'Dark Souls', Formerly known as Project Dark

Snow · 5th October 2011, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Xander45

It's a challenge, so many games nowadays hold your hand and guide you through everything step by step or have checkpoints ever 5 steps whereas this (if it's like Demons souls) chucks you in and hopes you can swim.

It's a test of patience, of trial and error in some cases. If you die it's because you did something wrong and it's more than likely going to be very frustrating but hugely rewarding when you actually figure out how to get past a certain point.

It's a game for sadists really, you really need to be a glutton for punishment because you will die, repeatadly. And when you do die you have to start right back at the beginning and try again with all the enemies respawned, it's like reading a book (in welsh) and getting slapped round the head and told to start again from the beginning of the chapter everytime you mispronounce a word.

Or people who grew up with the NES. You only had to play a game like Super Mario Bros. to do that. Nevermind Battletoads.

Lance Uppercut · 5th October 2011, 17:35

Funny, I read an article the other day which said that Dark Souls is really the spiritual successor to the NES Castlevania games.

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 11:07

Received my limited edition this morning.

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 11:57

Class selection.

There doesn't appear to be an obvious first timer choice, like there was in Demon's Souls (Royal). I plumped for the Knight, equipped with a ring which slowly recharges health.

Thief starts with a key that opens all minor locks. Deprived starts with a club, shield, and thong.

WeasteDevil · 6th October 2011, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Xander45

It's a game for sadists really, you really need to be a glutton for punishment because you will die, repeatadly. And when you do die you have to start right back at the beginning and try again with all the enemies respawned, it's like reading a book (in welsh) and getting slapped round the head and told to start again from the beginning of the chapter everytime you mispronounce a word.

I'm interested to see how it will do on XB360.

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 12:45

Jesus fucking christ.

Red_Aaron · 6th October 2011, 12:55

stupid frickin work!

no doubt i'll have to dash to the sorting house to pick it up too

are there any stats recorded in the options Lance?
would be good to be able to clock your deaths per minute

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 13:01

Not sure. I have died three times so far. Twice at the first boss. I then killed him, walked 20 yards forward, hit the wrong button, and jumped backwards off a cliff. What a tool.

Played for about an hour so far.

Bill.s.preston · 6th October 2011, 13:23

This sounds tempting, but Skyrim, Uncharted 3 and skyward sword are on the horizon. I don't think there are enough hours in the day!

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 13:45

Died a few more times at the hands of fucking skeletons. I then found a Morning Star which makes them pretty easy. Still, I have been doing a lot of heroic running away, so far.

Bill.s.preston · 6th October 2011, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Died a few more times at the hands of fucking skeletons. I then found a Morning Star which makes them pretty easy. Still, I have been doing a lot of heroic running away, so far.

Brave Sir Robin who almost fought the vicious Chicken of Bristol.

Xander45 · 6th October 2011, 15:00

Mine arrived this morning, but i won't be able to really give it a proper go tonight as i'm going go karting

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 15:11

This is hard as fuck. One route? Giant skeleton. Another? Ghosts that kill the shit out of me. The next? A rather large armoured knight.

CassiusClaymore · 6th October 2011, 15:16

Man up Lance.

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 15:24

I'm dominating.

Red_Aaron · 6th October 2011, 21:46

Right, an hour or so in now and the deaths are starting to stack up. The skeletons and ghosts are just brutal and they hunt you! You cant even leg it! So I'm going back to the path I started on - up the mountain.

Started as wanderer with witches ring (the apparantly useless description was too tempting to pass up)

It's tough alrite but I'm not wavering yet

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 21:53

You pretty much have no choice but to go up the mountain, to the castle. Any other way equates to death. That said, the castle is a nightmare, too, eventually.

Lance Uppercut · 6th October 2011, 22:33

Earlier I was poisoned (in the same place every time), and had to return to the nearest bonfire to be healed, this is no exaggeration, about 15 times. I will be dreaming about this shit tonight.

izzydiggler · 6th October 2011, 22:58

Should get this in the post tomorrow but out in the evening. I think playing it hungover will be a mistake. Will probably give Rage a go first.

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 16:42

I have made quite a bit of progress. Killed 4 boss demons so far. And still I haven't even scratched the surface.

If there is a better game than this released this year, it will be GOTY.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 18:54

Just started it, chose to be a Pyromancer. Turns out the fireball spell was pretty effective against the big bastard with the club, the only problem was dodging him long enough so it could charge.

Just been very slowly making my way through the cemetery, then a huge skellington appeared and I legged it back to the bonfire. Looking very good so far, those first few skeletons hit me harder than i thought they would too. I can see tactical running away being a major thing for me.

Badunk · 7th October 2011, 18:57

Why make it so that you have to go back to the start every time you die? I thought that shit died out with the Spectrum, ffs.

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Badunk

Why make it so that you have to go back to the start every time you die? I thought that shit died out with the Spectrum, ffs.

Pansy.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 20:12

Bloody dragon bastard.

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 20:21

You went the wrong way.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 20:28

That's the wrong way? Where's the right way?

I wish i could time parries properly, that could be quite useful.

Spoiler

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 20:45

I think we may have mixed up dragons. I am not quite sure which shortcut you have opened.

Badunk · 7th October 2011, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Pansy.

Not a pansy, more like a dandy.

Pre-ordered Batman today. Yeaaaaah buddy!

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badunk

Not a pansy, more like a dandy.

Pre-ordered Batman today. Yeaaaaah buddy!

97% in Gamesmaster.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

I think we may have mixed up dragons. I am not quite sure which shortcut you have opened.

Spoiler

Randall Flagg · 7th October 2011, 21:11

Im liking the review scores of this.

Does it matter if Ive not played the 1st?

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Xander45

Spoiler

You are there already? I thought you just started?

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Randall Fagg

Im liking the review scores of this.

Does it matter if Ive not played the 1st?

No, but it would give you an indication of whether or not you have the temperament for it. It is hard as fuck, extremely unforgiving, and sadistically punishing.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

You are there already? I thought you just started?

That wasn't that far in i thought, i went straight up the stairs to the village after realising the cemetery was too tricky, killed a few goons and was at the bonfire. Then it was only a few more goons until the semi boss which i did alright with (thanks to the writing on the floor i beat him second time round, once i figured out what it meant) and then there's the dragon.

Funnily enough i've died more times at the hands of a pack of three rats than i have anywhere else so far!

About 2 hours in, did you go a different way?

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander45

That wasn't that far in i thought, i went straight up the stairs to the village after realising the cemetery was too tricky, killed a few goons and was at the bonfire. Then it was only a few more goons until the semi boss which i did alright with (thanks to the writing on the floor i beat him second time round once i figured out what it meant) and then there's the dragon.

Funnily enough i've died more times at the hands of a pack of three rats than i have anywhere else so far!

About 2 hours in, did you go a different way?

To start with, yes. I tried the other two ways quite a few times. When I went up to the castle, I explored every bit of it I could find. I guess you missed the first black knight? Did you find the merchant? Those rats are the cunts that poisoned me about 15 times in a row.

By the way:

Spoiler

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

To start with, yes. I tried the other two ways quite a few times. When I went up to the castle, I explored every bit of it I could find. I guess you missed the first black knight? Did you find the merchant? Those rats are the cunts that poisoned me about 15 times in a row.

By the way:

Spoiler

Yeah i found the merchant again thanks to some writing and i killed the dark knight piece of piss, my fire spell did around 100 damage a piece to him so a few of those and down he went.

I don't have a bow or any arrows, might have to get one off said merchant.

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Xander45

Yeah i found the merchant again thanks to some writing and i killed the dark knight piece of piss, my fire spell did around 100 damage a piece to him so a few of those and down he went.

I don't have a bow or any arrows, might have to get one off said merchant.

Try to melee the cunt.

The Knight pick was not the most prudent, in my case.

Xander45 · 7th October 2011, 21:40

I only melee goons, i love the little animation for when you attack someone from behind though. Very satisfying.

CassiusClaymore · 7th October 2011, 21:40

I really want this but can't justify both this and Arkham City in the same month. Can I?

Lance Uppercut · 7th October 2011, 21:44

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Originally Posted by CassiusClaymore

I really want this but can't justify both this and Arkham City in the same month. Can I?

I dare you.

7th October 2011, 20:28	#106 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 20,328	That's the wrong way? Where's the right way? I wish i could time parries properly, that could be quite useful. Spoiler Right i got past him and it opened a shortcut which is useful, now i'm gonna buy the key off the merchant and see if there's anything worth having behind the locked doors.

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5th October 2011, 17:35	#82 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Funny, I read an article the other day which said that Dark Souls is really the spiritual successor to the NES Castlevania games.

6th October 2011, 11:07	#83 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Received my limited edition this morning.

6th October 2011, 11:57	#84 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Class selection. There doesn't appear to be an obvious first timer choice, like there was in Demon's Souls (Royal). I plumped for the Knight, equipped with a ring which slowly recharges health. Thief starts with a key that opens all minor locks. Deprived starts with a club, shield, and thong.

6th October 2011, 12:45	#86 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Jesus fucking christ.

6th October 2011, 12:55	#87 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 2,040	stupid frickin work! no doubt i'll have to dash to the sorting house to pick it up too are there any stats recorded in the options Lance? would be good to be able to clock your deaths per minute

6th October 2011, 13:01	#88 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Not sure. I have died three times so far. Twice at the first boss. I then killed him, walked 20 yards forward, hit the wrong button, and jumped backwards off a cliff. What a tool. Played for about an hour so far.

6th October 2011, 13:23	#89 (permalink)
Bill.s.preston Fluffybunnykins Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Call Of Duty Dog Posts: 11,834	This sounds tempting, but Skyrim, Uncharted 3 and skyward sword are on the horizon. I don't think there are enough hours in the day!

6th October 2011, 13:45	#90 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Died a few more times at the hands of fucking skeletons. I then found a Morning Star which makes them pretty easy. Still, I have been doing a lot of heroic running away, so far.

6th October 2011, 15:00	#92 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 20,328	Mine arrived this morning, but i won't be able to really give it a proper go tonight as i'm going go karting

6th October 2011, 15:11	#93 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	This is hard as fuck. One route? Giant skeleton. Another? Ghosts that kill the shit out of me. The next? A rather large armoured knight.

6th October 2011, 15:16	#94 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 15,098	Man up Lance.

6th October 2011, 15:24	#95 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	I'm dominating.

6th October 2011, 21:46	#96 (permalink)
Red_Aaron Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cowe gonna be chopps Posts: 2,040	Right, an hour or so in now and the deaths are starting to stack up. The skeletons and ghosts are just brutal and they hunt you! You cant even leg it! So I'm going back to the path I started on - up the mountain. Started as wanderer with witches ring (the apparantly useless description was too tempting to pass up) It's tough alrite but I'm not wavering yet

6th October 2011, 21:53	#97 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	You pretty much have no choice but to go up the mountain, to the castle. Any other way equates to death. That said, the castle is a nightmare, too, eventually.

6th October 2011, 22:33	#98 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	Earlier I was poisoned (in the same place every time), and had to return to the nearest bonfire to be healed, this is no exaggeration, about 15 times. I will be dreaming about this shit tonight.

6th October 2011, 22:58	#99 (permalink)
izzydiggler Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Outside Balague's bedroom door wearing a Michael Myers mask Posts: 1,634	Should get this in the post tomorrow but out in the evening. I think playing it hungover will be a mistake. Will probably give Rage a go first.

7th October 2011, 16:42	#100 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	I have made quite a bit of progress. Killed 4 boss demons so far. And still I haven't even scratched the surface. If there is a better game than this released this year, it will be GOTY.

7th October 2011, 18:54	#101 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 20,328	Just started it, chose to be a Pyromancer. Turns out the fireball spell was pretty effective against the big bastard with the club, the only problem was dodging him long enough so it could charge. Just been very slowly making my way through the cemetery, then a huge skellington appeared and I legged it back to the bonfire. Looking very good so far, those first few skeletons hit me harder than i thought they would too. I can see tactical running away being a major thing for me.

7th October 2011, 18:57	#102 (permalink)
Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse Posts: 9,656	Why make it so that you have to go back to the start every time you die? I thought that shit died out with the Spectrum, ffs.

7th October 2011, 20:12	#104 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 20,328	Bloody dragon bastard.

7th October 2011, 20:21	#105 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	You went the wrong way.

7th October 2011, 20:45	#107 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,808	I think we may have mixed up dragons. I am not quite sure which shortcut you have opened.

7th October 2011, 21:11	#111 (permalink)
Randall Flagg shitline Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,901	Im liking the review scores of this. Does it matter if Ive not played the 1st?

7th October 2011, 21:40	#118 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 20,328	I only melee goons, i love the little animation for when you attack someone from behind though. Very satisfying.

7th October 2011, 21:40	#119 (permalink)
CassiusClaymore First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo Posts: 15,098	I really want this but can't justify both this and Arkham City in the same month. Can I?