Lost Series 4 BE AWARE THIS THREAD MIGHT INCLUDE SPOILERS

101 · 30th May 2008, 13:59

And I came up with it all by myself

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 14:04

so locke is the leader of the others on the island and dead off it. jin is more or less confirmed dead...sun is with charles windmore

ben is alive and well and is planning to get back along with the oceanic 6 and locke

and the island has a wheel through which it can be moved and sawyer is alive and will probably be the leader of the losties on the island.

pen and des reunite and frank is alive....keamy gets what he deserves.

i think i summed up the episode

101 · 30th May 2008, 14:15

Doesn't that mean that Des will have to come back to the island too because he also left? And I thought that if you move the island you can't set foot on it again. Ben's treading a finee line.

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 14:28

i think ben meant once you move the island you get teleported off the island and you have to idea to where it got moved...

did anyone notice hugo playing chess with eko ??

101 · 30th May 2008, 14:32

That was cool. I'm a bit underwhelmed with this island moving lark though, I was expecting some kind of mystical time travelling phenomenon or some kind of implosion or a black hole. Instead the island plops into the sea.

Red Devil 26 · 30th May 2008, 14:35

What a finale that was. My interest in Lost had been waning, but that's pretty much peaked it again, can't wait for the next series.

Any ideas why Locke was named Jeremy Lantham was it? Or was that merely so he wouldn't be identified as a member of flight 815?

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 14:42

alternate endings

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/05/...e-endings.html

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 14:43

when is season 5 airing anyway....i hope its soon.

101 · 30th May 2008, 14:45

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Originally Posted by Red Devil 26

What a finale that was. My interest in Lost had been waning, but that's pretty much peaked it again, can't wait for the next series.

Any ideas why Locke was named Jeremy Lantham was it? Or was that merely so he wouldn't be identified as a member of flight 815?

Jeremy Bentham. From the Lost messageboard:

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So it appears that one Mr. Jeremy Bentham (aka John Lock) was quite a man a few centuries ago. Read the following from Wikipedia clip about his political and rights beliefs:
"Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748–6 June 1832) was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical, and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He is best known for his advocacy of utilitarianism, for the concept of animal rights,and is opposition to the idea of natural rights, with his oft-quoted statement that the idea of such rights is "nonsense upon stilts." He also influenced the development of welfarism.
He became known as one of the most influential of the utilitarians, through his own work and that of his students. These included his secretary and collaborator on the utilitarian school of philosophy, James Mill; James Mill's son John Stuart Mill; and several political leaders including Robert Owen, who later became a founder of socialism. He is also considered the godfather of University College London.
Bentham's position included arguments in favour of individual and economic freedom, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the end of slavery, the abolition of physical punishment (including that of children), the right to divorce, free trade, usury, and the decriminalization of homosexuality."
Net-net -- he was all about collectiveism, human rights, and utilitarianism. Sort of sounds like the way life was heading on the Island, no? Just a thought.

crappycraperson · 30th May 2008, 14:47

The wheel

Fuck me, surely they could have come with something better than that.

Anyway, Island has not moved. It's gone back or forward in time. Most probably backwards.

crappycraperson · 30th May 2008, 14:48

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Originally Posted by VidaRed

when is season 5 airing anyway....i hope its soon.

Jan 2009

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 14:50

what 7 months ?

Ekeke · 30th May 2008, 14:52

If the Island has gone back in time, why is it not still where it was standing, now?

That means either it gets moved at some point after, explodes or submerges.

Or alternatively, it did just move - like the rabbit was going to, to another destination.

101 · 30th May 2008, 14:54

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

The wheel

Fuck me, surely they could have come with something better than that.

Anyway, Island has not moved. It's gone back or forward in time. Most probably backwards.

Made me laugh too. Another weird thought is that if Locke is really dead, then he might come back as one of those half-dead/ghost people on the island. Those visions of Christian are actually using his body as when Jack discovered his coffin in season 1 it was empty.

KeyserSoze · 30th May 2008, 14:55

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Originally Posted by VidaRed

alternate endings

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/05/...e-endings.html

How can they have alternate endings for who is in the flippin coffin. Surely that is a big part of future storylines

101 · 30th May 2008, 15:00

Apparently they were spoilers to throw off people so they didn't know who was REALLY in the coffin.

Hectic · 30th May 2008, 15:02

Stayed up and watched it till 7am, what a idiot! It was a great finale though, can't wait to see where they go with this.

crappycraperson · 30th May 2008, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

If the Island has gone back in time, why is it not still where it was standing, now?

That means either it gets moved at some point after, explodes or submerges.

Or alternatively, it did just move - like the rabbit was going to, to another destination.

I think the tape said, Rabbit just disappeared for amount of time it was supposed to go into the future or past. They didn't show after that.

I am pretty sure it has not moved because of the dialogue between Jack and Hurley. When fatty says Locke was successful in moving it and Jack said no. But could not give an explanation. We will have the explanation in coming season.

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 15:20

i think it moved back in time because the wheel was moved backwards by ben and the tape locke was watching also re winded

Rahul · 30th May 2008, 17:24

Locke !, In the coffin !? Jeremy Benthan !?

Have to say the finale DID really live up the hype. Walt starting to look like Jay-z btw.

Plus Hurley playing chess with "Mr.eko" was a bit suprise as well. Then again so was loads of stuff.

I don't think Michael's dead, although i think Jin got it this time.

can't wait for next season.

crappycraperson · 30th May 2008, 17:26

Micheal is definitely did...hence Jacob/CS telling him it's his time now.

Jin could well be alive, if they were killing him off, they would have defo showed him getting proper blown up.

Solius · 30th May 2008, 17:34

Michael is dead for sure, he was right next to the bomb when Christian said he can go now. The island let him die this time.

Ekeke · 30th May 2008, 18:04

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

I think the tape said, Rabbit just disappeared for amount of time it was supposed to go into the future or past. They didn't show after that.

I am pretty sure it has not moved because of the dialogue between Jack and Hurley. When fatty says Locke was successful in moving it and Jack said no. But could not give an explanation. We will have the explanation in coming season.

Well the Island was gone for more than a moment...

The point is, if the Island went into the past - it would still be in the exact same position. The people and everything on the island would have aged/change, but it would still be there.

On the other hand, if the Island went into the future... It could be completely gone. But unless as well as time travelling, it also moved, then surely the Island would land on top of the current future Island?

20le_Solskjaer · 30th May 2008, 18:55

What an episode. lived up to the hype alright!

Tibs · 30th May 2008, 20:38

Fuck this!

I've got to wait SEVEN hours for the toad to download

malcolm31337 · 30th May 2008, 21:11

WOW! WOW! That was a great ep. I can see why the wheel though, looks like its been around for centuries.

Anyway so many things happened!

I wont lie, i had tears when Penny found Desmond. That moved me.

I love the explanation for most of the crazy shit, anti matter. Something that is supposed to exist but doesnt really.

Great scenes, whens the next series?

malcolm31337 · 30th May 2008, 21:17

Doesnt Jin survive? What did Jacobs man , aka Jacks dad!, do?

One things for sure, theyve answered questions but left some great ones unanswered. And thats why we keep comin back for more!

KeyserSoze · 30th May 2008, 21:18

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Originally Posted by VidaRed

what 7 months ?

Dont worry VidaRed, United will be back sooner

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

Dont worry VidaRed, United will be back sooner

and liverpool are usually out of the title race also by then

VidaRed · 30th May 2008, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Tibs

Fuck this!

I've got to wait SEVEN hours for the toad to download

have you just started downloading ?? if not then i can help you to download faster.

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101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 3,285	And I came up with it all by myself

30th May 2008, 14:04	#923 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	so locke is the leader of the others on the island and dead off it. jin is more or less confirmed dead...sun is with charles windmore ben is alive and well and is planning to get back along with the oceanic 6 and locke and the island has a wheel through which it can be moved and sawyer is alive and will probably be the leader of the losties on the island. pen and des reunite and frank is alive....keamy gets what he deserves. i think i summed up the episode

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101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 3,285	Doesn't that mean that Des will have to come back to the island too because he also left? And I thought that if you move the island you can't set foot on it again. Ben's treading a finee line.

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VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	i think ben meant once you move the island you get teleported off the island and you have to idea to where it got moved... did anyone notice hugo playing chess with eko ??

30th May 2008, 14:32	#926 (permalink)
101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 3,285	That was cool. I'm a bit underwhelmed with this island moving lark though, I was expecting some kind of mystical time travelling phenomenon or some kind of implosion or a black hole. Instead the island plops into the sea.

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Red Devil 26 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: <Insert witty remark> Posts: 1,186	What a finale that was. My interest in Lost had been waning, but that's pretty much peaked it again, can't wait for the next series. Any ideas why Locke was named Jeremy Lantham was it? Or was that merely so he wouldn't be identified as a member of flight 815?

30th May 2008, 14:42	#928 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	alternate endings http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/05/...e-endings.html

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VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	when is season 5 airing anyway....i hope its soon.

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crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 11,494	The wheel Fuck me, surely they could have come with something better than that. Anyway, Island has not moved. It's gone back or forward in time. Most probably backwards.

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VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	what 7 months ?

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Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,965	If the Island has gone back in time, why is it not still where it was standing, now? That means either it gets moved at some point after, explodes or submerges. Or alternatively, it did just move - like the rabbit was going to, to another destination.

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101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 3,285	Apparently they were spoilers to throw off people so they didn't know who was REALLY in the coffin.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Created by two, felt by millions - T.I.O.T.R Posts: 22,453	Stayed up and watched it till 7am, what a idiot! It was a great finale though, can't wait to see where they go with this.

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VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,594	i think it moved back in time because the wheel was moved backwards by ben and the tape locke was watching also re winded

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Rahul First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hunting The Hunter ! Posts: 5,623	Locke !, In the coffin !? Jeremy Benthan !? Have to say the finale DID really live up the hype. Walt starting to look like Jay-z btw. Plus Hurley playing chess with "Mr.eko" was a bit suprise as well. Then again so was loads of stuff. I don't think Michael's dead, although i think Jin got it this time. can't wait for next season.

30th May 2008, 17:26	#942 (permalink)
crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: <Insert something funny here> Posts: 11,494	Micheal is definitely did...hence Jacob/CS telling him it's his time now. Jin could well be alive, if they were killing him off, they would have defo showed him getting proper blown up.

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Solius First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Playing Connect 4 with Tevez and Anderson. Posts: 10,640	Michael is dead for sure, he was right next to the bomb when Christian said he can go now. The island let him die this time.

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20le_Solskjaer Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere...In the midst of our glory Posts: 1,235	What an episode. lived up to the hype alright!

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Tibs Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,904	Fuck this! I've got to wait SEVEN hours for the toad to download

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30th May 2008, 21:11	#947 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07, 08...09 Posts: 3,812	WOW! WOW! That was a great ep. I can see why the wheel though, looks like its been around for centuries. Anyway so many things happened! I wont lie, i had tears when Penny found Desmond. That moved me. I love the explanation for most of the crazy shit, anti matter. Something that is supposed to exist but doesnt really. Great scenes, whens the next series?

30th May 2008, 21:17	#948 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07, 08...09 Posts: 3,812	Doesnt Jin survive? What did Jacobs man , aka Jacks dad!, do? One things for sure, theyve answered questions but left some great ones unanswered. And thats why we keep comin back for more!