The Redcafe Movie review thread

Hammer Michael · 20th November 2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

Frankenheimer's original(1962). Remakes are pointless.

After this, watch Seconds by the same director.

Great call, Spooney! Haven't seen that for years!!!

Spoonatov · 20th November 2007, 20:48

Frankenheimer's a strange one. He's made some classics such as Seconds, Manchunian Candidate and a couple of others that I haven't seen, but a whole host of tripe and all.

Hammer Michael · 20th November 2007, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Salvation

Manchurian Candidate will be the first time I'd be watching Sinatra act

Salv - Sinatra is excellent in a small-budget Film Noir called Suddenly...I think I put it on Spooney's list of recommended Film Noir's.

He plays an assassin who turns up in a small town to kill the President who is making a stop-over. Sinatra asked for it to be withdrawn for a period of years out of respect for JFK.

Great little thriller.

Spoonatov · 20th November 2007, 20:51

The Man with a Golden Arm. Is that any good, Hammer? Apparently Sinatra's excellent in it.

(and I'll have to go through your list)

Hammer Michael · 20th November 2007, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

The Man with a Golden Arm. Is that any good, Hammer? Apparently Sinatra's excellent in it.

(and I'll have to go through your list)

Christ I forgot that one! Yeah good film...doesn't really pull any pinches for the time it was made. Fucking awesome jazz soundtrack as well!

Spoonatov · 20th November 2007, 20:55

I'll stick it on my list then.

Spoonatov · 20th November 2007, 20:59

'Ace in the Hole'. I think The Simpsons parodied it.

UBERScholes · 21st November 2007, 01:48

Ace in the Hole is a class film, can't remember if The Simpsons did it though

The_Red_Hope · 21st November 2007, 05:04

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Originally Posted by UBERScholes

Ace in the Hole is a class film, can't remember if The Simpsons did it though

Radio Bart - Season 3. Bart falls down a well and the media circus and that ensues.

reelworld · 22nd November 2007, 07:07

I'll be seeing these movies next month in a movie festival:
- Into The Wild
- No Country for Old Men
- Shake Hands with the Devil
- The Year My Parents went on Vacation.
- 4 Months, 3 Years, and 2 Days.

Hammer Michael · 22nd November 2007, 10:17

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Originally Posted by reelworld

I'll be seeing these movies next month in a movie festival:
- Into The Wild
- No Country for Old Men
- Shake Hands with the Devil
- The Year My Parents went on Vacation.
- 4 Months, 3 Years, and 2 Days.

Yes, definatley want to see this, as a big Coen Brothers fan...

Any information on the other four that you know of?

noodlehair · 22nd November 2007, 13:14

Fantastic 4 - The rise of the silver surfer

Plot: Bloke who looks like a giant spoon digs loads of holes in the ground (possibly with his head) for no apparent reason, gets captured by the army, bloke named victor goes a bit mental, spoonface is released and saves the world...from himself.

This could have been cool. Instead the incredibly cheesy characters, equally cheesy sub plot, and elastic man's incredibly punchable face, made it an effort to sit through.

4/10 - Better than Wayne Bridge, but not by much

Spoonatov · 22nd November 2007, 19:35

On the Waterfront was very good, jah! Brando was brilliant, then again he really was brilliant. I taught him everything he knew about acting.

Spoonatov · 22nd November 2007, 19:52

Is 'Angels with Dirty Faces' any good?

Hammer Michael · 22nd November 2007, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

Is 'Angels with Dirty Faces' any good?

Good example of the Gangster films that Warner Brothers were famous for in the 30s and 40s. It has a definate moral message with the ending (which obviously I won't give away!).

Another good Cagney gangster film from the same period is The Roaring Twenties (Warner Brothers again). I think this was made two years later.

Obviously White Heat is the Cagney film you have to see from this period...very famous ending, as well.

Spoonatov · 22nd November 2007, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Hammer Michael

Good example of the Gangster films that Warner Brothers were famous for in the 30s and 40s. It has a definate moral message with the ending (which obviously I won't give away!).

Another good Cagney gangster film from the same period is The Roaring Twenties (Warner Brothers again). I think this was made two years later.

Obviously White Heat is the Cagney film you have to see from this period...very famous ending, as well.

Stick them on my to see list.

As for Brando. Best actor ever?

Hammer Michael · 22nd November 2007, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

Stick them on my to see list.

As for Brando. Best actor ever?

I can't think of many that can beat him...perhaps de Niro in anything directed by Scorsese runs him close.

But then Welles was no slouch in front of the camera, either.

reelworld · 23rd November 2007, 03:54

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Originally Posted by Hammer Michael

Yes, definatley want to see this, as a big Coen Brothers fan...

Any information on the other four that you know of?

The Year My Parents Went on Vacation is a Brazil movie about a boy whose parents left him due to the political issues in 1970 Brazil. The boy was a football fan and the backdrop of the movie was the 1970 World Cup. I'm a sucker for anything football-related.

Shake Hands with the Devil is basically Hotel Rwanda from a UN Peacekeeping officer point of view.

Into The Wild is a Sean Penn movie about an athlete student who just have about everything, money, fame, and all that but left it all behind to live in the wild.

4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days. is a Romanian movie about a woman who wanted to help his friend to get an abortion when her pregnancy reached 4 months, 3 weeks, and 2 days. Set in the 1980s when abortion was deemed illegal in Romania at the time.

Most if not all have been getting good reviews. I hope I can get tickets!

Spoonatov · 23rd November 2007, 08:18

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Originally Posted by Hammer Michael

I can't think of many that can beat him...perhaps de Niro in anything directed by Scorsese runs him close.

But then Welles was no slouch in front of the camera, either.

I'd have Pacino as number two then De Niro. Welles had a lot of on screen presence.

M160RA · 23rd November 2007, 08:31

Pacino's a good actor, but I think he's one of those actors who always seems to get typecast into a similar kind of role ala Morgan Freeman.

Wibble · 23rd November 2007, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

It was shit, though. Stick some nice effects in and a totally silly storyline by a director with no idea about the subject he's trying to portray and bingo, the public(generally the people who have had no addiction whatsoever to anything let to alone drugs) will love it. Crash was another, racism for fuckwits.

I haven't seen RFAD but I totally agree with your view on Crash.

It was so patronising as to be offensive.

Spoonatov · 23rd November 2007, 15:31

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Originally Posted by M160RA

Pacino's a good actor, but I think he's one of those actors who always seems to get typecast into a similar kind of role ala Morgan Freeman.

Not at all. Freeman always plays the same character, whereas Pacino's done very different roles in films such as Dog Day Afternoon, Scent of a Woman, Scarface, Godfather 1&2, Merchant of Venice etc etc. One of the most versatile actors ever, whereas Freeman's one dimensional, not a character actor like Pacino and Brando, obviously.

Spoonatov · 23rd November 2007, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Wibble

I haven't seen RFAD but I totally agree with your view on Crash.

It was so patronising as to be offensive.

Yep. Requiem was just as bad. I have no idea why people likes these types of films.

Salvation · 23rd November 2007, 16:09

Spooner, use some of our powers being in the panel an' all to automatically disqualify them movies from the list...them and the few other mentioned in the other thread

olesmyhero · 23rd November 2007, 21:04

The Devil Wears Prada. I was subjected to watching this yesterday with the missus and her mom. Anne Hathaway is quite doable.

M160RA · 23rd November 2007, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Spoonez el Grande

Not at all. Freeman always plays the same character, whereas Pacino's done very different roles in films such as Dog Day Afternoon, Scent of a Woman, Scarface, Godfather 1&2, Merchant of Venice etc etc. One of the most versatile actors ever, whereas Freeman's one dimensional, not a character actor like Pacino and Brando, obviously.

You're right. I shouldn't give the impression that Pacino's one dimensional or unable to play diverse roles. I guess I made the comment because whenever he's in a fit of rage on screen, it's a typical Pacino scene. I think he plays different roles quite well e.g Michael Corleone, Scarface, Serpico, Lefty, etc, but it's only when he's acting out anger he becomes Pacino again. I guess it's something that can be said of most actors - they usually tend to act out certain emotions with a signature style. Nonetheless, I admit that the Freeman comparison is a bad one.

Spoonatov · 24th November 2007, 11:27

He's like that in most of his post 90's films. I don't recall him ranting and raving in his heyday, but all he seems to do thesedays is shout on screen, which I must confess that I don;t mind, but it's not brilliant acting. De Niro's even more lamer, though. Made some awful films 90's onwards. That said, they've both made their mark, and will be regarded as two of the best actors, ever.

Salvation · 24th November 2007, 11:35

Jacob's Ladder - Brilliant scrip let down by some poor acting. Unjust really

Salvation · 24th November 2007, 11:36

Oh, Hammer Michael, I'll check out the other Sinatra movie as well, thanks.

Spoonatov · 24th November 2007, 11:38

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Originally Posted by Salvation

Jacob's Ladder - Brilliant scrip let down by some poor acting. Unjust really

I don't recall any poor acting.

20th November 2007, 20:48	#3722 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	Frankenheimer's a strange one. He's made some classics such as Seconds, Manchunian Candidate and a couple of others that I haven't seen, but a whole host of tripe and all.

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Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	The Man with a Golden Arm. Is that any good, Hammer? Apparently Sinatra's excellent in it. (and I'll have to go through your list)

20th November 2007, 20:55	#3726 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	I'll stick it on my list then.

20th November 2007, 20:59	#3727 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	'Ace in the Hole'. I think The Simpsons parodied it.

21st November 2007, 01:48	#3728 (permalink)
UBERScholes I'd find it flattering if someone hard rubbed against me. Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,521	Ace in the Hole is a class film, can't remember if The Simpsons did it though

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reelworld Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: "I was never a great player" - Roy Keane, after being reminded that great players rarely make great managers. Posts: 5,140	I'll be seeing these movies next month in a movie festival: - Into The Wild - No Country for Old Men - Shake Hands with the Devil - The Year My Parents went on Vacation. - 4 Months, 3 Years, and 2 Days.

22nd November 2007, 13:14	#3732 (permalink)
noodlehair Giggsy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. Posts: 31,503	Fantastic 4 - The rise of the silver surfer Plot: Bloke who looks like a giant spoon digs loads of holes in the ground (possibly with his head) for no apparent reason, gets captured by the army, bloke named victor goes a bit mental, spoonface is released and saves the world...from himself. This could have been cool. Instead the incredibly cheesy characters, equally cheesy sub plot, and elastic man's incredibly punchable face, made it an effort to sit through. 4/10 - Better than Wayne Bridge, but not by much

22nd November 2007, 19:35	#3733 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	On the Waterfront was very good, jah! Brando was brilliant, then again he really was brilliant. I taught him everything he knew about acting.

22nd November 2007, 19:52	#3734 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	Is 'Angels with Dirty Faces' any good?

23rd November 2007, 08:31	#3740 (permalink)
M160RA Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,758	Pacino's a good actor, but I think he's one of those actors who always seems to get typecast into a similar kind of role ala Morgan Freeman.

23rd November 2007, 16:09	#3744 (permalink)
Salvation Damnation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fictional seduction on a black snow sky Posts: 5,983	Spooner, use some of our powers being in the panel an' all to automatically disqualify them movies from the list...them and the few other mentioned in the other thread

23rd November 2007, 21:04	#3745 (permalink)
olesmyhero has a lazy eye...japs eye Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 4000+ miles west of old trafford Posts: 11,338	The Devil Wears Prada. I was subjected to watching this yesterday with the missus and her mom. Anne Hathaway is quite doable.

24th November 2007, 11:27	#3747 (permalink)
Spoonatov El Presidente - Voted best poster 2007 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Number 17. (Laura's got a cellulite arse). RIP Jermaine Stewart. Posts: 26,958	He's like that in most of his post 90's films. I don't recall him ranting and raving in his heyday, but all he seems to do thesedays is shout on screen, which I must confess that I don;t mind, but it's not brilliant acting. De Niro's even more lamer, though. Made some awful films 90's onwards. That said, they've both made their mark, and will be regarded as two of the best actors, ever.

24th November 2007, 11:35	#3748 (permalink)
Salvation Damnation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fictional seduction on a black snow sky Posts: 5,983	Jacob's Ladder - Brilliant scrip let down by some poor acting. Unjust really

24th November 2007, 11:36	#3749 (permalink)
Salvation Damnation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fictional seduction on a black snow sky Posts: 5,983	Oh, Hammer Michael, I'll check out the other Sinatra movie as well, thanks.