Lost Series 4 BE AWARE THIS THREAD MIGHT INCLUDE SPOILERS

VidaRed · 3rd February 2008, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

The black guy is probably the smoke monster, haunting the people who left the Island - not letting them go.

I was wondering who was in the coffin and who's funeral Jack went to at the end of season 3, and now I'm thinking it might be Hurley's.

1) Smoke monster visits Hurley.
2) Hurley gets spooked
3) Jack sees Hurley
4) Hurley dies. Suicide? Smoke monster?
5) Jack is depressed. Tries to take his life.
6) Sees Kate. Passes on the unhappiness, etc.

Still a work in progress though I know and its not like Jack is actually going to kill himself, but maybe its the unhappiness and will to make things end that is passed on. So far we've seen both Hurley and Jack and they have both been terrible. Kate looks good - but so did Jack when he met up with Hurley. So next I'm expecting her life to be back in the shitter.

As for the "Oceanic 6" - I can see it being Jack, Hurley, Kate, Clare + Aaron and maybe err.. Sawyer or Sayid. Though really, now that Sawyer's main plot has finished, I can see him dying.

rest of it makes sense but i dont think the black guy is the smoke monster

BAMSOLA · 3rd February 2008, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Alex

This is the final season

Nope, supposed to be about two more.

101 · 3rd February 2008, 14:44

Lost will end in 2010, 6 seasons in total

francobaresi · 3rd February 2008, 15:21

Lost is fucking shit

Hope this helps

Ekeke · 3rd February 2008, 15:35

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Originally Posted by VidaRed

rest of it makes sense but i dont think the black guy is the smoke monster

It's possible though isnt it? The smoke monster has already taken on a human form when it was talking to Ecko as his brother and then killed him.

Possibly, the smoke cant leave the island. But we dont know that. Besides, if you watch when the black guy leaves the room it almost looks like a black smoke he leaves behind. Its just his shadow, but it does suggest it could be the black smoke monster.

crappycraperson · 3rd February 2008, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekeke

The black guy is probably the smoke monster, haunting the people who left the Island - not letting them go.

I was wondering who was in the coffin and who's funeral Jack went to at the end of season 3, and now I'm thinking it might be Hurley's.

1) Smoke monster visits Hurley.
2) Hurley gets spooked
3) Jack sees Hurley
4) Hurley dies. Suicide? Smoke monster?
5) Jack is depressed. Tries to take his life.
6) Sees Kate. Passes on the unhappiness, etc.

Still a work in progress though I know and its not like Jack is actually going to kill himself, but maybe its the unhappiness and will to make things end that is passed on. So far we've seen both Hurley and Jack and they have both been terrible. Kate looks good - but so did Jack when he met up with Hurley. So next I'm expecting her life to be back in the shitter.

As for the "Oceanic 6" - I can see it being Jack, Hurley, Kate, Clare + Aaron and maybe err.. Sawyer or Sayid. Though really, now that Sawyer's main plot has finished, I can see him dying.

Oceanic 6 has already been spoiled ......

Spoilers*******************************

It's Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin.

Plus Desmond may make it off and won't be counted among Oceanic 6.

This season is all about reaching the point when Oceanic 6 decide to go back. Ofcourse also show how they got made it off.

Next would be about how they again reach the island and what's going on with people left there in the mean time.

The last will be resolution.

Ekeke · 3rd February 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by crappycraperson

Oceanic 6 has already been spoiled ......

Spoilers*******************************

It's Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin.

Plus Desmond may make it off and won't be counted among Oceanic 6.

This season is all about reaching the point when Oceanic 6 decide to go back. Ofcourse also show how they got made it off.

Next would be about how they again reach the island and what's going on with people left there in the mean time.

The last will be resolution.

I heard that spoiler too, but I dont believe it.

Does Sun lose the baby then? Else its 7 people.

crappycraperson · 3rd February 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

I heard that spoiler too, but I dont believe it.

Does Sun lose the baby then? Else its 7 people.

It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.

Ekeke · 4th February 2008, 00:01

[quote=crappycraperson;4149897]It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.[/QUOTE

So again, no baby?

VidaRed · 4th February 2008, 00:13

baby doesn't count if its in the mother.

if those 6 got off the island then only sawyer and locke are left on the island who can fight.

Reddish · 4th February 2008, 11:28

Fucking shit start to a series.

GloryHunter07 · 4th February 2008, 11:31

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Originally Posted by botond

that black man , who visited Hurley , what did he say , who's alive ?
great episode , Hurley is going mental ?

He has always been mental.

GloryHunter07 · 4th February 2008, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Reddish

Fucking shit start to a series.

wasnt amazing was it? Not bad though. Hopefully it will pick up.

Not as good as the start to season 3..

Reddish · 4th February 2008, 11:36

I'm just glad I have Sky+ and don't have to watch a single advert, or I'd be fecking bored outa my head.

crappycraperson · 4th February 2008, 11:42

[quote=Ekeke;4151160]

Quote:

Originally Posted by crappycraperson

It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.[/QUOTE

So again, no baby?

Baby would be there I guess. The name of their episode is after the name of their child. Jeyon or something and Jin is seen outside a toy shop with panda or something.

ih8cheatskiscum · 6th February 2008, 08:29

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Originally Posted by Tibs

I can't wait...I'm going to have to hurry up and watch Heroes Eps 9,10,11..don't wan to be going through too many shows at once.

Important question:

Kate, or Juliet?

I'd do Kate all round the island

Rahul · 7th February 2008, 10:17

find815.com

Your suppose to watch these episodes as well in accordance to Season 4. He found oceanic flight 815.

VidaRed · 8th February 2008, 20:06

just saw episode 02

who is the black guy? he seems to me a leader of another organization

charlotte the girl that came from the boat is fit

and ben is always one step ahead of everyone

"Time travel and other supernatural elements will be a part of the season, and decoy endings have been shot"

101 · 8th February 2008, 20:18

That was one hell of an episode! Ben just gets wilier!

Scholesy · 8th February 2008, 20:23

Anyone else going off Jack?

Bens growing on me though...

VidaRed · 8th February 2008, 20:24

about the black guy

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Matthew_Abaddon/Theories

Veron · 9th February 2008, 14:51

Brilliant episode as usuall,just wish i could watch 10 episodes of lost everyday,one of the few shows were constant plot twists arent annoying,just keeps growing on you.

VidaRed · 9th February 2008, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Veron

Brilliant episode as usuall,just wish i could watch 10 episodes of lost everyday,one of the few shows were constant plot twists arent annoying,just keeps growing on you.

seconded...im always looking forward to the next episode

Veron · 9th February 2008, 18:36

this is simply the greatest theory out there about what's actuall happening in lost.....its about time travel and you'll need patience to read through this

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

Tibs · 9th February 2008, 20:48

Brilliant episode yet again.

101 · 9th February 2008, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veron

this is simply the greatest theory out there about what's actuall happening in lost.....its about time travel and you'll need patience to read through this

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

That is a very interesting article. Well worth a read.

Don16 · 9th February 2008, 23:16

Brilliant episode. Much better than last week... John Locke is easily the best character on TV. I don't like any of the new people though, they're all gimps. Hope Locke kills them all soon.

Its blatant that John Locke is gonna blow that chopper up. Because John locke will fuck your shit up. http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/John_Locke

Just read this, and it's similar to what I was thinking:

"The 815 survivors have rifles and guns. The 815 survivors have a camp, a really weird agenda (some of them anyway), and about half of them have no desire to leave the island. Sound a little familiar? You bet. Our beloved 815’ers have come full circle. They’ve executed their own purge, but the Others aren’t truly gone: the 815’ers have become the Others – without even knowing how."

VidaRed · 9th February 2008, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veron

this is simply the greatest theory out there about what's actuall happening in lost.....its about time travel and you'll need patience to read through this

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

i spent a hour reading all of that and im still confused

101 · 10th February 2008, 10:53

That kind of explains it all.

Basically, when the plane crashed in 2004, to the real world it appeared that it was in the ocean and everyone was dead etc. However, the plane actually crashed on the island and was sent back in time to the year 2000.

The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch. When Desmond hits the failsafe, the year on the island is 2000 as is now the year in the real world (see new timeline). The island is also therefore visible to the outside world, hence Naomi is able to locate it.

As everyone was supposed to die in the plane crash in 2004, fate has a way of 'course correcting.' So the 6 that get off the island will eventually die before September 22nd, 2004 in the new timeline. Hence when we see at the end of season 3, Jack is at a funeral who we assume to be Sawyer's because of Kate's reaction.

The island will also be destroyed because in the original timeline, the plane crashed in the middle of the ocean where no island existed, so fate's course correction will lead to the island's destruction.

Least that's how I understand it

Mozza · 10th February 2008, 10:58

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Originally Posted by 101

3rd February 2008, 14:44	#163 (permalink)
101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 1,848	Lost will end in 2010, 6 seasons in total

3rd February 2008, 15:21	#164 (permalink)
francobaresi Sleep inducing poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,254	Lost is fucking shit Hope this helps

4th February 2008, 00:01	#169 (permalink)
Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,139	[quote=crappycraperson;4149897]It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season. Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think. There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.[/QUOTE So again, no baby?

4th February 2008, 00:13	#170 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,516	baby doesn't count if its in the mother. if those 6 got off the island then only sawyer and locke are left on the island who can fight.

4th February 2008, 11:28	#171 (permalink)
Reddish Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,037	Fucking shit start to a series.

4th February 2008, 11:36	#174 (permalink)
Reddish Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,037	I'm just glad I have Sky+ and don't have to watch a single advert, or I'd be fecking bored outa my head.

7th February 2008, 10:17	#177 (permalink)
Rahul Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,198	find815.com Your suppose to watch these episodes as well in accordance to Season 4. He found oceanic flight 815.

8th February 2008, 20:06	#178 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,516	just saw episode 02 who is the black guy? he seems to me a leader of another organization charlotte the girl that came from the boat is fit and ben is always one step ahead of everyone "Time travel and other supernatural elements will be a part of the season, and decoy endings have been shot"

8th February 2008, 20:18	#179 (permalink)
101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 1,848	That was one hell of an episode! Ben just gets wilier!

8th February 2008, 20:23	#180 (permalink)
Scholesy biggest idiotic gay in the village Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CL Final, Moscow Posts: 3,222	Anyone else going off Jack? Bens growing on me though...

8th February 2008, 20:24	#181 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,516	about the black guy http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Matthew_Abaddon/Theories

9th February 2008, 14:51	#182 (permalink)
Veron Varun Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,833	Brilliant episode as usuall,just wish i could watch 10 episodes of lost everyday,one of the few shows were constant plot twists arent annoying,just keeps growing on you.

9th February 2008, 18:36	#184 (permalink)
Veron Varun Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,833	this is simply the greatest theory out there about what's actuall happening in lost.....its about time travel and you'll need patience to read through this http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

9th February 2008, 20:48	#185 (permalink)
Tibs Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,529	Brilliant episode yet again.

9th February 2008, 23:16	#187 (permalink)
Don16 Annoying cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The big goalies coming up! Posts: 2,548	Brilliant episode. Much better than last week... John Locke is easily the best character on TV. I don't like any of the new people though, they're all gimps. Hope Locke kills them all soon. Its blatant that John Locke is gonna blow that chopper up. Because John locke will fuck your shit up. http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/John_Locke Just read this, and it's similar to what I was thinking: "The 815 survivors have rifles and guns. The 815 survivors have a camp, a really weird agenda (some of them anyway), and about half of them have no desire to leave the island. Sound a little familiar? You bet. Our beloved 815’ers have come full circle. They’ve executed their own purge, but the Others aren’t truly gone: the 815’ers have become the Others – without even knowing how."

10th February 2008, 10:53	#189 (permalink)
101 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 1,848	That kind of explains it all. Basically, when the plane crashed in 2004, to the real world it appeared that it was in the ocean and everyone was dead etc. However, the plane actually crashed on the island and was sent back in time to the year 2000. The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch. When Desmond hits the failsafe, the year on the island is 2000 as is now the year in the real world (see new timeline). The island is also therefore visible to the outside world, hence Naomi is able to locate it. As everyone was supposed to die in the plane crash in 2004, fate has a way of 'course correcting.' So the 6 that get off the island will eventually die before September 22nd, 2004 in the new timeline. Hence when we see at the end of season 3, Jack is at a funeral who we assume to be Sawyer's because of Kate's reaction. The island will also be destroyed because in the original timeline, the plane crashed in the middle of the ocean where no island existed, so fate's course correction will lead to the island's destruction. Least that's how I understand it

Lost Series 4 *BE AWARE THIS THREAD MIGHT INCLUDE SPOILERS*

Lost Series 4 BE AWARE THIS THREAD MIGHT INCLUDE SPOILERS