I'm tempted to get an Elite

esmufc10 · 13th November 2009, 13:41

You know, those loud black boxes, with Modern Warfare 2 and Forza 3 for £199.99. Now I'm not a fan of Forza, but I could always trade that in if I wanted. But I'm going to be paying £45 for MW2 anyway so for an extra £150 I can get the console. Plus I want to play Mass Effect as I've heard good things.

What say you?

El B · 13th November 2009, 13:44

Mass Effect is brilliant. Its kicking about for 8quid pre-owned now, and the new one is out in February. The sequel looks amazing so far. If you can afford it why the hell not. I've a 360, but im tempted to buy a PS3 for MGS4 and Killzone 2.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 13:49

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Originally Posted by esmufc09

What say you?

This is filthy talk!

esmufc10 · 13th November 2009, 13:57

I think it's a good deal Weatie.

Plus there are a few other 360 exclusives I'd like to play.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 14:01

Off topic, but I was just looking on play.com, and they have new ones of my model going at 700 quid. Good god!

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 14:01

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Originally Posted by esmufc09

I think it's a good deal Weatie.

Plus there are a few other 360 exclusives I'd like to play.

Don't mod it!

esmufc10 · 13th November 2009, 14:03

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Off topic, but I was just looking on play.com, and they have new ones of my model going at 700 quid. Good god!

60GB PS3's?

Oooo, interesting.

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Don't mod it!

I wouldn't. I can't even play online anyway.

gaffs · 13th November 2009, 14:06

I read this on the front page i and thought maybe the World has stopped turning....

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 14:10

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I read this on the front page i and thought maybe the World has stopped turning....

I have no objections to doing so in principle.

gaffs · 13th November 2009, 14:27

I was thinking about getting one as i want to play Gears of War, Halo 3, the GTA DLC, Lips and Natal.

Dont worry, I was joking about the last two!!!

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 15:01

Now that you mention Natal, I have a conspiracy theory.

When Natal appears, I am expecting Microsoft to do something similar to what Nintendo has done with the DSs and Sony has done with the PSP - hell, Nintendo has done it with the Wii, in that, I expect a totally new XBox (at least from the design perspective) model with a new name (it will not be called 360). It will also have Natal built in. How far they then go to expanding its capabilities I could not guess, but it would not surprise me if they added extra RAM, GPU bandwidth, etc. The same game will run on both the new machine and the old machine, but you will be able to expect higher performance and possibly extra features on the XBOX N3.

They are due a serious hardware revision in any case, as in the PS3 Slim, and I think that it will all be done at the time Natal is launched.

narnar · 13th November 2009, 15:04

It's worth it to play Mass Effect, and also Fable 2.

Christofaux · 13th November 2009, 15:47

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Now that you mention Natal, I have a conspiracy theory.

When Natal appears, I am expecting Microsoft to do something similar to what Nintendo has done with the DSs and Sony has done with the PSP - hell, Nintendo has done it with the Wii, in that, I expect a totally new XBox (at least from the design perspective) model with a new name (it will not be called 360). It will also have Natal built in. How far they then go to expanding its capabilities I could not guess, but it would not surprise me if they added extra RAM, GPU bandwidth, etc. The same game will run on both the new machine and the old machine, but you will be able to expect higher performance and possibly extra features on the XBOX N3.

They are due a serious hardware revision in any case, as in the PS3 Slim, and I think that it will all be done at the time Natal is launched.

This is a good shout, it will be called the 360n or something like that.

Xander45 · 13th November 2009, 15:52

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Originally Posted by narnar

It's worth it to play Mass Effect, and also Fable 2.

Lost Odyssey is another cracker, very much in the Final Fantasy mould and very well done. Star Ocean as well, the voice acting for a few of the characters is awful (mainly the female characters, kay?) but it's a very enjoyable RPG with a button bashing battle system that was simple yet fun.

Just looking it seems the majority of their exclusives are RPG's, Inifinite Undiscovery might be one to avoid though. I played through a ways and it wasn't that great.

Olly · 13th November 2009, 15:54

I got one a few days ago

Spammy · 13th November 2009, 15:54

Xbox is for teenagers.

AdZzUtd · 13th November 2009, 16:05

Playstation 3, Elvis, I'll say no more.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Xander45

Lost Odyssey is another cracker, very much in the Final Fantasy mould and very well done. Star Ocean as well, the voice acting for a few of the characters is awful (mainly the female characters, kay?) but it's a very enjoyable RPG with a button bashing battle system that was simple yet fun.

Just looking it seems the majority of their exclusives are RPG's, Inifinite Undiscovery might be one to avoid though. I played through a ways and it wasn't that great.

Star Ocean isn't an exclusive any more, it's coming out for PS3 in Feb. Mass Effect you can play on the PC.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 16:15

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Originally Posted by AdZzUtd

Playstation 3, Elvis, I'll say no more.

He already has one!

PJ · 13th November 2009, 16:18

If you do, buy fable 2, or your new acquisition is pointless.

MclarenMP4 · 13th November 2009, 16:21

You can get the same deal with Game but they were doing COD MW2 and Fifa 10 rather than Forza 3.
I went with the Forza 3 deal becuase it has a higher trading in value.

gaffs · 13th November 2009, 16:23

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Now that you mention Natal, I have a conspiracy theory.

When Natal appears, I am expecting Microsoft to do something similar to what Nintendo has done with the DSs and Sony has done with the PSP - hell, Nintendo has done it with the Wii, in that, I expect a totally new XBox (at least from the design perspective) model with a new name (it will not be called 360). It will also have Natal built in. How far they then go to expanding its capabilities I could not guess, but it would not surprise me if they added extra RAM, GPU bandwidth, etc. The same game will run on both the new machine and the old machine, but you will be able to expect higher performance and possibly extra features on the XBOX N3.

They are due a serious hardware revision in any case, as in the PS3 Slim, and I think that it will all be done at the time Natal is launched.

You missed my white text!!!

Leg-End · 13th November 2009, 16:25

I have an Elite with Forza 3 and can honestly say despite it being a great game I hardly ever play it for some reason, and its just noisy....excessively. I will get into Forza eventually I think, I hope.

Olly · 13th November 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Leg-End

I have an Elite with Forza 3 and can honestly say despite it being a great game I hardly ever play it for some reason, and its just noisy....excessively. I will get into Forza eventually I think, I hope.

If you have lots of space on your hard drive, install the game to it and it wont make any noise (well, hardly any).

RedKaos · 13th November 2009, 16:28

I have an elite, still sounds like a jet taking off.

Go for the bundle deal, Mass Effect is only a tenner or so on Amazon anyway.

Leg-End · 13th November 2009, 16:30

Install it? You mean the 2nd disc?, I have. The console itself is just noisy, I would say its probably down to my desk or something but my PS3 is sitting next to it and incomparison is a gagged mouse.

Wouldnt be put off just because its noisy though, Im just saying.

Olly · 13th November 2009, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Leg-End

Install it? You mean the 2nd disc?, I have. The console itself is just noisy, I would say its probably down to my desk or something but my PS3 is sitting next to it and incomparison is a gagged mouse.

Wouldnt be put off just because its noisy though, Im just saying.

No not the second disk, you can install the whole game so it doesn't read off the disc (which I guess is what makes the noise since it's pretty much silent now). You can do it with any game.

When you have the disc inside, go to "My Xbox" -> "Game Library" -> Choose "Forza Motorsport 3..." -> Then choose "Install to hard drive".

Then when you want to play whatever game you've installed, make sure you have the disc in so it can check you actually have it, and after that it'll make hardly any noise at all.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 16:53

You're all fucked then if you bought an Arcade unit?

Leg-End · 13th November 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Olly

No not the second disk, you can install the whole game so it doesn't read off the disc (which I guess is what makes the noise since it's pretty much silent now). You can do it with any game.

When you have the disc inside, go to "My Xbox" -> "Game Library" -> Choose "Forza Motorsport 3..." -> Then choose "Install to hard drive".

Then when you want to play whatever game you've installed, make sure you have the disc in so it can check you actually have it, and after that it'll make hardly any noise at all.

Goes to show how much I use my 360 when I didnt know it even had this feature.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Christofaux

This is a good shout, it will be called the 360n or something like that.

Nintendo have changed the game, or at least moved the goalposts significantly. They have shown that the mass market doesn't give a shit about graphics and sound, they are happy, well, with something else (yes, even an overclocked Game Cube). As for the hardcore, outside of the PC nerds, they seem quite happy with what they have at the moment. So, in that regard, I see absolutely zero need to have a total hardware revision anytime soon.

Nintendo will release a more capable Wii within 18 months IMO, but it will probably at best be comparable to the 360 as is, probably less. Microsoft have this opportunity to relaunch a new revision with Natal - a simple add-on will not work, and Sony has its wands. With Sony I can see an upgraded machine as well, totally backwards compatible, and then an add-on for PS3 to make it exactly the same in terms of feature set, and that will be done though the gigabit ethernet in similar way that they have shown multiple PS3s running GT5 at silly resolutions or silly frame rates.

No need for 720 or PS4 for a very long time.

Devil_forever · 13th November 2009, 20:44

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Nintendo have changed the game, or at least moved the goalposts significantly. They have shown that the mass market doesn't give a shit about graphics and sound, they are happy, well, with something else (yes, even an overclocked Game Cube). As for the hardcore, outside of the PC nerds, they seem quite happy with what they have at the moment. So, in that regard, I see absolutely zero need to have a total hardware revision anytime soon.

Nintendo will release a more capable Wii within 18 months IMO, but it will probably at best be comparable to the 360 as is, probably less. Microsoft have this opportunity to relaunch a new revision with Natal - a simple add-on will not work, and Sony has its wands. With Sony I can see an upgraded machine as well, totally backwards compatible, and then an add-on for PS3 to make it exactly the same in terms of feature set, and that will be done though the gigabit ethernet in similar way that they have shown multiple PS3s running GT5 at silly resolutions or silly frame rates.

No need for 720 or PS4 for a very long time.

If Sony were right about their estimate of 10 years for ps3's life cycle then it should be another 6 years before we see the next one but it could be even longer, if as you've stated before that the PS3's potential hasn't been tapped into yet...at all.

How many years do you think it'll be before we see the PS4? and will Sony be rushed into releasing the PS4 if microsoft (As expected) can't keep up with the PS3's power and have to release the 720?

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

How many years do you think it'll be before we see the PS4? and will Sony be rushed into releasing the PS4 if microsoft (As expected) can't keep up with the PS3's power and have to release the 720?

I think that the base design for a PS4 is already done, and working, they just need to drop in a current level GPU at whatever time that is. They didn't put half a billion dollars into the Cell CPU for nothing, that just gets scaled up (with a bit more RAM for each local SPU store - talking maybe 2 PPU cores and 32 SPU cores), then they plug in a current GPU and give it a FlexIO bus, job done. PS4 will be very cheap for Sony to develop.

I'd say 2014. Depends how Microsoft move. We'll get this upgrade thing in the middle though.

WeasteDevil · 13th November 2009, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Devil_forever

if as you've stated before that the PS3's potential hasn't been tapped into yet...at all.

On the GPU side, I think it's tapped, they can't do much more with it, it is an old known PC derivative part with some modifications. They cannot push RSX much more. What they have to learn is how to use the Cell, and how it can help the RSX and do other things, and it's on that level where I don't think they have a clue. The first parties are getting there though. But they have the time to fuck about with it.

manxmanc · 13th November 2009, 21:28

Get one Elvis.

You can be in my clan.

:gay:

Christofaux · 18th November 2009, 14:49

My 360 is dead, its a 0 day console. Im going to buy the LE Modern Warfare 2 console tomorrow, and if i trade in 3 games i can get forza 3 for free. So im going to trade in COD 4, COD world at war and Forza 2 woop. Console is an elite with the Modern warfare casing, 250gb hdd, 2 wireless controls modern warfare 2, saints row 2 and assassins creed for 599 AUD.

Xander45 · 19th November 2009, 17:35

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Star Ocean isn't an exclusive any more, it's coming out for PS3 in Feb. Mass Effect you can play on the PC.

Ah yes, i forgot that Mass Effect was on Pc, but then again i wouldn't like to play that game on a little PC monitor.

And i had no idea Star Ocean was coming over to the PS3, it's a quality game if you can get past the voices of nearly all the female characters. It's helping pass the time to the release of FF13 and when i need a break from CoD.

Plan M · 20th November 2009, 14:34

I own both an Xbox Elite and Playstation 3 and both are fantastic consoles.

For me, I play on the Elite far more because all of my friends & family use Xbox Live, I prefer the Xbox controller and games like Fable 2 and Forza 3 are awesome. I generally only play the PS3 when I fancy a game of LBP with the wife or we watch a Blu Ray movie in bed.

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esmufc10 First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. Posts: 9,278	I'm tempted to get an Elite <a href="http://d.mediadakine.com/ck.php?n=ad232b97&cb=31979" target="_blank"><img src="http://d.mediadakine.com/avw.php?zoneid=81&cb=31979&n=ad232b97" border="0" alt="" /></a> You know, those loud black boxes, with Modern Warfare 2 and Forza 3 for £199.99. Now I'm not a fan of Forza, but I could always trade that in if I wanted. But I'm going to be paying £45 for MW2 anyway so for an extra £150 I can get the console. Plus I want to play Mass Effect as I've heard good things. What say you?

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13th November 2009, 13:44	#2 (permalink)
El B Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: lost in the tunnel of goats Posts: 1,877	Mass Effect is brilliant. Its kicking about for 8quid pre-owned now, and the new one is out in February. The sequel looks amazing so far. If you can afford it why the hell not. I've a 360, but im tempted to buy a PS3 for MGS4 and Killzone 2.

13th November 2009, 13:57	#4 (permalink)
esmufc10 First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. Posts: 9,278	I think it's a good deal Weatie. Plus there are a few other 360 exclusives I'd like to play.

13th November 2009, 14:01	#5 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Voyeur Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Castellón de la Plana Posts: 70,982	Off topic, but I was just looking on play.com, and they have new ones of my model going at 700 quid. Good god!

13th November 2009, 14:06	#8 (permalink)
gaffs First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: K Stand / Curva Nord Posts: 7,997	I read this on the front page i and thought maybe the World has stopped turning....

13th November 2009, 14:27	#10 (permalink)
gaffs First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: K Stand / Curva Nord Posts: 7,997	I was thinking about getting one as i want to play Gears of War, Halo 3, the GTA DLC, Lips and Natal. Dont worry, I was joking about the last two!!!

13th November 2009, 15:01	#11 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Voyeur Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Castellón de la Plana Posts: 70,982	Now that you mention Natal, I have a conspiracy theory. When Natal appears, I am expecting Microsoft to do something similar to what Nintendo has done with the DSs and Sony has done with the PSP - hell, Nintendo has done it with the Wii, in that, I expect a totally new XBox (at least from the design perspective) model with a new name (it will not be called 360). It will also have Natal built in. How far they then go to expanding its capabilities I could not guess, but it would not surprise me if they added extra RAM, GPU bandwidth, etc. The same game will run on both the new machine and the old machine, but you will be able to expect higher performance and possibly extra features on the XBOX N3. They are due a serious hardware revision in any case, as in the PS3 Slim, and I think that it will all be done at the time Natal is launched.

13th November 2009, 15:04	#12 (permalink)
narnar Needs Help Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: northern ireland Posts: 8,488	It's worth it to play Mass Effect, and also Fable 2.

13th November 2009, 15:54	#15 (permalink)
Olly Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: I would never let a woman kick my ass. If she tried something, I'd be like, Hey! You get your bitch ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie. Posts: 3,203	I got one a few days ago

13th November 2009, 15:54	#16 (permalink)
Spammy Dire rear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: As we all know, face to face embraces run the horrific risk of a clothed crotch graze. Posts: 19,854	Xbox is for teenagers.

13th November 2009, 16:05	#17 (permalink)
AdZzUtd First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: I've Been away for a hot Minute, you know, on tour and that Posts: 8,408	Playstation 3, Elvis, I'll say no more.

13th November 2009, 16:18	#20 (permalink)
PJ Mrs Robinson's bit on the side Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Derry/Belfast/Robinson's marital bed Posts: 9,052	If you do, buy fable 2, or your new acquisition is pointless.

13th November 2009, 16:21	#21 (permalink)
MclarenMP4 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 792	You can get the same deal with Game but they were doing COD MW2 and Fifa 10 rather than Forza 3. I went with the Forza 3 deal becuase it has a higher trading in value.

13th November 2009, 16:25	#23 (permalink)
Leg-End Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 3,528	I have an Elite with Forza 3 and can honestly say despite it being a great game I hardly ever play it for some reason, and its just noisy....excessively. I will get into Forza eventually I think, I hope.

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RedKaos First Team Sub Join Date: May 2007 Location: Justice Posts: 6,625	I have an elite, still sounds like a jet taking off. Go for the bundle deal, Mass Effect is only a tenner or so on Amazon anyway.

13th November 2009, 16:30	#26 (permalink)
Leg-End Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 3,528	Install it? You mean the 2nd disc?, I have. The console itself is just noisy, I would say its probably down to my desk or something but my PS3 is sitting next to it and incomparison is a gagged mouse. Wouldnt be put off just because its noisy though, Im just saying.

13th November 2009, 16:53	#28 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Voyeur Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Castellón de la Plana Posts: 70,982	You're all fucked then if you bought an Arcade unit?

13th November 2009, 21:28	#34 (permalink)
manxmanc First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: IOM Posts: 8,581	Get one Elvis. You can be in my clan. :gay:

18th November 2009, 14:49	#35 (permalink)
Christofaux First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7,175	My 360 is dead, its a 0 day console. Im going to buy the LE Modern Warfare 2 console tomorrow, and if i trade in 3 games i can get forza 3 for free. So im going to trade in COD 4, COD world at war and Forza 2 woop. Console is an elite with the Modern warfare casing, 250gb hdd, 2 wireless controls modern warfare 2, saints row 2 and assassins creed for 599 AUD.

20th November 2009, 14:34	#37 (permalink)
Plan M Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,944	I own both an Xbox Elite and Playstation 3 and both are fantastic consoles. For me, I play on the Elite far more because all of my friends & family use Xbox Live, I prefer the Xbox controller and games like Fable 2 and Forza 3 are awesome. I generally only play the PS3 when I fancy a game of LBP with the wife or we watch a Blu Ray movie in bed.