when at the top perform a dropping attack on him for good damage, sprint away to lure him away from the ladder, dodge around him rinse and repeat. be quick climbing the ladder as he can hit you on it

22nd November 2011, 10:03	#526 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Ah. Spoiler I've done that ladder drop but I've not been able to get up for a second attack. Like I said, that 1st swipe is all but enough to fcuk me over. Also, should I have met a merchant yet? I wanted to buy a bow but haven't come across anyone selling any.

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22nd November 2011, 08:55	#522 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Christ almighty this is sadistic. I must have gone from the bonfire on the bridge, all the way up and around to the Taurus Demon about half a dozen times last night. 2 swipes and I'm dead. Every time. I wouldn't mind but there's zero time to down one of those flasks after the first hit so basically if he gets me once I'm toast. Lost 3000 souls on one run. Couldn't stop playing though. I'll have him tonight.

22nd November 2011, 09:48	#524 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Yeah, I've found those messages to be mostly helpful so far. Also, what's the craic with these ghostly apparitions that appear and look like they're fighting someone? Is that an echo of me before I died or someone else?

22nd November 2011, 10:07	#527 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 1,852	the first merchant is just by the first burg bonfire. from the bonfire head right, taking out all the enemies and on your left is a small section with 2 spear guards, be very wary of them at low levels they hit very hard, be sure to pull them one at a time. after taking them out roll through the boxes on the left of the area, a staircase is under them which leads down to the merchant. be wary of an ambush too!

22nd November 2011, 10:19	#528 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Cheers. I have missed it then.

23rd November 2011, 11:37	#534 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	I'm all Drake sworded up now and ready to rock. I just need a decent shield to complement it. Haven't upgraded my rags yet either. Is the best policy in this just to drop all the crap you pick up off dead scum as you go along?

23rd November 2011, 12:11	#535 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 1,852	Hollow Soldier Sheild is the best starting shield i found, unless you get a black knight one drop. Get a bottomless box from the undead merchant, its pricey early on but well worth it for storing excess gear, there's not a great deal of point in keeping a lot of the crap as you cant sell it on until late in the game and the rewards are somewhat paltry, try to keep at least one piece of everything though i've never bothered upgrading armor, its certainly not worth the cost on your first playthrough, improve your weapons instead

23rd November 2011, 12:26	#536 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Cheers Aaron. I will look at investing in said box. I might also take on that Black Knight in the Undead Berg too. I assume he can't climb ladders?

23rd November 2011, 12:36	#537 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	I always upgrade my armour. By the way, there is no limit to what you can carry.

23rd November 2011, 12:52	#538 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 1,852	yeah, the box is only for inventory management really but i found it useful for keeping your menu decluttered once i got the gold hemmed armor set i never bothered with any others, i only use light stuff generally plus i've a really good shield fairly sure the BKs can climb ladders!

11th January 2012, 11:35	#542 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 18,106	I'll have some of that.

11th January 2012, 11:43	#543 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	I think there was supposed to be DLC for Demon's Souls. There are 5 Archstones and a 6th broken one, which was never used, in the end. For some reason they never went ahead with it.

11th January 2012, 14:55	#544 (permalink)
downxandxout Supports Manc...ini Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Salford, Manchester. Posts: 2,332	Just found this for 16.98 delivered and thought I'd treat myself. Dark Souls Xbox 360 - Sendit.com Dark Souls PS3 - Sendit.com

11th January 2012, 15:33	#545 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	I wouldn't exactly call it a treat. Torture yourself is more like it. Great game though.

24th February 2012, 09:00	#546 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	I've just got back into this lately and carried on from where I left it (getting hammered by the Bell Tower Gargoyles). Since then I've beaten both of those clowns, dildo boy, butterfly bitch, sexy spider lady, toothy dragon, fire demon and minotaur boy. I'm a bad ass samurai/pyro with a level 10 katana, level 11 pyro and a cool horned helmet. Oh and I've got that ring that let's you do flips and stuff. Great game. Just entered this Indiana Jones style temple last night guarded by snake people and booby traps. Looks tough.

24th February 2012, 09:49	#547 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,676	I simply cannot get into this game. I got it on the day of release I need to start again.

24th February 2012, 09:54	#548 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	It's worth perservering with imo. When you've levelled up a bit and got some cool gear it will click. Like I said, I struggled with it at first and left it for a few weeks but I can see why it's so highly rated now. The way the world links together is an amazing achievement really.

24th February 2012, 11:31	#549 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 1,852	i've just brought demons' off ebay and will be starting that again tonight the plan is barbarian right from the off and i'll go toe to toe with the bosses - no cheap methods allowed

24th February 2012, 11:33	#550 (permalink)
kps88 First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coventry (SM) Posts: 8,705	Thinking of starting this soon. Are people still active online? I played Demon Souls much later on and it seemed like no one was playing. I never managed to summon any help or get invaded.

19th March 2012, 10:29	#552 (permalink)
ACEtheORIGINAL Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,698	Picked this up the other day £20 for the limited edition. Started it with all the talk of how hard it was in mind. Spent 15 mins battling the asylum demon with the sword hilt before realising there was a tunnel! I was playing thinking people weren't kinding this is solid and its only the first guy.

21st March 2012, 13:30	#553 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	It gets easier as you level up. I finished it last night and was at level 100. The last few bosses didn't stand a chance. Hands down one of the best games I've ever played. One thing I overlooked was the soundtrack which is an incredible piece of work. Only really paid close attention when this started up during the final fight... I expected another big operatic piece with chanting and the full works but when this kicked in it really jarred. Very melancholic. This one was creepy as hell too...

21st March 2012, 18:32	#554 (permalink)
ACEtheORIGINAL Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,698	Really enjoying it at the moment, no matter how much I die. Spent time exploring the fire link place got slaughtered by skeletons then went to the unread burg or what ever its called. It's so in unforgiving. I was farming souls last night an talked to the guy behind the bars and pressed circle to many times an fell off the cliff. Had to go all the way back to the bonfire. What are the guilds for?

21st March 2012, 18:53	#555 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	The covenants? Most of them are based around the online aspect but there are some cool little benefits to joining certain ones (weapons, shortcuts etc...) . I joined about 6 different ones in my play through.

21st March 2012, 19:10	#556 (permalink)
izzydiggler Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Outside Balague's bedroom door wearing a Michael Myers mask Posts: 1,503	I got to the sewers months ago buy thought I'd give it rest and play when 'focused'.....incredible game but there's nothing at all casual about it. Need to get back into it - maybe after Mass Effect 3.

22nd March 2012, 19:38	#557 (permalink)
ACEtheORIGINAL Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,698	Just encountered the Taurus demon. Now am.back at the same bonfire I've been battling from for the last hour! Edit: then got killed by a low level axe man and lost all my souls on they way back for them!

23rd March 2012, 08:42	#558 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	Mwuhahahaha. You can open up a shortcut to that bonfire not long after you beat the Taurus demon. Try the dropping attack from the tower behind you.

23rd March 2012, 10:17	#559 (permalink)
ACEtheORIGINAL Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,698	Ye i did that got quite abit of health off him. I chose that route after getting smashed by a big knight type creature or the dwarf looking type thing with the club at the bottom of the tower.

23rd March 2012, 10:19	#560 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 10,401	When you've eventually got the skills to beat the club guy (Havel) he drops a very useful ring.