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Old 6th February 2008, 18:27   #1 (permalink)
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PS3 Won't play discs.

Whilst playing FIFA online the disc drive started making strange sounds. Ejected and restarted but the PS3 doesn't recognize that there's a disc in the console. It's the same with regular DVDs and CDs. Seems the optical drive is knackered.
Problem is I can't for the life of me find the feckin receipt.
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:30   #2 (permalink)
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Same thing happened me

Find the receipt and take it back
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:32   #3 (permalink)
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Searched everywhere but can't find the damn receipt anywhere. Sony won't repair it without one right?
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:34   #4 (permalink)
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Problem is I can't for the life of me find the feckin receipt.
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Find the receipt and take it back
Good advice Pert.

Take it back and say it was a christmas present, think that may work.
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:37   #5 (permalink)
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:37   #6 (permalink)
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:38   #7 (permalink)
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Sounds like the same old problem from Ps2's. Shoddy disc reading laser?
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:42   #8 (permalink)
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Sounds like the same old problem from Ps2's. Shoddy disc reading laser?
I think the whole optical drive is broken, when a disc is loaded nothing happens, the disc never even starts to spin.
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Not if it's opened.
but it's broken so they should.
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Old 6th February 2008, 21:59   #10 (permalink)
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Searched everywhere but can't find the damn receipt anywhere. Sony won't repair it without one right?
I had the same problem with my PS3. Call Sony on 08705 998877 explain the situation and i'm 99% sure they will sort it out for you.

They will need a code from the back panel of the ps3 and the date you purchased the console (To check its still in waranty i guess). I didn't get asked for a receipt by the way.
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Old 6th February 2008, 22:01   #11 (permalink)
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Looks like the stats are misleading.

Where's Weaste to clear this up?
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Old 6th February 2008, 22:28   #12 (permalink)
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Another PS3 bites the dust.
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Old 6th February 2008, 23:53   #13 (permalink)
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Another PS3 bites the dust.
Maybe, but far fewer than the 4-5 million or so XB360s that have already done so.

I really don't understand some of you XBox (Microsoft) lovers. The fact that there are serious design flaws with the 360, and that it was designed and manufactured to very low standards, which is not disputable by any means, means that you have to jump in every time there is some issue with a PS3 in some vain attempt to try and place Microsoft in some illusionary light.

It's quite simply ridiculous fanboyism to the extreme. Yep, the BD drive in this case has probably gone pop, it's the most likely thing to go pop for several different reasons (Sony made or not), and none are through design or manufacturing problems outside of the norm.
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Old 6th February 2008, 23:56   #14 (permalink)
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Sounds like the same old problem from Ps2's. Shoddy disc reading laser?
It has nothing to do with the problems experienced on early PS2s, where cheap drives were put in. The drive in the PS3 is not cheap by any means.
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Maybe, but far fewer than the 4-5 million or so XB360s that have already done so.

I really don't understand some of you XBox (Microsoft) lovers. The fact that there are serious design flaws with the 360, and that it was designed and manufactured to very low standards, which is not disputable by any means, means that you have to jump in every time there is some issue with a PS3 in some vain attempt to try and place Microsoft in some illusionary light.

It's quite simply ridiculous fanboyism to the extreme. Yep, the BD drive in this case has probably gone pop, it's the most likely thing to go pop for several different reasons (Sony made or not), and none are through design or manufacturing problems outside of the norm.


You've done that loads of times Weaste!
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Fanboys of all kinds should be shot. I'd like to take every console in the world and burn it on a pyre.

There should be only PCs.
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Find the receipt and take it back
And me, mine was within the 31 days return to shop period, otherwise your sending it off to sony for a reconditioned swap
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Old 7th February 2008, 09:50   #18 (permalink)
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You've done that loads of times Weaste!
Done what? Laughed at an XB360 breaking in the same way that I laugh at the way it is shoddily designed and manufactured? The latter is true, so the former is to be expected.
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Running Windows?
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Fanboys of all kinds should be shot. I'd like to take every console in the world and burn it on a pyre.

There should be only PCs.
Why

I have both, the PS3 is great for quite a few games which when converted to the PC, suck.
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Old 7th February 2008, 09:57   #21 (permalink)
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And me, mine was within the 31 days return to shop period, otherwise your sending it off to sony for a reconditioned swap
I've never bought a piece of electronics equipment of significant value without also paying for an extended warranty, even with my digital camera that cost 500 quid, it only cost another 40 quid for 3 extra years. They either fix it or give you a new one. Electronics are far too fiddly and complex nowadays, on average 2-5 people in 100 will get a faulty unit of whatever particular product.

In this case however, if it's only the optical drive that has gone pop, they might simply put a new one in and return the same unit. I'm not sure.

I would like to know however if it's all types of disks the original poster is having trouble with, or just BDs.
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Old 7th February 2008, 10:01   #22 (permalink)
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Running Windows?

I think you would love the 360 but you are too anti microsoft to admit it.

I have a ps3, wii and a 360 and the 360 is still the better console but my 6 year old prefers the ps3 my 4 year prefers the wii.

Online gaming on the 360 in my opinion is well better, and it's that what i like the most.

My mate gaz had his 360 chipped and the cunts banned it, lol.

Hitler has had his banned too!
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He he, I've seen that Hitler vid before.

I've said on many occasions that I will buy an XB360 when I'm convinced that they have the failure rate at normal industry wide levels.
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I have a ps3, wii and a 360 and the 360 is still the better console
The only thing that it still has going for it is a larger software library. It won't even have that come the years end.
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I've never bought a piece of electronics equipment of significant value without also paying for an extended warranty, even with my digital camera that cost 500 quid, it only cost another 40 quid for 3 extra years. They either fix it or give you a new one. Electronics are far too fiddly and complex nowadays, on average 2-5 people in 100 will get a faulty unit of whatever particular product.

In this case however, if it's only the optical drive that has gone pop, they might simply put a new one in and return the same unit. I'm not sure.

I would like to know however if it's all types of disks the original poster is having trouble with, or just BDs.
There was a batch of PS3's released with a certain type of BD player, after applying the divx patch it replaced some drivers that were apparantley faulty causing all kinds of instability with playback, or so i was told by the dude at sony i spoke with.
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There was a batch of PS3's released with a certain type of BD player, after applying the divx patch it replaced some drivers that were apparantley faulty causing all kinds of instability with playback, or so i was told by the dude at sony i spoke with.
I can image that there was. Who was it that upgraded to 2.10 and their drive stopped working?

It wasn't the Divx part of 2.10 that did it IMO, it was upgrading of Blu-ray to profile 1.1.
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I can image that there was. Who was it that upgraded to 2.10 and their drive stopped working?

It wasn't the Divx part of 2.10 that did it IMO, it was upgrading of Blu-ray to profile 1.1.
Me

And i've no idea how it works but the tech support guy i spoke too for once was quite informative of what the caused the problem.
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Why

I have both, the PS3 is great for quite a few games which when converted to the PC, suck.

such as?
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Why

I have both, the PS3 is great for quite a few games which when converted to the PC, suck.
I am yet to play a game that is better on the PS3/XB360 than on my PC. I'm not saying there isn't, but I'm yet to play one (especially graphically).

The last conversion that shocked me, was Resi 4 on the PC. Truly awful. The other games that wind me up, are merely sequels that have been dumbed down for the console crowd, like Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and Bioshock.

Oh and PES on the PS3 is a shit port. I know I'm overly picky about these things, but that's just wrong.
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Indeed. Although I'd let Weaste live, because and least he backs up his fanboyism with top knowledge.


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The COD4 port didnt strike me as all that good, MP was better on the PC but single player seemed insanely easy compared to the PS3.

The grand theft auto's on all of the PS formats have kicked the PC's ass hands down imo, especially for gameplay.

Resident evil as well, PS > PC.

I expect the latest releases of GTA and RES to play better on the PS3 as well.

I might have been a bit quick to say PS3, i more meant playstation in general.
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I'm not saying there isn't, but I'm yet to play one (especially graphically).
Well obviously, but it depends on what type of PC you have does it not? A top of the range G80 board could chew up and shit out both RSX and Xenos together in one go, the amount of AA and AF that can be applied is well out of the reach of the two console GPUs. God knows what a G90 will be able to do.
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The COD4 port didnt strike me as all that good, MP was better on the PC but single player seemed insanely easy compared to the PS3.
I've not played it on the PS3, how is it better?


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The grand theft auto's on all of the PS formats have kicked the PC's ass hands down imo, especially for gameplay.
In your opinion. Graphically, there's no contest and if you play with a gamepad, the gameplay is identical. Plus the framerate is a hell of a lot better on the PC too.

So how are the PSX versions better?


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Resident evil as well, PS > PC.
In what way? The only one that is better is RE4, but then it is a convert to PS2, then converted from that to PC (Which was a fucking disgrace, since the GCN/Wii versions were superior and are closer to the PC in terms of development and texture quality than the PS2).


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I expect the latest releases of GTA and RES to play better on the PS3 as well.
Again, how? Graphically it won't be better and gameplay-wise you can use PS3 and XB360 pads on the PC, if that's what you mean.


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In which case, you are even more wrong. In my opinion, of course.
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Well obviously, but it depends on what type of PC you have does it not? A top of the range G80 board could chew up and shit out both RSX and Xenos together in one go, the amount of AA and AF that can be applied is well out of the reach of the two console GPUs. God knows what a G90 will be able to do.
Indeed, but is that not the point in comparison? I'm not strictly coming down on the PC side, but if someone is going to say about conversions (which, if you want to be really to the point, is a bit of a mis-term), then that's a debate close to my heart


Oh and for the record, my PC is much better, and I bought it a year ago for about a grand. Factor in the cost of a 19" HD t.v to get the proper quality out of a PS3 and XB360 a year ago and the difference in cost is negligible.
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I've not played it on the PS3, how is it better?


In your opinion. Graphically, there's no contest and if you play with a gamepad, the gameplay is identical. Plus the framerate is a hell of a lot better on the PC too.

So how are the PSX versions better?


In what way? The only one that is better is RE4, but then it is a convert to PS2, then converted from that to PC (Which was a fucking disgrace, since the GCN/Wii versions were superior and are closer to the PC in terms of development and texture quality than the PS2).


Again, how? Graphically it won't be better and gameplay-wise you can use PS3 and XB360 pads on the PC, if that's what you mean.


In which case, you are even more wrong. In my opinion, of course.
Its all down to personal opinion. I've always been a huge fan of the GTA series right from day one, i started playing them on the PC as i didnt have a playstation at the time and its actually the game that got me to buy one after trying it on a mates.

I havent tried the PC version with a gamepad, just a mouse (perhaps i should?) but anyway whatever my reasons for it i dont even know necessarily what they are, its just a case of, i prefer it on the PSX.

Don't get me wrong, im an avid PC gamer, more so online games and i totally understand the PC>PS3 in terms of overall performance but some games which i've held true to my console heart would be GTA and the RES series, of which for me neither lived upto it when ported imo, more so playability than anything else.

Perhaps im still suffering from the wow factor with the PS3?

As for COD4, i've got both. I got COD4 on the PS3 for Christmas and i loved the single player element to it, i was never one for the FPS style game on the console as i tend to struggle a bit with the aim and movement having played so much online FPS with the mouse yet with COD4 i felt right at home for some reason, same with GOW on the xbox360 actually. Anyway COD4 MP on the PS3 seriously disapointed so i thought i'd give it a bash on the PC, so i bought the game, graphically it doesnt match up imo and i've got my TV and Monitor sat side by side, so i have tested it. The single player is stupidly easy, but that could be me just being a seasoned gamer and the MP blows it away on the PC, brilliant compared to PS3, so each version has its up and downsides i guess.

Anyway enough ramblings. Everyone will prefer one or the other for whatever reason.

The only three reasons i bought my PS3 was to play FIFA08 and because i knew GTA and RES were out early 2008, not long to go now either
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Oh and for the record, my PC is much better, and I bought it a year ago for about a grand. Factor in the cost of a 19" HD t.v to get the proper quality out of a PS3 and XB360 a year ago and the difference in cost is negligible.
Many people however don't want a PC sat next to their TV in the living room, and many do not like playing games on a PC. They are noisy fuckers as well. Also, if you want to play games on a large screen - say 42" 1080p, you would have to shell out for that for the PC in any case.

Out of curiosity, what GPU is in your PC?
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Its all down to personal opinion. I've always been a huge fan of the GTA series right from day one, i started playing them on the PC as i didnt have a playstation at the time and its actually the game that got me to buy one after trying it on a mates.
Good start!


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I havent tried the PC version with a gamepad, just a mouse (perhaps i should?) but anyway whatever my reasons for it i dont even know necessarily what they are, its just a case of, i prefer it on the PSX.

Don't get me wrong, im an avid PC gamer, more so online games and i totally understand the PC>PS3 in terms of overall performance but some games which i've held true to my console heart would be GTA and the RES series, of which for me neither lived upto it when ported imo, more so playability than anything else.
But, what about the playability is it? They are identical!

If anything, the XBox version of the GTA from 3 upwards are superior to both in terms of playability because they offer true analogue support.


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Perhaps im still suffering from the wow factor with the PS3?
I think you are. It happens! For example, nothing on any of the systems matches up to Mario Galaxy in true terms of a game in my opinion, right now. It has the lot.

Maybe in a year or so, when a similar game comes out, I'll rescind my reaction.


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As for COD4, i've got both. I got COD4 on the PS3 for Christmas and i loved the single player element to it, i was never one for the FPS style game on the console as i tend to struggle a bit with the aim and movement having played so much online FPS with the mouse yet with COD4 i felt right at home for some reason, same with GOW on the xbox360 actually.
GOW on the PC is a better game in all respects. However, I agree, I prefer it on the 360. Same with Halo.

Those are console games, geared for the console and are better played on the console, it does happen, and both answer my original question. Nice one


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Anyway COD4 MP on the PS3 seriously disapointed so i thought i'd give it a bash on the PC, so i bought the game, graphically it doesnt match up imo and i've got my TV and Monitor sat side by side, so i have tested it.
As Weaste pointed out, it depends on your PC standard. Mine was shit hot a year ago, and is above average by todays standard and the PS3 or 360 on a decent HD TV can't compete.


[quote[The single player is stupidly easy, but that could be me just being a seasoned gamer and the MP blows it away on the PC, brilliant compared to PS3, so each version has its up and downsides i guess.[/quote]

Unfortunately, going by reactions, COD4 is another one of the depressingly long list of games that are made Console-orientated. The PC version is identical, so by pure smoothness and motion the mouse version will always be easy to control.

The days were, when Console versions were actually the more difficult ones, where Sega/Nintendo were only really interested in the Japanese market and those guys were considered superior, thus the games were always much more difficult.

I hate to say it, but the Xbox and the American influence heavily dumbed down the games. That's not racist or prejudiced, it's just a fact. You can ask most all Uk developers and even a lot of the US ones (like the legendary John Carmack), they will all agree that both the PS1 first and then the XBOX changed the industry and made it much more difficult to produce works of genuine quality and freshness.


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Anyway enough ramblings. Everyone will prefer one or the other for whatever reason.
Yep, they will. Just like I always prefered Snes versions of games over MegaDrive, even though I owned both and knew the Snes equivalents were more prone to slow-downs!


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The only three reasons i bought my PS3 was to play FIFA08 and because i knew GTA and RES were out early 2008, not long to go now either
GTA4 I'm not so bothered about. The last few have been dissapointing to me, however the new Resident Evil is really interesting me. I was never that bothered by them until 4, now 5 should puch it one further!
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i totally understand the PC>PS3 in terms of overall performance
Overall performance I dispute. Graphical performance I do not. The benefit the PC will always have is that it's upgradeable, has large amounts of RAM, and huge economies of scale and competition in the market keeping prices down, although the competition aspect does not really apply to the GPUs on offer.

This is a bitch:

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/336262...d/Product.html
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Damn you and all the multiquoting, red indian chief

To summarise, its just one of those things where each individual is different, regardless of fact, you prefer one or the other and for me, GTA and RES series are all about console, or vice versa.

I'm glad you mention carmack, i've spent the last 14 years of my online life addicted to his fking online fps games


Edit: i would have quoted you but you've done that many, when i try and quote reply it b0rks.
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Overall performance I dispute. Graphical performance I do not. The benefit the PC will always have is that it's upgradeable, has large amounts of RAM, and huge economies of scale and competition in the market keeping prices down, although the competition aspect does not really apply to the GPUs on offer.

This is a bitch:

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/336262...d/Product.html
Thats pretty much what i was getting at, however badly i worded it

My PC by standards now is average, dual core, 2gb ram and a 7950 GT (512mb ddr) however im free to upgrade it whenever i want, the PS3 will always the same.

Nice graphics card too, nice price as well!
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