M Night Shyamalan

championo · 8th February 2010, 07:11

What do you think of him? I have been disappointed in all of his movies, but somehow I will go and watch his new movie on Avatars, The Last Airbender.
I hope he does not mess that nice anime up.

Do you think he is talented or he just wants to create just do foreplay without climax in majority of his movies?

FreakyJim · 8th February 2010, 09:06

He's hated more than liked because of false expectations that precede his films. Mostly because of false advertising.
He does try to make deeper and meaningful mainstream films and for example imo Unbreakable is the best super hero movie I've ever seen. His take on the subject is quite original and well executed.
Also the Village is an underrated drama/love story.

But people mostly concentrate on things like the water "plot hole" in Signs, the twists and other meaningless crap, missing the point of his films entirely.

BAMSOLA · 8th February 2010, 09:30

Agree with you on Unbreakable also The sixth sense deserves a mention. However the happening was a little bit shit in fairness as was lady in the water. Desperately needs to get back to form ASAP.

Bury Red · 8th February 2010, 09:52

His films have gone down hill progressively from The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable, the first being an excellently made ghost story with a twist (not so rewatchable once you know the twist) and the second being a brilliant take on superhero films.

Signs was watchable but flawed. The Village was OK but tried way too hard to have the big twist at the end like The Sixth Sense but unfortunately anyone but a moron would have got it by the half way point. Lady in the Water was complete shite and The Happening looked so bad I've not bothered watching it although my wife and daughter described it as OK with the crappest ending in the whole of cinematic history.

He needs to stop trying to be an auteur and just get on with directing decent films because the harder he tries to recapture the element of surprise that made his first two films great the worse his output gets.

032Devil · 8th February 2010, 09:54

'Signs' was crap.

His films leave you feeling empty (in a bad way).

Raoul · 8th February 2010, 11:39

The previews for "The Last Airbender" look pretty good.

BAMSOLA · 8th February 2010, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Raoul

The previews for "The Last Airbender" look pretty good.

Actually now that Mark Kermode has spent the last couple of months taking the piss out of this movie(based on the title alone) I can't take it seriously.

TuTuHimm · 8th February 2010, 13:09

He's the guy that is famous for making plot twists in his movies, like in The Sixth Sense where the guy with the hairpiece turns out to be Bruce Willis the whole time.

Count Duckula · 8th February 2010, 13:18

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

Actually now that Mark Kermode has spent the last couple of months taking the piss out of this movie(based on the title alone) I can't take it seriously.

Hmm, I may like it then, since Mark Kermode is an unsufferable cunt so far up his own arse he can smell the contents of his lunch.

BAMSOLA · 8th February 2010, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

Hmm, I may like it then, since Mark Kermode is an unsufferable cunt so far up his own arse he can smell the contents of his lunch.

Fair point. He does know his stuff though and is for my money the second best movie critic around assuming Barry Norman still works.

He also does a great friday night radio show with Simon Mayo.

AdZzUtd · 8th February 2010, 14:54

I enjoyed Signs I really did, I mean this on the linear level - I enjoyed Mel Gibson's acting, I enjoyed the mystery and intrigue surrounding the aliens. Especially when they were at the house at night and on this basis Signs was for all intrinsic purposes a good film.

However, if you watch the film with any semblance of sanity and intelligence it eventually becomes obvious that an Alien civilisation which can transverse the indeterminable vastness of the universe with the added capability of a fully blown military invasion tagged onto the end of this gigantic journey - that these Aliens, these highly educated beings might have noticed, nay, might have detected long before sight of Earth those two really, really big pools either side of the continents. I.e. The Atlantic and the Pacific, now, dare I say these beings will probably have come across this abundant substance somewhere else, you know, on their endless voyages through space and this particular liquid substance, known as water, was, well you know....highly acidic to their skin.

The same substance which, any intelligent being would probably call our planet, "Ah look, theirs water." Not...."Aha, Earth, no water their boys...accept, those two really big blue pools of water."

M. Night Shyamalan.

Hectic · 8th February 2010, 14:58

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Originally Posted by TuTuHimm

He's the guy that is famous for making plot twists in his movies, like in The Sixth Sense where the guy with the hairpiece turns out to be Bruce Willis the whole time.

Charlie!

Grinner · 8th February 2010, 17:45

If you've got a really shit idea like The Happening why would you fuck it up even more by casting Marky Mark as the lead? Or was he the only one dumb enough to think he could pull it off?

bill.s.preston · 8th February 2010, 18:02

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Originally Posted by AdZzUtd

I enjoyed Signs I really did, I mean this on the linear level - I enjoyed Mel Gibson's acting, I enjoyed the mystery and intrigue surrounding the aliens. Especially when they were at the house at night and on this basis Signs was for all intrinsic purposes a good film.

However, if you watch the film with any semblance of sanity and intelligence it eventually becomes obvious that an Alien civilisation which can transverse the indeterminable vastness of the universe with the added capability of a fully blown military invasion tagged onto the end of this gigantic journey - that these Aliens, these highly educated beings might have noticed, nay, might have detected long before sight of Earth those two really, really big pools either side of the continents. I.e. The Atlantic and the Pacific, now, dare I say these beings will probably have come across this abundant substance somewhere else, you know, on their endless voyages through space and this particular liquid substance, known as water, was, well you know....highly acidic to their skin.

The same substance which, any intelligent being would probably call our planet, "Ah look, theirs water." Not...."Aha, Earth, no water their boys...accept, those two really big blue pools of water."

M. Night Shyamalan.

I disagree, any intelligent being would say there's, there and except. in the bolded parts above.

M. Night Pedantaman.

Just playing!

Count Duckula · 8th February 2010, 18:05

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Originally Posted by bill.s.preston

I disagree, any intelligent being would say there's, there and except. in the bolded parts above.

M. Night Pedantaman.

Just playing!

And an intelligent being also wouldn't randomly put a fullstop in the middle of the bolded parts above.

Also just playing!

AdZzUtd · 8th February 2010, 18:11

Meh.

dumbo · 8th February 2010, 18:14

I enjoyed Signs and The Village despite them containing a lot of stupid shit. Unbreakable and 6th sense were good films.

So I still regard him as a good film maker (if you ignore some of the more stupid plot elements). I'm yet to see either Lady in the water or the Happening which seem to have destroyed any credibility he had.

Count Duckula · 8th February 2010, 18:16

I watched The Happening on the flight back to London from Buenos Aires, because there was fuck all else on. It was so unutterably shite, I can't even begin to do its shitness justice.

bill.s.preston · 8th February 2010, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Count Duckula

And an intelligent being also wouldn't randomly put a fullstop in the middle of the bolded parts above.

Also just playing!

I deleted some text and missed the punctuation.

I am officially crap at grammar policing.

Grinner · 8th February 2010, 18:26

The cunt also has the most annoying name of any director. How the fuck do you even pronounce it anyway?

Sca11ywag · 8th February 2010, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Bury Red

His films have gone down hill progressively from The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable, the first being an excellently made ghost story with a twist (not so rewatchable once you know the twist) and the second being a brilliant take on superhero films.

Signs was watchable but flawed. The Village was OK but tried way too hard to have the big twist at the end like The Sixth Sense but unfortunately anyone but a moron would have got it by the half way point. Lady in the Water was complete shite and The Happening looked so bad I've not bothered watching it although my wife and daughter described it as OK with the crappest ending in the whole of cinematic history.

He needs to stop trying to be an auteur and just get on with directing decent films because the harder he tries to recapture the element of surprise that made his first two films great the worse his output gets.

Sorry, but I believe that accolade goes to "The Mist"

BAMSOLA · 8th February 2010, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Grinner

The cunt also has the most annoying name of any director. How the fuck do you even pronounce it anyway?

Shy-am-moo-lan. or Shy-am-ma-lan.

BAMSOLA · 8th February 2010, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Sca11ywag

Sorry, but I believe that accolade goes to "The Mist"

Not sure about the mists ending is like but surely it can't be worse than Spielberg's War Of The Worlds.

Spammy · 8th February 2010, 19:24

He gets a lot of stick because it's obvious that he does have some smatterings of talent as a film maker, but as a writer he seems to display a worrying lack of judgement and is devoid of any self-awareness.

In The Lady And The Water or whatever it is called, he cast himself as a revolutionary writer who's writing was set to change the world. He also created a character that was a film critic and had him killed, which was fairly embarrassing.

Wibble · 8th February 2010, 22:20

The Sixth Sense was a very good film. Everything else has been almost unwatchably bad. Although Signs had some unintentional laughs.

Hectic · 8th February 2010, 23:07

Who knew there was an Unbreakable 2 in the works?

Wibble · 8th February 2010, 23:21

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo

Wonder Pigeon · 8th February 2010, 23:24

The cartoon he's adapting this new film from was recommended to me recently. Its pretty good, I mean, relatively speaking, it is a kid's cartoon. Shyamalan's movie doesn't seem like its being marketed with kids in mind though...my prediction is that it'll flop.

Spammy · 8th February 2010, 23:25

He can build tension very well, then he just destroys it with some religious guff.

Elliott · 8th February 2010, 23:28

The Happening was easily one of the noughties' top comedies.

championo · 9th February 2010, 03:50

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Originally Posted by Raoul

The previews for "The Last Airbender" look pretty good.

That is the thing about him though, every preview of his films looks so good and intriguing and then you go and sit down to watch and at the end it was the fucking trees releasing toxins. I mean what the fuck man?
I doubt I will be able to forgive him for the happenings. Poor Mark Wahlberg, he seems to get shitty movies.

Sir Matt · 9th February 2010, 04:05

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Originally Posted by Raoul

The previews for "The Last Airbender" look pretty good.

I remember going to see a movie, I don't remember which, and seeing the preview. The first part was interesting and then it says "M Night Shymalan." I went from thinking WTF to this is going to be ridiculously bad. My friends and I started laughing immediately. I guess that's an adequate perception of his films.

But seriously, Markie Mark and killer trees? What the hell?

BAMSOLA · 9th February 2010, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Hectic

Who knew there was an Unbreakable 2 in the works?

I hope not, because on current form he's probably gonna fuck that up.

Count Duckula · 9th February 2010, 11:13

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

Not sure about the mists ending is like but surely it can't be worse than Spielberg's War Of The Worlds.

I'll admit it's been a while since I saw that film, but doesn't it end in exactly the same way as the book? The aliens get human diseases and just die of their own accord? You can't blame Spielberg for that - blame H. G. Wells.

Wonder Pigeon · 9th February 2010, 12:16

Maybe he means the way that Cruise's son turns up at the end, totally fine, after having ran into a battlefield that was blown to bits by the aliens. For me that was one of the stupidest things I'd ever seen in a movie.

Count Duckula · 9th February 2010, 13:06

Oh yeh, I'd totally forgotten about that. It annoyed me so much in the cinema that I'd blanked it from my mind

Hectic · 9th February 2010, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Wonder Pigeon

Maybe he means the way that Cruise's son turns up at the end, totally fine, after having ran into a battlefield that was blown to bits by the aliens. For me that was one of the stupidest things I'd ever seen in a movie.

Yeah, his son made it home before his Dad, and in better condition too.

It's quite understandable really, he followed a road which went over a hill, despite there being a war there, giant alien killing machines and tanks, which all resulted in a giant explosion, which even the tanks couldn't survive, but it's alright, it's Tom Cruise's son.

Also, I have to question Cruise's judgement, where either of the children really worth saving? I don't think so.

Spammy · 9th February 2010, 14:50

I'd have killed the son myself, personally.

Hectic · 9th February 2010, 14:56

I wrote that before I posted that actual response.

I think I would have killed him at least three times.

1) Once when I was playing catch, little bastard thinks it's alright to smash my windows? Boom.

2) When he wants to run over the hill, you are a spastic child, in the middle of a alien war, which you can see is not working very well, so what do you want to do? That's right, you want to jump into the fight, despite having no training, or purpose, or reason to live. Boom.

3) When he lives at the end. Fuck off and die, I'm sorry, but no son of mine is going to show me up like that. He's not even a real Cruise and he's already trying to steal the day. Boom, headshot.

Wonder Pigeon · 9th February 2010, 18:23

If I was Cruise, my one regret would have been not being able to feed that prick to Tim Robbins' character.

So...yeah, Avatar The Last Airbender. As American cartoons go, its pretty good, up there with Samurai Jack imho. I still think this film will flop.

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8th February 2010, 09:06	#2 (permalink)
FreakyJim Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SolarX Posts: 2,612	He's hated more than liked because of false expectations that precede his films. Mostly because of false advertising. He does try to make deeper and meaningful mainstream films and for example imo Unbreakable is the best super hero movie I've ever seen. His take on the subject is quite original and well executed. Also the Village is an underrated drama/love story. But people mostly concentrate on things like the water "plot hole" in Signs, the twists and other meaningless crap, missing the point of his films entirely.

8th February 2010, 09:30	#3 (permalink)
BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow. Posts: 4,651	Agree with you on Unbreakable also The sixth sense deserves a mention. However the happening was a little bit shit in fairness as was lady in the water. Desperately needs to get back to form ASAP.

8th February 2010, 09:52	#4 (permalink)
Bury Red Backs Fergie, Yells Giggs! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 8,478	His films have gone down hill progressively from The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable, the first being an excellently made ghost story with a twist (not so rewatchable once you know the twist) and the second being a brilliant take on superhero films. Signs was watchable but flawed. The Village was OK but tried way too hard to have the big twist at the end like The Sixth Sense but unfortunately anyone but a moron would have got it by the half way point. Lady in the Water was complete shite and The Happening looked so bad I've not bothered watching it although my wife and daughter described it as OK with the crappest ending in the whole of cinematic history. He needs to stop trying to be an auteur and just get on with directing decent films because the harder he tries to recapture the element of surprise that made his first two films great the worse his output gets.

8th February 2010, 09:54	#5 (permalink)
032Devil First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 17,265	'Signs' was crap. His films leave you feeling empty (in a bad way).

8th February 2010, 11:39	#6 (permalink)
Raoul Administrator Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 30,112	The previews for "The Last Airbender" look pretty good.

8th February 2010, 13:09	#8 (permalink)
TuTuHimm Can definitely write definitely correctly Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Probably Posts: 2,494	He's the guy that is famous for making plot twists in his movies, like in The Sixth Sense where the guy with the hairpiece turns out to be Bruce Willis the whole time.

8th February 2010, 14:54	#11 (permalink)
AdZzUtd First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: I've Been away for a hot Minute, you know, on tour and that Posts: 8,997	I enjoyed Signs I really did, I mean this on the linear level - I enjoyed Mel Gibson's acting, I enjoyed the mystery and intrigue surrounding the aliens. Especially when they were at the house at night and on this basis Signs was for all intrinsic purposes a good film. However, if you watch the film with any semblance of sanity and intelligence it eventually becomes obvious that an Alien civilisation which can transverse the indeterminable vastness of the universe with the added capability of a fully blown military invasion tagged onto the end of this gigantic journey - that these Aliens, these highly educated beings might have noticed, nay, might have detected long before sight of Earth those two really, really big pools either side of the continents. I.e. The Atlantic and the Pacific, now, dare I say these beings will probably have come across this abundant substance somewhere else, you know, on their endless voyages through space and this particular liquid substance, known as water, was, well you know....highly acidic to their skin. The same substance which, any intelligent being would probably call our planet, "Ah look, theirs water." Not...."Aha, Earth, no water their boys...accept, those two really big blue pools of water." M. Night Shyamalan.

8th February 2010, 17:45	#13 (permalink)
Grinner fat gutted, hairy shouldered stinky arse Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kevin Costner - Prince of Cunts Posts: 13,384	If you've got a really shit idea like The Happening why would you fuck it up even more by casting Marky Mark as the lead? Or was he the only one dumb enough to think he could pull it off?

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AdZzUtd First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: I've Been away for a hot Minute, you know, on tour and that Posts: 8,997	Meh.

8th February 2010, 18:14	#17 (permalink)
dumbo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,656	I enjoyed Signs and The Village despite them containing a lot of stupid shit. Unbreakable and 6th sense were good films. So I still regard him as a good film maker (if you ignore some of the more stupid plot elements). I'm yet to see either Lady in the water or the Happening which seem to have destroyed any credibility he had.

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Count Duckula First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tali'Zorah vas Normandy. Posts: 14,189	I watched The Happening on the flight back to London from Buenos Aires, because there was fuck all else on. It was so unutterably shite, I can't even begin to do its shitness justice.

8th February 2010, 18:26	#20 (permalink)
Grinner fat gutted, hairy shouldered stinky arse Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kevin Costner - Prince of Cunts Posts: 13,384	The cunt also has the most annoying name of any director. How the fuck do you even pronounce it anyway?

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Spammy Being watched Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gloves are worn for traction primarily. Someone like Evra needs them for good throw-ins when it's raining or snowing or the ball is damp. Kaka, might wear them because he get's fouled a lot. Scraping and cutting his hands on frozen pitches Posts: 20,956	He gets a lot of stick because it's obvious that he does have some smatterings of talent as a film maker, but as a writer he seems to display a worrying lack of judgement and is devoid of any self-awareness. In The Lady And The Water or whatever it is called, he cast himself as a revolutionary writer who's writing was set to change the world. He also created a character that was a film critic and had him killed, which was fairly embarrassing.

8th February 2010, 22:20	#25 (permalink)
Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 41,652	The Sixth Sense was a very good film. Everything else has been almost unwatchably bad. Although Signs had some unintentional laughs.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29,599	Who knew there was an Unbreakable 2 in the works?

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Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 41,652	Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo

8th February 2010, 23:24	#28 (permalink)
Wonder Pigeon Pooping on people Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Forza Shelbourne Posts: 13,747	The cartoon he's adapting this new film from was recommended to me recently. Its pretty good, I mean, relatively speaking, it is a kid's cartoon. Shyamalan's movie doesn't seem like its being marketed with kids in mind though...my prediction is that it'll flop.

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Spammy Being watched Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gloves are worn for traction primarily. Someone like Evra needs them for good throw-ins when it's raining or snowing or the ball is damp. Kaka, might wear them because he get's fouled a lot. Scraping and cutting his hands on frozen pitches Posts: 20,956	He can build tension very well, then he just destroys it with some religious guff.

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Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,613	The Happening was easily one of the noughties' top comedies.

9th February 2010, 12:16	#35 (permalink)
Wonder Pigeon Pooping on people Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Forza Shelbourne Posts: 13,747	Maybe he means the way that Cruise's son turns up at the end, totally fine, after having ran into a battlefield that was blown to bits by the aliens. For me that was one of the stupidest things I'd ever seen in a movie.

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Count Duckula First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tali'Zorah vas Normandy. Posts: 14,189	Oh yeh, I'd totally forgotten about that. It annoyed me so much in the cinema that I'd blanked it from my mind

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Spammy Being watched Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gloves are worn for traction primarily. Someone like Evra needs them for good throw-ins when it's raining or snowing or the ball is damp. Kaka, might wear them because he get's fouled a lot. Scraping and cutting his hands on frozen pitches Posts: 20,956	I'd have killed the son myself, personally.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29,599	I wrote that before I posted that actual response. I think I would have killed him at least three times. 1) Once when I was playing catch, little bastard thinks it's alright to smash my windows? Boom. 2) When he wants to run over the hill, you are a spastic child, in the middle of a alien war, which you can see is not working very well, so what do you want to do? That's right, you want to jump into the fight, despite having no training, or purpose, or reason to live. Boom. 3) When he lives at the end. Fuck off and die, I'm sorry, but no son of mine is going to show me up like that. He's not even a real Cruise and he's already trying to steal the day. Boom, headshot.

9th February 2010, 18:23	#40 (permalink)
Wonder Pigeon Pooping on people Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Forza Shelbourne Posts: 13,747	If I was Cruise, my one regret would have been not being able to feed that prick to Tim Robbins' character. So...yeah, Avatar The Last Airbender. As American cartoons go, its pretty good, up there with Samurai Jack imho. I still think this film will flop.