Is LED worth it?

Cina · 20th March 2011, 14:59

I'm going to finally splash out on a big TV, and I'm debating between spending big or keeping it safe. I've heard LED is pretty much better in every way, and a lot less heavy on the electricity, but do folks reckon it's worth the extra 50% - 70% in price?

I mean, this sort of thing would be great, probably a bit over my price budget but if it's worth it I'd be willing to, something like this:

Powercity Electrical - LCD DVD Digital Camera Laptop Washers Fridges Cookers

Or would I be better dropping 200 quid for this:

Powercity Electrical - LCD DVD Digital Camera Laptop Washers Fridges Cookers (on the right there)

Also, they're both 50hz. Is 100hz worth paying extra for? I've never really noticed a big difference before.

McLovin · 20th March 2011, 15:24

I was in a similar position a month ago, and ended up opting for the LED. The picture's pretty much outstanding, but I cannot really say how different of an experience it'd had been had I gone for the LCD.

Brwned · 20th March 2011, 15:46

Are LED's really that much pricier? I know the emergence of them has brought LCD prises down further but I didn't think they're that expensive.

Why not something in between - £100 more than LCD but £100 less than the other LED? Like this one?

McLovin · 20th March 2011, 15:57

^ That's exactly the one I've got.

Retirantmobs · 20th March 2011, 16:29

You notice the difference quite noticeably, the colours look more true to life than they do on an LCD. As for refresh rates, 50hz is pretty much the standard, you don't really need much more then that, also the Samsung you posted should change the refresh rate up to 63hz if you use a gaming console as this provides a better gaming picture.

WeasteDevil · 20th March 2011, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Are LED's really that much pricier? I know the emergence of them has brought LCD prises down further but I didn't think they're that expensive.

Why not something in between - £100 more than LCD but £100 less than the other LED? Like this one?

LED TVs are LCD TVs, the LEDs simply provide the backlight. Just thought that I'd make that clear. LCD doesn't emit its own light, it needs a light of some form or other behind it.

WeasteDevil · 20th March 2011, 16:41

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Originally Posted by cina

Also, they're both 50hz. Is 100hz worth paying extra for? I've never really noticed a big difference before.

If you really want to be anal regarding refresh rates, then you should be looking at 600Hz. Why? Because it's divisible by 60, 50, 30, 25 and 24. That covers every single frequency that video is captured in without the need to interpolate any frames, 24 obviously being film.

Brwned · 20th March 2011, 16:41

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

LED TVs are LCD TVs, the LEDs simply provide the backlight. Just thought that I'd make that clear. LCD doesn't emit its own light, it needs a light of some form or other behind it.

That's true of the LED edge-lit tvs but is it true of the full array tvs too?

WeasteDevil · 20th March 2011, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Brwned

That's true of the LED edge-lit tvs but is it true of the full array tvs too?

Yes, the panels are LCDs. It's quite different to OLED which do emit their own light but cost a fortune at any reasonable size.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 10:14

Sony just showed off a real LED TV.

Sony crams 6 million LEDs into prototype Crystal display | Crave - CNET

Freak · 10th January 2012, 10:27

Ok so now im deciding between a hd ready led tv or a full hd lcd tv. Any thoughts?

Cina · 10th January 2012, 10:39

What screen size?

mariachi-19 · 10th January 2012, 11:10

I just purchased this

KDL-40CX520 : CX520 Series : BRAVIA

at around half the listed price. It works out at £300
yet to actually receive the television though.

I think the LED edge lit version is $200 more regardless of discount and didn't figure it was really worth it nor did I have the money to buy it. If i'm going to buy a wallmount and possibly the sony wifi dongle, there's already the better part of $200.

Cina · 10th January 2012, 11:12

LED is worth it if you do have the money, but if you're on a budget then LCD is still very good if you pick the right TV. If you're cash restricted I'd recommend LCD for sure.

Saying that, LED have far lower power consumption than LCDs.

dmode · 10th January 2012, 11:36

Correct me if I am wrong, from what I've heard LED gives the best result at sizes >= 50". Otherwise there is not much difference between LED and LCD except for a negligible power consumption difference.

giggs-beckham · 10th January 2012, 12:07

I like this one, I've already got a 50'' plasma samsung so can't justify the money.

SAMSUNG UE55D8000. - YouTube

JazzG · 10th January 2012, 12:26

Plasma for me is still the best until something like OLED comes out on big screens.

mariachi-19 · 10th January 2012, 12:32

I think the thing about Plasma though is that it's picked up a bad reputation. People see it as the inferior technology, but I always thought it was great in terms of picture quality. Especially if you don't spend alot on LCD.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmode

Correct me if I am wrong, from what I've heard LED gives the best result at sizes >= 50". Otherwise there is not much difference between LED and LCD except for a negligible power consumption difference.

Nobody has been daft enough to make a real LED TV before, Sony just did it! What you think of an LED TV is simply LEDs providing the backlight for an LCD panel.

Plechazunga · 10th January 2012, 12:37

It's very much worth it but make sure you're with close friends, and whatever you do don't go in the cellar, that's bad shit.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by cina

LED is worth it if you do have the money, but if you're on a budget then LCD is still very good if you pick the right TV. If you're cash restricted I'd recommend LCD for sure.

Saying that, LED have far lower power consumption than LCDs.

LED as you think of it is an LCD with LED backlights - LCD does not emit light, is needs a backlight. How this confuses people is beyond me!

OLED emits its own light like a CRT or a plasma, but OLED is very expensive to scale up to large sizes. The Sony TV is ~6m LEDs, 3 per pixel R, G, B, so a 1920x1080 display.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 12:42

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Originally Posted by JazzG

Plasma for me is still the best until something like OLED comes out on big screens.

LG just showed a 55" OLED panel - cost? Mwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cina · 10th January 2012, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

LED as you think of it is an LCD with LED backlights - LCD does not emit light, is needs a backlight. How this confuses people is beyond me!

OLED emits its own light like a CRT or a plasma, but OLED is very expensive to scale up to large sizes. The Sony TV is ~6m LEDs, 3 per pixel R, G, B, so a 1920x1080 display.

I'm aware of all this.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 14:40

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Originally Posted by cina

I'm aware of all this.

So what are you talking about.....

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LED is worth it if you do have the money

Where are these LED TVs you are talking about?

Snow · 10th January 2012, 16:04

I bought a Sony 46" LED 5 months ago. Very happy with it. The electricity costs are high here and not included in the rent. New TV's that aren't LED weren't any much less expensive then new that were LED. Not if the TV's were meant to be competitors.

You should get a TV with internet availability. There's innovation in that aspect of the industry. It probably won't do you much good right now but it can change a lot in one or two years.

Cina · 10th January 2012, 16:21

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

So what are you talking about.....

Where are these LED TVs you are talking about?

Seriously? You want me to fully specify it as LED-Backlit LCD instead? They're referred to as LED, I'm sure it's confusing for some who probably think that means it's full on LED, but I know the difference.

Freak · 10th January 2012, 16:35

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Originally Posted by cina

What screen size?

32 inches

Freak · 10th January 2012, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by marchi-91

I just purchased this

KDL-40CX520 : CX520 Series : BRAVIA

at around half the listed price. It works out at £300
yet to actually receive the television though.

I think the LED edge lit version is $200 more regardless of discount and didn't figure it was really worth it nor did I have the money to buy it. If i'm going to buy a wallmount and possibly the sony wifi dongle, there's already the better part of $200.

I was actually checking that out at the store yesterday, except a 32 inch one. Its the only full hd lcd that fits my budget. Im now comparing it with a toshiba hd ready led tv. Not sure which to go witg. Do let me know how this performs.

adexkola · 10th January 2012, 16:48

Plasmas are relatively cheap nowadays, compared to their LED counterparts.

Spoony Youngblood · 10th January 2012, 17:11

Right Weasteman, what's the difference between a proper LED and one Cinca's going to splash out on?

Cina · 10th January 2012, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Freak

32 inches

Full HD isn't very noticeable til you hit 40".

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Originally Posted by Spoony Youngblood

Right Weasteman, what's the difference between a proper LED and one Cinca's going to splash out on?

I bought mine months ago for €800, could've bought a same sized LCD one for around €500. Was it really worth an extra €300? Fuck knows.

Spoony Youngblood · 10th January 2012, 17:25

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Originally Posted by cina

Full HD isn't very noticeable til you hit 40".

I bought mine months ago for €800, could've bought a same sized LCD one for around €500. Was it really worth an extra €300? Fuck knows.

Well according to Weasteman, there's probably a noticeable difference how the bulbs emits light to the screen. Have you gone right up close to the TV and inspected the movement of the rays and how the blacks have a better contrast ratio to greyscales and panton colours?

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoony Youngblood

Right Weasteman, what's the difference between a proper LED and one Cinca's going to splash out on?

A proper LED screen as Sony just showed off has three LEDs on the surface of the panel per pixel (one red, one green, one blue), all emitting light. What Cinca is talking about is an array of LEDs of varying quanitites behind an LCD panel to light it, as it needs to be.

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by cina

Full HD isn't very noticeable til you hit 40".

It depends on how close you sit to it. My computer monitor is Full HD and my face is currently around 2ft away, so yes, I can notice it. The further away you go, the larger the screen size required.

Cina · 10th January 2012, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

It depends on how close you sit to it. My computer monitor is Full HD and my face is currently around 2ft away, so yes, I can notice it. The further away you go, the larger the screen size required.

Well yeah, monitors are a bit of a different story.

Spoony Youngblood · 10th January 2012, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

A proper LED screen as Sony just showed off has three LEDs on the surface of the panel per pixel (one red, one green, one blue), all emitting light. What Cinca is talking about is an array of LEDs of varying quanitites behind an LCD panel to light it, as it needs to be.

A huge difference in picture quality, Weastiality?

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoony Youngblood

A huge difference in picture quality, Weastiality?

Well, yes, because the light is being emitted by the pixels, similar to CRT, Plasma, and OLED. Response time should be almost instant also, on to off, with pure blacks.

Spoony Youngblood · 10th January 2012, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Well, yes, because the light is being emitted by the pixels, similar to CRT, Plasma, and OLED. Response time should be almost instant also, on to off, with pure blacks.

Oh aye...silly me.

I'd like you do stick up some comparison pics, man.

hungrywing · 10th January 2012, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

A proper LED screen as Sony just showed off has three LEDs on the surface of the panel per pixel (one red, one green, one blue), all emitting light. What Cinca is talking about is an array of LEDs of varying quanitites behind an LCD panel to light it, as it needs to be.

Is this that technology that an Australian lab developed about six or seven years ago?

WeasteDevil · 10th January 2012, 23:38

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Originally Posted by hungrywing

Is this that technology that an Australian lab developed about six or seven years ago?

...

Quote:

If you've ever been to a professional baseball, football, or basketball game, and seen the giant screens above the stands, you will be familiar with LED displays. That's fine for an image measured in furlongs, but this is the first time a company has been brave/stupid enough to try it on a television.

No, it's not new, however in a TV it's about the pixel density/dot pitch.

20th March 2011, 14:59	#1 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,937	Is LED worth it? I'm going to finally splash out on a big TV, and I'm debating between spending big or keeping it safe. I've heard LED is pretty much better in every way, and a lot less heavy on the electricity, but do folks reckon it's worth the extra 50% - 70% in price? I mean, this sort of thing would be great, probably a bit over my price budget but if it's worth it I'd be willing to, something like this: Powercity Electrical - LCD DVD Digital Camera Laptop Washers Fridges Cookers Or would I be better dropping 200 quid for this: Powercity Electrical - LCD DVD Digital Camera Laptop Washers Fridges Cookers (on the right there) Also, they're both 50hz. Is 100hz worth paying extra for? I've never really noticed a big difference before.

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20th March 2011, 15:24	#2 (permalink)
McLovin Bites pillows thinking of John Terry Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The day will happen whether or not you get up. Posts: 10,457	I was in a similar position a month ago, and ended up opting for the LED. The picture's pretty much outstanding, but I cannot really say how different of an experience it'd had been had I gone for the LCD.

20th March 2011, 15:46	#3 (permalink)
Brwned Poster of the year: 2010 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 33,938	Are LED's really that much pricier? I know the emergence of them has brought LCD prises down further but I didn't think they're that expensive. Why not something in between - £100 more than LCD but £100 less than the other LED? Like this one?

20th March 2011, 15:57	#4 (permalink)
McLovin Bites pillows thinking of John Terry Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The day will happen whether or not you get up. Posts: 10,457	^ That's exactly the one I've got.

20th March 2011, 16:29	#5 (permalink)
Retirantmobs Stokke Stalker - smells of fish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 17,381	You notice the difference quite noticeably, the colours look more true to life than they do on an LCD. As for refresh rates, 50hz is pretty much the standard, you don't really need much more then that, also the Samsung you posted should change the refresh rate up to 63hz if you use a gaming console as this provides a better gaming picture.

10th January 2012, 10:14	#10 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Observant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MG was wearing a lovely dress and I talked her out of it! Posts: 93,069	Sony just showed off a real LED TV. Sony crams 6 million LEDs into prototype Crystal display \| Crave - CNET

10th January 2012, 10:27	#11 (permalink)
Freak Born a freak always a freak. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere in your mind, touching a nerve Posts: 10,273	Ok so now im deciding between a hd ready led tv or a full hd lcd tv. Any thoughts?

10th January 2012, 10:39	#12 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,937	What screen size?

10th January 2012, 11:10	#13 (permalink)
mariachi-19 First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I may be the devil, but i'm not a monster Posts: 12,594	I just purchased this KDL-40CX520 : CX520 Series : BRAVIA at around half the listed price. It works out at £300 yet to actually receive the television though. I think the LED edge lit version is $200 more regardless of discount and didn't figure it was really worth it nor did I have the money to buy it. If i'm going to buy a wallmount and possibly the sony wifi dongle, there's already the better part of $200.

10th January 2012, 11:12	#14 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,937	LED is worth it if you do have the money, but if you're on a budget then LCD is still very good if you pick the right TV. If you're cash restricted I'd recommend LCD for sure. Saying that, LED have far lower power consumption than LCDs.

10th January 2012, 11:36	#15 (permalink)
dmode Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: vega Posts: 4,217	Correct me if I am wrong, from what I've heard LED gives the best result at sizes >= 50". Otherwise there is not much difference between LED and LCD except for a negligible power consumption difference.

10th January 2012, 12:07	#16 (permalink)
giggs-beckham Clueless Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,718	I like this one, I've already got a 50'' plasma samsung so can't justify the money. SAMSUNG UE55D8000. - YouTube

10th January 2012, 12:26	#17 (permalink)
JazzG Resident Arse. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 799	Plasma for me is still the best until something like OLED comes out on big screens.

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mariachi-19 First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I may be the devil, but i'm not a monster Posts: 12,594	I think the thing about Plasma though is that it's picked up a bad reputation. People see it as the inferior technology, but I always thought it was great in terms of picture quality. Especially if you don't spend alot on LCD.

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Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	It's very much worth it but make sure you're with close friends, and whatever you do don't go in the cellar, that's bad shit.

10th January 2012, 16:04	#25 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 12,305	I bought a Sony 46" LED 5 months ago. Very happy with it. The electricity costs are high here and not included in the rent. New TV's that aren't LED weren't any much less expensive then new that were LED. Not if the TV's were meant to be competitors. You should get a TV with internet availability. There's innovation in that aspect of the industry. It probably won't do you much good right now but it can change a lot in one or two years.

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adexkola First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. Onwards and upwards. "Take me home, United Road." Posts: 9,810	Plasmas are relatively cheap nowadays, compared to their LED counterparts.

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Spoony Youngblood Wants to be more like Top Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: RIP Sydney Youngblood, who died in a tragic go-karting accident in 2007. RIP my cat 2001-09. iRIP Steve Cunting Jobs Posts: 42,368	Right Weasteman, what's the difference between a proper LED and one Cinca's going to splash out on?