Urgent Ps3 Help

Dolphgb · 13th May 2008, 13:53

This one is as good as any other, and a shade under a tenner - http://snipurl.com/hdmi_ps3a

RedDevil#26655 · 13th May 2008, 14:15

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Originally Posted by 1871_Biscuit

1) not really, ps3 controllers feel really light and cheap. Horrible feel to them. What is bad about the Xbox controllers.

2)PS3 online will never be as good, and if it ever is they will start to charge for it.

3) i watch dvd's all the time. Blu-ray is unnecessary in the video market in my opinion. Dvd's have high enough definition. How ever there is a place for Blu-ray, in the games market.

You honestly believe that? fucking hell.

and before you start I have a 360, not PS3 (although I wish I had a PS3)

1871_Biscuit · 13th May 2008, 14:48

Yes i do believe that. when have you ever watched a dvd, and gone " Fuck sake, the quality looks shit."

I did that all the time with VHS, and broadcasted TV.

WeasteDevil · 13th May 2008, 17:14

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Originally Posted by GazM

what so the one's on ebay at 25p are the same as the ones for £50-£60?

Most are the same for normal home use. The quality of the cable can help, as although HDMI transmits digital data, the cable itself is still a wire (not a fibre cable taking digital light pulses), and as such the signal is still analogue and needs to be carried and shielding from interference. This is no different to digital TV over the ether, the signal can still get noisy and interference introduced. The great thing about an analogue signal is that you just get a bit of "snow" noise in the picture, a digital picture with sufficient interference with stop it playing or being displayed full stop. I'm sure that you have all come across CDs and DVDs that get stuck, and a scrambled mess in your digital TV signals (may be a digital signal, but it's still carried modulated into an analogue wave) when the weather gets bad.

If the PS3 is close to the TV, unless you are an anal audio/videophile then any cheap cable should do.

WeasteDevil · 13th May 2008, 17:21

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Originally Posted by 1871_Biscuit

Yes i do believe that. when have you ever watched a dvd, and gone " Fuck sake, the quality looks shit."

I did that all the time with VHS, and broadcasted TV.

That was a difference between analogue and digital to be fair, so you are trying to compare apples and oranges. On a quality HDTV at optimal viewing distance for its size, yes, DVD quality does look bad in comparison. I suppose that you will not be buying a HDTV in this case, your 3mp camera is perfect for your needs, and your desktop is running in 800x600x4bpp. If that's good enough for you, good luck to you.

All of that is irrelevant in any case, as the film industry will slowly push what they see to be in their interests, and HD is just that, be it a download or on a BD. Consumers can jump and shout and create as much as they like saying that they will never adopt HD movies, but in the end you will be forced to, and you will see it starting with blockbuster titles released up to 3 months first on Blu-ray rather than DVD and the BD version having a lot of extra content. The end game of course is when they stop releasing certain films on DVD full stop, and that day will come.

RedDevil#26655 · 13th May 2008, 19:02

Weaste out of interest whats your job?

Slevin · 13th May 2008, 19:05

Weaste is a sensible dude.

His job: Posting on forums.

1871_Biscuit · 13th May 2008, 22:16

He's a software engineer in spain.

I have an HDTV, I just don't bother with blu-ray, as DVD is adequate for me. I've never watched a DVD and thought it looked shit, always looks crystal clear for me.

Don't get me wrong. There is a time and a place for Blu-ray. When the Film companies do eventually cater for Blu-ray, and phase out DVD's, then yes it is time to switch. Blu-rays will have to decrease in value for that to happen though.

However i do still feel the companies are selling you something that you just don't need.

GazM · 14th May 2008, 02:32

Weaste what degree did you do?

and who do you work for?

I'm doing a degree in Computer Science and I'm unsure of what to go into and how to do it?

GAngel · 14th May 2008, 02:55

It's a digital signal.....

As long as you get a signal, the picture quality of a $4 cable is the same as the $60 cable. You have to loose a lot of the signal strength before you get digital static, which shows up as small squares with old/random looking picture.

WeasteDevil · 14th May 2008, 08:34

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Originally Posted by GAngel

It's a digital signal.....

As long as you get a signal, the picture quality of a $4 cable is the same as the $60 cable. You have to loose a lot of the signal strength before you get digital static, which shows up as small squares with old/random looking picture.

You wont get squares in this case, as it's not a compressed signal, that happens with DVD/DTT because it's MPEG etc. Interference in that data will give you those types of problems when trying to decode it. Here we are talking about something akin to a raw bitstream. If we are talking about a raw bitstream, there is no error data sent to correct signal problems, so your argument is wrong. As an XBox lover, your HDMI cable (if you are actually using one) really will not matter, but with a PS3, because all signals are HDCP protected over HDMI, any type of interference can cause you to not get an image AT ALL!

Cheap cables, although looking like a HDMI cable may not actually conform to standards set by the HDMI Founders (which does not include Microsoft).

WeasteDevil · 14th May 2008, 08:36

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Originally Posted by GazM

Weaste what degree did you do?

and who do you work for?

I'm doing a degree in Computer Science and I'm unsure of what to go into and how to do it?

I have a HND in Software Engineering and a degree in Computer Science and Information Systems.

I'm currently doing freelance work in the field of Microsoft Dynamics.

GAngel · 14th May 2008, 14:09

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

You wont get squares in this case, as it's not a compressed signal, that happens with DVD/DTT because it's MPEG etc. Interference in that data will give you those types of problems when trying to decode it. Here we are talking about something akin to a raw bitstream. If we are talking about a raw bitstream, there is no error data sent to correct signal problems, so your argument is wrong. As an XBox lover, your HDMI cable (if you are actually using one) really will not matter, but with a PS3, because all signals are HDCP protected over HDMI, any type of interference can cause you to not get an image AT ALL!

Cheap cables, although looking like a HDMI cable may not actually conform to standards set by the HDMI Founders (which does not include Microsoft).

How am i an xbox lover if i have both systems but play neither? I've never bought or watched a blu ray or HD dvd on either although i have the hd player as well. I've yet to see ANY hdmi cable not display a good picture regardless of quality. The only thing you should worry about when buying one is that the ends don't break. Unless you're a videophile or have a 60"+ you're not going to see the marginal difference a better cable "may" give you.

I'm the avg joe i have a 50" sony 1080p and a 42" sony 1080p. one has a monster expensive cable the other has a little cheap 1/4 the cost cable both look exactly the same regardless of what system i plug into either tv. You can get as technical as you want but at the end of the day that's what matters to 99% of us.

You really need to get over your MS vs SONY chip on your shoulder nobody cares but you. And just to piss you off my xbox is WAYYY better than my ps3

WeasteDevil · 14th May 2008, 14:48

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Originally Posted by GAngel

You really need to get over your MS vs SONY chip on your shoulder nobody cares but you. And just to piss you off my xbox is WAYYY better than my ps3

You obviously cared enough to troll a thread about a HDMI cable.

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Originally Posted by GAngel

360 controller is way better any gamer will tell you that.
ps3 online = shit on a stick
how many people actually watch blu ray movies?

I've had both since launch. 360 still wins most every battle.

Why should this piss me off exactly? You don't have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about.

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I'm the avg joe i have a 50" sony 1080p and a 42" sony 1080p. one has a monster expensive cable the other has a little cheap 1/4 the cost cable both look exactly the same regardless of what system i plug into either tv. You can get as technical as you want but at the end of the day that's what matters to 99% of us.

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Most are the same for normal home use.

Learn to follow a thread and its topic.

WeasteDevil · 14th May 2008, 15:00

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Originally Posted by GAngel

I'm the avg joe i have a 50" sony 1080p and a 42" sony 1080p.

How long have you had that Sony 42" exactly? What model number is it? Because Sony do not make 42" LCDs anymore. I'm not sure if they have ever made a 42" FULL HD TV for Europe other than maybe a few XBR models.

I'm not doubting you, just interested, maybe you meant 52" and 40"?

esmufc07 · 14th May 2008, 15:05

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I'm the avg joe i have a 50" sony 1080p and a 42" sony 1080p.

This bit made me laugh. Average joe and having 2 TV's like that?

Yeah right.

101 · 14th May 2008, 15:20

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

This bit made me laugh. Average joe and having 2 TV's like that?

Yeah right.

I was thinking the exact same when I read that. I've still got a 28" CRT in the lounge! Got a better TV in my room though

GAngel · 14th May 2008, 15:22

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

How long have you had that Sony 42" exactly? What model number is it? Because Sony do not make 42" LCDs anymore. I'm not sure if they have ever made a 42" FULL HD TV for Europe other than maybe a few XBR models.

I'm not doubting you, just interested, maybe you meant 52" and 40"?

I live in North America

esmufc07 · 14th May 2008, 15:27

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Originally Posted by 101

I was thinking the exact same when I read that. I've still got a 28" CRT in the lounge! Got a better TV in my room though

Do I give a tiny rats ass?

1871_Biscuit · 14th May 2008, 15:30

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

How long have you had that Sony 42" exactly? What model number is it? Because Sony do not make 42" LCDs anymore. I'm not sure if they have ever made a 42" FULL HD TV for Europe other than maybe a few XBR models.

I'm not doubting you, just interested, maybe you meant 52" and 40"?

Don't worry about Weaste. He just likes to get pedantic and over technical to make for his small penis.

WeasteDevil · 14th May 2008, 15:32

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Originally Posted by 1871_Biscuit

Don't worry about Weaste. He just likes to get pedantic and over technical to make for his small penis.

Whatever its size, at least it has seen a hole more real than a stock stuffed bog roll.

1871_Biscuit · 14th May 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Whatever its size, at least it has seen a hole more real than a stock stuffed bog roll.

did i also mention he's humorous at times. At least you've now accepted the small nature of your package.

anyway back to HMDI cables......

GAngel · 14th May 2008, 16:00

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

This bit made me laugh. Average joe and having 2 TV's like that?

Yeah right.

Where i live that's about average. The price on lcd's and plasmas have come down drasticall over the last 12 months. I would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't have atleast a 37" 1080i tv. Which goes for as low as $499-699 usd.

I paid almost 50% less for my 50" 6 months ago than i did for the 42" 2 years ago.

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Dolphgb Youth Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 312	This one is as good as any other, and a shade under a tenner - http://snipurl.com/hdmi_ps3a

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1871_Biscuit Very simple Simon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tilehurst Occupation: rimaldo's bitch - A simple man named simon, wanted to bum uncooked chickens but couldn't find em,he asked his mate rimaldo, who said who said "hey i know!", "if i bend over you can destroy my ass hymen." Posts: 3,023	He's a software engineer in spain. I have an HDTV, I just don't bother with blu-ray, as DVD is adequate for me. I've never watched a DVD and thought it looked shit, always looks crystal clear for me. Don't get me wrong. There is a time and a place for Blu-ray. When the Film companies do eventually cater for Blu-ray, and phase out DVD's, then yes it is time to switch. Blu-rays will have to decrease in value for that to happen though. However i do still feel the companies are selling you something that you just don't need.

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GAngel Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,349	It's a digital signal..... As long as you get a signal, the picture quality of a $4 cable is the same as the $60 cable. You have to loose a lot of the signal strength before you get digital static, which shows up as small squares with old/random looking picture.