Newsgroups

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 18:58

I consider myself decent with all things technical, but newsgroups are on another level!

Does anyone use them? Whats the cheapest newsgroup that does unlimited dl, and lets you pay with paypal or maestro? Also is it really worth it?

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by malcolm31337

I consider myself decent with all things technical, but newsgroups are on another level!

Does anyone use them? Whats the cheapest newsgroup that does unlimited dl, and lets you pay with paypal or maestro? Also is it really worth it?

I use then Malc.

I'll tell you what give me a hour or so and I'll knock together a little guide for you.

I'm off to eat my tea right now.

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 19:06

I sent you a pm with some links mate

duffer · 7th May 2008, 19:06

I'd be interested also. Torrents are doing my head in at the moment.

WeasteDevil · 7th May 2008, 19:21

Blame the non seeders for that!

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 19:58

First off you'll never use torrents again if you get yourself into newsgroups, they are, plain and simple, the dogs dangleys. I have a 20mb connection and I average download speeds of between 15mb to 18mb most of the time, it obviously drops and rises as to the traffic using your bandwidth, but you will use the entire bandwidth available on your connection at that time with this service.

First off you need a news provider. The best one is Giganews and has the best retention of 200 days, which means you can download binaries (the term used for the movies, music, apps etc that you can download) that have been posted up to 200 days old.

http://www.giganews.com/

The costs involved depend on your download requirements. There are others out there if you search for newsgroup provider and you may find a cheaper option that suits your requirements better, but the service that Giganews provides is top notch and well worth the expense if you download a lot.

Next you need a download client like you would use for downloading torrents, I use Grabit:

http://www.shemes.com/

It's a free licence and works just fine. If you want to pay you can use Newsleecher:

http://www.newsleecher.com/

To be honest though from my experience Grabit works just fine, so I see no reason to pay for one.

Lastly you need to register with a site that catalogues all the binaries into a nice convienient layout for you to simply click and start downloading. I mainly use NZBMatrix:

http://nzbmatrix.com/index.php

This is a great site and is free for a limited service, you will get limited retention though so I would suggest making the one off donation to the site, it was $8 when I signed up, and then you get the full 200 days retention that Giganews also provides.

Another good one is Newzbin

http://v3.newzbin.com/

This one probably has more content than NZBMatrix, but isn't as well laid out for my liking and you have to pay a small amout for the use, but this can be done instantly whenever you see something you want to download from there that maybe isn't on Matrix (rare), by buying credit for a certain period of time.

That's it.

Once you have signed up to your newsprovider, Giganews for example, you will be given your account details, host address and password which you then input into your Client (Grabit or Newsleecher) and away you go.

I can give you more detailed help if the need arises on the setup, but it is fairly straight forward really so I see no real issues.

I've never looked back since my mate introduced me to this service.

Hope this is of some help, if you need any further help just give me a yell.

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 20:04

Thanks RedNome, and Ivor. Great work.

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 20:08

Is SSL necessary?

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:09

ive used them all and i prefer rapidshare premium.

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

ive used them all and i prefer rapidshare premium.

rapidshare premium, interesting. it is much cheaper than newsgroups. but do you get most files on rapidshare?

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by malcolm31337

Is SSL necessary?

Not really sure what that is, I'm on the Platinum service, so unlimited downloads and no SSL. If you want unlimited go for that imo.

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by malcolm31337

rapidshare premium, interesting. it is much cheaper than newsgroups. but do you get most files on rapidshare?

its free as far as im concerned and you get everything on rapidshare movies, tv shows,sports, movies,software,ebooks etc...

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

its free as far as im concerned and you get everything on rapidshare movies, tv shows,sports, movies,software,ebooks etc...

how is it free?! dont you have to have a premium account?

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

its free as far as im concerned and you get everything on rapidshare movies, tv shows,sports, movies,software,ebooks etc...

As you do on newsgroups.

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 20:22

SSL is a type of encryption so it is far safer to have it although newgroups in general are the safest anyway I believe.

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

ive used them all and i prefer rapidshare premium.

Newsgroups are much much quicker. But if I was getting rapidshare for free (you porn Baron) I would probably use them.

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivor Ballokov

SSL is a type of encryption so it is far safer to have it although newgroups in general are the safest anyway I believe.

Never had a problem without it so far.

Never had a virus through it either or any type of malware.

It is by far the safest form of downloading on the net for me.

BezsMaracas · 7th May 2008, 20:24

SSL is one of the main benefits of going with Giganews...

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by BezsMaracas

SSL is one of the main benefits of going with Giganews...

What exactly does it do?

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNome

Never had a problem without it so far.

Never had a virus through it either or any type of malware.

It is by far the safest form of downloading on the net for me.

Sorry I meant as in safety from the feds, jack bauer or whoever it is they have policing these things.

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:32

ssl is used by rapidshare also

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:32

I think I may add this to my account after reading up on it.

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

ssl is used by rapidshare also

What kind of speeds do you get with rapidshare premium? Is it any quicker than a free account?

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivor Ballokov

What kind of speeds do you get with rapidshare premium? Is it any quicker than a free account?

ive got a slow connection and i download at a speed of 80kb/sec thourgh the normal browser but i get speeds of 300 kb/sec through rapidshare...i suggest if you use rapidshare then use it with internet download manager as it increases its speed more.

its way faster than the free one.

Ivor Ballokov · 7th May 2008, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

ive got a slow connection and i download at a speed of 80kb/sec thourgh the normal browser but i get speeds of 300 kb/sec through rapidshare...i suggest if you use rapidshare then use it with internet download manager as it increases its speed more.

its way faster than the free one.

I'm on 20mb and get about 23mb download speeds most of the time (traffic shaping kills me).

Newsgroups will use the full capability of your speed i'm not sure whether rapidshare will.

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

ive got a slow connection and i download at a speed of 80kb/sec thourgh the normal browser but i get speeds of 300 kb/sec through rapidshare...i suggest if you use rapidshare then use it with internet download manager as it increases its speed more.

its way faster than the free one.

Is that your full bandwidth or is that what Rapidshare cap you at.

For instance would I get 2000kb/s from Rapidshare as I do on Newsgroups?

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:47

thats my cheap isp connection

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by VidaRed

thats my cheap isp connection

The question still stands though, which is, does Radipshare allow full use of your download speed supplied by your ISP?

VidaRed · 7th May 2008, 20:52

yes it does.

RedNome · 7th May 2008, 21:07

How much is the premium account for Radipshare?

malcolm31337 · 7th May 2008, 21:16

about 55 euros for a year. It seems to be winning for me...!

7th May 2008, 18:58	#1 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07...08! CHAMPIONS! Posts: 3,485	Newsgroups I consider myself decent with all things technical, but newsgroups are on another level! Does anyone use them? Whats the cheapest newsgroup that does unlimited dl, and lets you pay with paypal or maestro? Also is it really worth it?

7th May 2008, 19:58	#6 (permalink)
RedNome Cnut Rating: 9(conservative) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. Posts: 10,863	Guide to using newsgroups. First off you'll never use torrents again if you get yourself into newsgroups, they are, plain and simple, the dogs dangleys. I have a 20mb connection and I average download speeds of between 15mb to 18mb most of the time, it obviously drops and rises as to the traffic using your bandwidth, but you will use the entire bandwidth available on your connection at that time with this service. First off you need a news provider. The best one is Giganews and has the best retention of 200 days, which means you can download binaries (the term used for the movies, music, apps etc that you can download) that have been posted up to 200 days old. http://www.giganews.com/ The costs involved depend on your download requirements. There are others out there if you search for newsgroup provider and you may find a cheaper option that suits your requirements better, but the service that Giganews provides is top notch and well worth the expense if you download a lot. Next you need a download client like you would use for downloading torrents, I use Grabit: http://www.shemes.com/ It's a free licence and works just fine. If you want to pay you can use Newsleecher: http://www.newsleecher.com/ To be honest though from my experience Grabit works just fine, so I see no reason to pay for one. Lastly you need to register with a site that catalogues all the binaries into a nice convienient layout for you to simply click and start downloading. I mainly use NZBMatrix: http://nzbmatrix.com/index.php This is a great site and is free for a limited service, you will get limited retention though so I would suggest making the one off donation to the site, it was $8 when I signed up, and then you get the full 200 days retention that Giganews also provides. Another good one is Newzbin http://v3.newzbin.com/ This one probably has more content than NZBMatrix, but isn't as well laid out for my liking and you have to pay a small amout for the use, but this can be done instantly whenever you see something you want to download from there that maybe isn't on Matrix (rare), by buying credit for a certain period of time. That's it. Once you have signed up to your newsprovider, Giganews for example, you will be given your account details, host address and password which you then input into your Client (Grabit or Newsleecher) and away you go. I can give you more detailed help if the need arises on the setup, but it is fairly straight forward really so I see no real issues. I've never looked back since my mate introduced me to this service. Hope this is of some help, if you need any further help just give me a yell.

7th May 2008, 19:06	#3 (permalink)
Ivor Ballokov Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: old south wales Posts: 2,860	I sent you a pm with some links mate

7th May 2008, 19:06	#4 (permalink)
duffer Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chelsea fan. Posts: 2,162	I'd be interested also. Torrents are doing my head in at the moment.

7th May 2008, 19:21	#5 (permalink)
WeasteDevil Hand Solo Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Castellón de la Plana Posts: 57,678	Blame the non seeders for that!

7th May 2008, 20:04	#7 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07...08! CHAMPIONS! Posts: 3,485	Thanks RedNome, and Ivor. Great work.

7th May 2008, 20:08	#8 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07...08! CHAMPIONS! Posts: 3,485	Is SSL necessary?

7th May 2008, 20:09	#9 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,540	ive used them all and i prefer rapidshare premium.

7th May 2008, 20:22	#15 (permalink)
Ivor Ballokov Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: old south wales Posts: 2,860	SSL is a type of encryption so it is far safer to have it although newgroups in general are the safest anyway I believe.

7th May 2008, 20:24	#18 (permalink)
BezsMaracas Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Stalyvegas Posts: 3,991	SSL is one of the main benefits of going with Giganews...

7th May 2008, 20:32	#21 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,540	ssl is used by rapidshare also

7th May 2008, 20:32	#22 (permalink)
RedNome Cnut Rating: 9(conservative) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. Posts: 10,863	I think I may add this to my account after reading up on it.

7th May 2008, 20:47	#27 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,540	thats my cheap isp connection

7th May 2008, 20:52	#29 (permalink)
VidaRed First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,540	yes it does.

7th May 2008, 21:07	#30 (permalink)
RedNome Cnut Rating: 9(conservative) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. Posts: 10,863	How much is the premium account for Radipshare?

7th May 2008, 21:16	#31 (permalink)
malcolm31337 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 93, 94, 96, 97, 99, 00, 01, 03, 07...08! CHAMPIONS! Posts: 3,485	about 55 euros for a year. It seems to be winning for me...!